PCMR in all their glory already laughing "Playstation games doesnt have drm lol it can be crack within 3 hours after release" und niktek latest short

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you posted this for @Nhomnhom didn't you

but honestly, paying for the game on steam is just more convenient. these dipshits jumping through all the hoops to pirate these games probably never would've bought them if they hadn't been crackable
 
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you posted this for @Nhomnhom didn't you

but honestly, paying for the game on steam is just more convenient. these dipshits jumping through all the hoops to pirate these games probably never would've bought them if they hadn't been crackable
Yeah I've not pirated a single game since 2011-12 .... You know... when I started working :p
 
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I kinda just don't care anymore. SIE created this situation and at least when Xbox was going through this mess, Phil Spencer whispered sweet little lies to the Xbox diehards to string them along before gently ripping the band-aid off.

SIE don't even care enough to do that much; seems they'd rather cower away and let increasingly divisive parts of the fanbase squabble online to maintain the optics of "all as usual" through obfuscation strengthened by an eerie silence.

And that's what is really messing things up now: the optics. I am not against them bringing many GAAS titles to PC, mobile, or even other consoles. I am not against them bringing some AAA and AA games to PC & mobile. I'm not even inherently against them using other consoles for a few remasters & collections of legacy games. What I am against are the optics where their "showing" seems to be prioritizing PC rather than their own console when it comes to what matters most: 1P support. And IMO, being incredibly stingy with discussing roadmaps of 1P.

The optics of them having certain 3P exclusives basically kneecapping sales on console by mentioning other versions even before the console one's launched (FF XVI & Rebirth), then wondering why sales might be underperforming and then letting these narratives of "exclusivity is bad!" take hold with no control over that narrative or rebuffing it. The optics of them having ported all but a handful of current-gen 1P titles to PC or other consoles even before the Pro has released, and one of their very few actual exclusives left for console being Destruction All-Stars, a literally dead game.

The optics that somehow SIE, the one part of Sony bringing in the most money and the most successful overall in terms of market performance, branding etc. is the one made out like it's the least responsible and has to "tighten the belt", meanwhile Sony Pictures, which has wasted tons of money, might be spearheading a $10 billion joint acquisition of Paramount? There are other things as well, but I just wanted to fire off a few real quick.

So I'm not even fussed with PC dudes acting like this, because SIE invited it. If they want to set the record straight as to their direction going forward, they can easily do so. Whatever that direction actually is. I'd obviously prefer one over the other because I wrote a giant thread about it (though since then, I'd maybe replace priority of a PSVR3 generation with a handheld/portable "mini-PS6" or whatever, as one example), but either way I'd just have more respect if the band-aid were ripped off and whatever direction things are going forward were communicated plainly.

At least then I'd feel my time is being respected.
 

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you posted this for @Nhomnhom didn't you
I don't care enough to fake it, but I knew this is the treatment Sony single player games would get on PC. This is not a revelation to me, any place where PC players can speak openly they'll quickly convert into talking about piracy and hating on PlayStation.

The average PC player will pirate a PlayStation game release full priced on PC and will think they are justified to do so because it's evil Sony doing it (they always find an excuse to pirate this types of games).

Contrary to what you are suggesting there are no hoops to jump, all these game are one click away and are far more accessible than your average emulator(that many PC player will list as one of the benefits of PC). What Sony is doing is completely insane, they are going out of their way to expose their games to piracy in exchange for a %70 cut of pitiful sales.
 
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I kinda just don't care anymore. SIE created this situation and at least when Xbox was going through this mess, Phil Spencer whispered sweet little lies to the Xbox diehards to string them along before gently ripping the band-aid off.

SIE don't even care enough to do that much; seems they'd rather cower away and let increasingly divisive parts of the fanbase squabble online to maintain the optics of "all as usual" through obfuscation strengthened by an eerie silence.

And that's what is really messing things up now: the optics. I am not against them bringing many GAAS titles to PC, mobile, or even other consoles. I am not against them bringing some AAA and AA games to PC & mobile. I'm not even inherently against them using other consoles for a few remasters & collections of legacy games. What I am against are the optics where their "showing" seems to be prioritizing PC rather than their own console when it comes to what matters most: 1P support. And IMO, being incredibly stingy with discussing roadmaps of 1P.

The optics of them having certain 3P exclusives basically kneecapping sales on console by mentioning other versions even before the console one's launched (FF XVI & Rebirth), then wondering why sales might be underperforming and then letting these narratives of "exclusivity is bad!" take hold with no control over that narrative or rebuffing it. The optics of them having ported all but a handful of current-gen 1P titles to PC or other consoles even before the Pro has released, and one of their very few actual exclusives left for console being Destruction All-Stars, a literally dead game.

The optics that somehow SIE, the one part of Sony bringing in the most money and the most successful overall in terms of market performance, branding etc. is the one made out like it's the least responsible and has to "tighten the belt", meanwhile Sony Pictures, which has wasted tons of money, might be spearheading a $10 billion joint acquisition of Paramount? There are other things as well, but I just wanted to fire off a few real quick.

