Microsoft's acquisition of Activison Blizzard

[nongkris]

I've posted about this derek person in another thread, cuz he just popped up within like the last week being a major source of Anti-Sony propaganda, on the level of bloomberg. Here's another tweet he did about an 'independent report by a third party' saying that PS Now was magically in the lead, and Xcloud was behind with less than $50 million revenue. Not only are these not CMA findings, or even findings from third party data, but an independent report from a third party like Nvidia that could be completely wrong bullshit to help MS.



and all of that still wouldn't help MS in an appeal because they still own the servers and OS that is essential for cloud gaming, so those concerns are still relevant.

 

[AshHunter216]

I've posted about this derek person in another thread, cuz he just popped up within like the last week being a major source of Anti-Sony propaganda, on the level of bloomberg. Here's another tweet he did about an 'independent report by a third party' saying that PS Now was magically in the lead, and Xcloud was behind with less than $50 million revenue. Not only are these not CMA findings, or even findings from third party data, but an independent report from a third party like Nvidia that could be completely wrong bullshit to help MS.



and all of that still wouldn't help MS in an appeal because they still own the servers and OS that is essential for cloud gaming, so those concerns are still relevant.

I think he writes for tweaktown, and they've been writing a lot of anti-Playstation articles lately.

 

[Nitro]

I've posted about this derek person in another thread, cuz he just popped up within like the last week being a major source of Anti-Sony propaganda, on the level of bloomberg. Here's another tweet he did about an 'independent report by a third party' saying that PS Now was magically in the lead, and Xcloud was behind with less than $50 million revenue. Not only are these not CMA findings, or even findings from third party data, but an independent report from a third party like Nvidia that could be completely wrong bullshit to help MS.



and all of that still wouldn't help MS in an appeal because they still own the servers and OS that is essential for cloud gaming, so those concerns are still relevant.

Please copy this to the False information, Clickbait Journalism & Popular Misconceptions thread. Let's document his deceit in one handy repository.

You're observations are bang on. Microsoft lobbyists have been circularizing that TweakTown tweet all day. The CMA are merely summarising information provided to them by industry respondents. After echoing Takashi Mochizuki's latest chicanery, Derek Strickland is now overstating the importance of a 2-year-old estimate referencing a service that no longer exists.

Why focus so intensely on that one summary when the CMA show convincingly that Microsoft today command a larger share of the cloud gaming market?

 

[MrRevocs1256]

Boosteroid is full of shit. Didn't MS hand out 10 year deals SPECIFICALLY with COD in mind?

 

[Cool hand luke]

Boosteroid is full of shit. Didn't MS hand out 10 year deals SPECIFICALLY with COD in mind?

There's no evidence of Boosteroid ever being a Ukrainian company. Sneaky fucks changed their HQ location from Romania

 

[AshHunter216]

Boosteroid is full of shit. Didn't MS hand out 10 year deals SPECIFICALLY with COD in mind?

I think the CMA would have access to more documents than Boosteroid would. MS must have offered them a lot of "perks" beyond just the 10 year deal to defend them like this.

 

[laynelane]

There's no evidence of Boosteroid ever being a Ukrainian company. Sneaky fucks changed their HQ location from Romania

Yep, that alone tells us what angle they're coming from. Just another sleazy company supporting an even worse one.

 

[KiryuRealty]

Boosteroid is full of shit. Didn't MS hand out 10 year deals SPECIFICALLY with COD in mind?

Activision has, by policy, not put anything on subscription library services, and Kotick has said they won't as long as he is in charge, so Boosteroid is not outright lying, but they are using the truth in a slanted way.

 

[BigMclargeHuge]

That sloth guy is just another Xbox Twitter shill.

 

[Vertigo]

Boosteroid is a fraud company. Of course they want a call of duty deal and cloud deal. Why wouldn’t a company with zero users want blockbuster products? Might as well shill for the most obvious scam. All those deals were laughable. From boosteroid to thinking switch CoD games wouldn’t be gimped to unplayability.

 

[Nhomnhom]

Activision has, by policy, not put anything on subscription library services, and Kotick has said they won't as long as he is in charge, so Boosteroid is not outright lying, but they are using the truth in a slanted way.

Did all Activison games on PS+ came with Essentials? Interesting if true.

 

[Gods&Monsters]

Did all Activison games on PS+ came with Essentials? Interesting if true.

