Nexus Mods deletes anti-Pride mod for Spider-Man, encourages angry users to delete their accounts

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No, we reached "people should be allowed to" when you commented. What do you expect?

Nexusmods is not the authority on mods. There are other sites/tools/etc.

Your attitude basically says "well since NexusMods decided to create a mod hosting site, they have to host all user submitted mods."

Like what? They aren't allowed whatsoever to make rules? That's fucking ridiculous.

Hey, guess what.. "people should be allowed to" make a web site and determine the content on it.
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No, we reached "people should be allowed to" when you commented. What do you expect?

Nexusmods is not the authority on mods. There are other sites/tools/etc.

Awesome I hope those other places are a little less neurotic about what people choose to do with their own games. It's absurd to care about what someone else does in their own copy of a game that doesn't impact anyone else's copy.
 

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But the private site Nexus care… and they are in their own rights.
They don’t allow hateful speech mods.

Absolute heroes, who knows how many lives will be saved by forcing a small number of people to keep a texture
 
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Awesome I hope those other places are a little less neurotic about what people choose to do with their own games. It's absurd to care about what someone else does in their own copy of a game that doesn't impact anyone else's copy.
So why you have to upload it to Nexus if you are just changing your own game?
 

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So why you have to upload it to Nexus if you are just changing your own game?

For other people who want the same feature. It's opt in bro it's not impacting anyone who doesn't want it.
 

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So why you uploaded it with hateful speech targeting determined set of users?

I'm assuming you are trying to ask why would you upload something that is hateful towards a certain group

a) again, for other people who want the same features, it is not meant to be used by allies of the LGBTQ+ army, quite obviously

b) disagreeing with an agenda and not wanting to see media relating to is does not necessarily mean I "hate" the proponents of it
 

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Awesome I hope those other places are a little less neurotic about what people choose to do with their own games. It's absurd to care about what someone else does in their own copy of a game that doesn't impact anyone else's copy.
They care about what is hosted on THE WEB SITE THEY OWN.

Like I don't get why you can't see that.

Like if Disney created a mod tool/site for a Mickey Mouse game.. would you have the same attitude if someone uploaded a mode that made every character have a nazi uniform? Or would you think "Yeah I get why Disney doesn't want that associated with their brand"?
 

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They care about what is hosted on THE WEB SITE THEY OWN.

Like I don't get why you can't see that.

I acknowledged this already and said I hope the other options people have for mod sharing are not as politically motivated with regards to micromanaging other people's experiences
 

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I am not anti gay or anytthing. I actually DO NOT CARE.
I am just anti blm or pride or whatever idiotic social movement is happening. Putting everything in a movement is crazy.
Do whatever the fuck you want and shut up. Why is it so important for you to let everyone know you are gay?! how does it matter.
By making it a thing, you make it a thing.
 

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Have you guys ever been to a major city?

People have pride flags on their apartments, businesses (often owned by LGBT folks), etc.

It's literally just realism to have pride flags in a game lol
 

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We are not concerned with people's personal opinions about sex, race, religion, etc.. Leave that out of these forums.
Yeah gay shit is everywhere now I miss the 90's
 
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Have you guys ever been to a major city?

People have pride flags on their apartments, businesses (often owned by LGBT folks), etc.

It's literally just realism to have pride flags in a game lol
Lol not in Poland. but it's not about that.
Freedom of expression is perfectly fine. But shoving it in my face until I somehow notice is another.
They behave like they want to be noticed and accepted. You are. Just shut about about it already.
And I suspect most of pride warriors are not actually gay but just woke knights.
I know few gay people and they are normal, not in your face people. You wouldn't see them taking part in any of this craziness.

edit: And it just attached itself to politics way too much. This should not be a political thing. And I don't want politics in games.
Are the flags very in your face in spider man? I've not played it yet
 
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Yeah gay shit is everywhere now I miss the 90's

It's literally only a couple of little flags in a big video game, and you directly jump towards propaganda accusations and calling it "gay shit".

Who has the agenda here again?

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Any pushing of an agenda can be considered propaganda

The very fact that people have a problem with others opting out of this shows you it is an important agenda for many, it should not have made news that some people want to remove assets from their copy of a game

If I want to remove this with third party tools that don't impact anybody else's experience, I should be allowed to

Well like it was already said, at the end of the day these works are the creations of their creators. It's their choice as to what goes into their games and the idea of making a mod to remove something they created to put in their own work, that removal having a clear political motivation, can be seen as a statement or "agenda" on behalf of the one making the mod, so the argument of any side pushing propaganda, goes both ways.

So ultimately which one you are partial to just shows which one you support, but by your logic, you are still supporting an agenda or "propaganda", just the one you prefer. But since this is ultimately a game creating by specific people, those specific people have the right to enforce their viewpoints with their works. Paying for the right to play a game is not the same as suddenly having the right to subvert the intended purpose, messages etc. of someone else's work in the name of voicing your own opinion.

To put it another way, a person purchasing a game does not suddenly own the right to alter that work, sample it. etc., at least not without the original creator's approval. Which this modder obviously did not have, so their attempt was shut down. They are still able to play their copy of the game, they can even be cheeky and implement those mods in their copy of the game if they want, or privately share them with others to do the same. That's what their purchase of that copy of the game effectively allows them to do. But the moment they try to use a public platform to host a mod that not only alters the original vision (by simply being a mod in the first place), but ALSO does so in opposition to a message the original creator clearly stands behind, then they kind of get what's coming to them :/

Yeah gay shit is everywhere now I miss the 90's

Wat? There was 'gay shit' in the '90s too. Quite a bit of it. It just wasn't as mainstream.

I acknowledged this already and said I hope the other options people have for mod sharing are not as politically motivated with regards to micromanaging other people's experiences

The irony here being the mod itself is politically motivated so by this logic, you are effectively saying the mod should not exist because if you desire for other avenues that would not remove the mod, that can be inferred as a way of saying either the places banning the mod should not ban them, or those places shouldn't exist because they ban them.
 
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I'm assuming you are trying to ask why would you upload something that is hateful towards a certain group

a) again, for other people who want the same features, it is not meant to be used by allies of the LGBTQ+ army, quite obviously

b) disagreeing with an agenda and not wanting to see media relating to is does not necessarily mean I "hate" the proponents of it
So why you uploaded it targeting the por LGBTQ+ or whatever instead of people that have your own mind?

The mod was obvious uploaded to made LGBTQ+ mad… it was the target of the mod in the description and hateful speech.

Not people that don’t want the flags in the game.

Nexus removed it and banned the user not because the mod replaces the flags… but because the mod targets the LGBTQ+ community removing the flags and putting words aimed to make them mad.
 
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