So I'm not even fussed with PC dudes acting like this, because SIE invited it. If they want to set the record straight as to their direction going forward, they can easily do so. Whatever that direction actually is. I'd obviously prefer one over the other because I wrote a giant thread about it (though since then, I'd maybe replace priority of a PSVR3 generation with a handheld/portable "mini-PS6" or whatever, as one example), but either way I'd just have more respect if the band-aid were ripped off and whatever direction things are going forward were communicated plainly.

At least then I'd feel my time is being respected.
The optics are all in your head and in terminally online discourse. It's shaped by Xbot refugees on PC.

The cold, harsh reality is that PC is a dying platform. AAA software doesn't sell. It can save no one. Consoles are the lifeblood of AAA and with Xbox gone, that leaves only PlayStation.
 
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The optics are all in your head and in terminally online discourse. It's shaped by Xbot refugees on PC.

The cold, harsh reality is that PC is a dying platform. AAA software doesn't sell. It can save no one. Consoles are the lifeblood of AAA and with Xbox gone, that leaves only PlayStation.
and nintendo!
You think really pc is a dying platform? The only hint of that I noticed (besides me personally loosing all interest in pc gaming) is how little peripherals like cases, mice and keyboards get released. Like.... logitech releases 1 gaming mouse every year or two. It used to be 2 a month lol
 

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and nintendo!
You think really pc is a dying platform? The only hint of that I noticed (besides me personally loosing all interest in pc gaming) is how little peripherals like cases, mice and keyboards get released. Like.... logitech releases 1 gaming mouse every year or two. It used to be 2 a month lol
The other 'hint' is the cratering sales. 2023 was a bellwether year for demonstrating consoles' continuing hegemony and PC's precipitous decline.
 
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That's how salty some people are about their console 'exclusive' coming to PC, lol.
Salty or not, it's a bad business decision in a long term and we will suffer for it with less good games in the future
 

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Of course not, because they started adapting for PC development, as can be clearly seen at the decreased quality of their first party games.
No PS4 games were either, for that matter. Neither are Switch games. Programming games in ASM doesn't happen a whole lot these days. Stay committed to that bit, though.
 

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No PS4 games were either, for that matter. Neither are Switch games. Programming games in ASM doesn't happen a whole lot these days. Stay committed to that bit, though.
Yeah of course ASM is not what was meant with "to the metal" (although it's the correct definition of it).
 

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Salty or not, it's a bad business decision in a long term and we will suffer for it with less good games in the future

We aren't running Sony and clearly they don't give a shit about us ps5 owners, i don't care what they do anymore.

I'll just play the games on PC from now on, might as well enjoy mods and extra features
 
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I kinda just don't care anymore. SIE created this situation and at least when Xbox was going through this mess, Phil Spencer whispered sweet little lies to the Xbox diehards to string them along before gently ripping the band-aid off.

SIE don't even care enough to do that much; seems they'd rather cower away and let increasingly divisive parts of the fanbase squabble online to maintain the optics of "all as usual" through obfuscation strengthened by an eerie silence.

And that's what is really messing things up now: the optics. I am not against them bringing many GAAS titles to PC, mobile, or even other consoles. I am not against them bringing some AAA and AA games to PC & mobile. I'm not even inherently against them using other consoles for a few remasters & collections of legacy games. What I am against are the optics where their "showing" seems to be prioritizing PC rather than their own console when it comes to what matters most: 1P support. And IMO, being incredibly stingy with discussing roadmaps of 1P.

The optics of them having certain 3P exclusives basically kneecapping sales on console by mentioning other versions even before the console one's launched (FF XVI & Rebirth), then wondering why sales might be underperforming and then letting these narratives of "exclusivity is bad!" take hold with no control over that narrative or rebuffing it. The optics of them having ported all but a handful of current-gen 1P titles to PC or other consoles even before the Pro has released, and one of their very few actual exclusives left for console being Destruction All-Stars, a literally dead game.

The optics that somehow SIE, the one part of Sony bringing in the most money and the most successful overall in terms of market performance, branding etc. is the one made out like it's the least responsible and has to "tighten the belt", meanwhile Sony Pictures, which has wasted tons of money, might be spearheading a $10 billion joint acquisition of Paramount? There are other things as well, but I just wanted to fire off a few real quick.

So I'm not even fussed with PC dudes acting like this, because SIE invited it. If they want to set the record straight as to their direction going forward, they can easily do so. Whatever that direction actually is. I'd obviously prefer one over the other because I wrote a giant thread about it (though since then, I'd maybe replace priority of a PSVR3 generation with a handheld/portable "mini-PS6" or whatever, as one example), but either way I'd just have more respect if the band-aid were ripped off and whatever direction things are going forward were communicated plainly.

At least then I'd feel my time is being respected.

One of the best posts on the forum is sadly ignored by console fanboys who have their heads in the sand. This console tribalism from users here is getting really old, you would think people here are Sony shareholders or something.

We really do need to be calling Sony out for their Silence, where is the communication with fans? Halfway through the generation and halfway through 2024 and we still don't know about any playstation studio games. (Annoyingly we will have people here pretending 2nd parties count as playstation studios).

Sony have burnt a lot of bridges wirh this deafening silence, it's also insulting how much attention PC ports of old games are getting.

And lastly, where is the Showcase Sony?
 
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(Annoyingly we will have people here pretending 2nd parties count as playstation studios).

You forget the ones counting the PC ports, but say they have dedicated studios for the ports when it fits their argument.
 
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