I was actually playing the Crash Trilogy from PS+ yesterday. We also got many CODs, Crash 4 and Tony Hawk on PS+. The biggest Indie Humble Monthly bundle ever was an Activision bundle with Crash, Spyro and COD.

They never supported Game Pass tho so that's why people are saying they are against subscriptions.

 

[Swift_Star]

I was actually playing the Crash Trilogy from PS+ yesterday. We also got many CODs, Crash 4 and Tony Hawk on PS+. The biggest Indie Humble Monthly bundle ever was an Activision bundle with Crash, Spyro and COD.

They never supported Game Pass tho so that's why people are saying they are against subscriptions.

I wish the Crash Trilogy got a 60fps patch

 

[Gods&Monsters]

I wish the Crash Trilogy got a 60fps patch

And an easy mode. It's so fucking hard I don't have the patience for these games anymore. I deleted it from my HD.

 

[KiryuRealty]

I was actually playing the Crash Trilogy from PS+ yesterday. We also got many CODs, Crash 4 and Tony Hawk on PS+. The biggest Indie Humble Monthly bundle ever was an Activision bundle with Crash, Spyro and COD.

They never supported Game Pass tho so that's why people are saying they are against subscriptions.

There’s a difference between a time-limited giveaway that pays the publisher per download and a constant availability for a year or more that pays the publisher a flat fee, regardless of downloads.

Activision does the first because it makes them good money. They don’t do the second because it doesn’t pay as much as they want.

 

[Bryank75]

These people do not have a clue....

They don't understand the difference between fixed cost and variable cost.

Producing consoles is a variable cost and costs more, the more you produce.

Fixed cost is something like an airline, that is making the voyage anyway, so once you sell so many tickets after a certain point it is all profit.

Cloud is more like the second option, the infrastructure is paid for the energy costs have to be paid anyway, so it is all fixed cost, Xbox is a part of Microsoft, not a subsidiary.... so basically there is no cost to Microsoft for providing cloud services to Xbox.

But for an outside entity, they MUST pay through the nose to use Amazon cloud services or Azure or Google cloud.

Microsoft uses many accounting tricks by having Xbox remain as part of Microsoft.... they have a marketing division for the whole company that spends 20 billion a year on marketing... does this include paying the full price of every subscription using a promotion? We dont know because there is ZERO transparency.
Xbox profit doesn't take into account how much they spent on marketing, while PlayStation certainly does.....


Which makes Xbox numbers far less meaningful.

 

[Swift_Star]

The Acquisition talks is so tiresome at this point. There's nothing to argue about anymore. The deal is done and, even if MS appeal, they'll lose time and money, which are essential if they want to make Xbox successful in some way. I hope they drop this altogether and we can, finally, move on and forget this has ever happened.

 

[nongkris]

The Acquisition talks is so tiresome at this point. There's nothing to argue about anymore. The deal is done and, even if MS appeal, they'll lose time and money, which are essential if they want to make Xbox successful in some way. I hope they drop this altogether and we can, finally, move on and forget this have ever happened.

Yep, all the good salt happened the day of the block, everything now is just copium of delusional xbots thinking they still have a chance.

 

[AshHunter216]

The Acquisition talks is so tiresome at this point. There's nothing to argue about anymore. The deal is done and, even if MS appeal, they'll lose time and money, which are essential if they want to make Xbox successful in some way. I hope they drop this altogether and we can, finally, move on and forget this has ever happened.

I think MS feel like this acquisition and getting approval to make more is their last chance at becoming the Playstation-killing juggernaut that they and their most extreme fans think they deserve to be. Phil claims it isn't a key part of their strategy, but I think he's not being honest. This may be why they still plan to fight this despite being in the same position Nvidia were in before they abandoned their merger with ARM.

If I'm not mistaken, Nvidia got their merger blocked by the CMA and were opposed by the FTC and abandoned the deal before the EU gave their ruling, though it seemed like the EU were going to be OK with it.

Edit: Looks like they gave up as soon as the FTC sued to block.

 

[Cool hand luke]

But we haven't seen Reee or Installbase tear at each other's throats yet. They're still far too arrogant in their stanning for Xbox, and I think a protracted humiliation wherein Xbox appeals, is shut down, has the deal blocked by the EC, SAMR, and all their dirty laundry is aired in front of the FTC is the best outcome.