PS Plus Essential Games (August 2022) - Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 1 + 2 (PS5 / PS4), Yakuza: Like a Dragon (PS5 / PS4), Little Nightmares (PS4)

[Heisenberg007]

Percentage points are generally used in a measure of increase over time, this is a linear pie percentage breakdown, and the total percentages don't even add up meaning multiple users in their 1000 survey-ers talked about using more than one service at the same time.

Oh and where's NS Online ? Wasn't that supposed to be higher than Game Pass ?

Bro, you don't understand Math. Let it go. Just take the L.

Worldwide NSO is higher than GP, not in the US though. NSO takes lead by being ahead in EU and JP where Xbox struggles. Or is that too much to comprehend?

 

[PropellerEar]

Haven't you heard, according to the logic shown by some users here, literally every PC and online enabled device should be counted

That's what Phil Spencer is saying, genius.

 

[adamsapple]

That's what Phil Spencer is saying, genius.

What is it with you guys and the need to just make stuff up ?

Are all modern Sony fans like this, or just the ones on this forum ?

He's quite literally said the exact opposite of that.

Phil Spencer says he ‘doesn’t envision’ a time when every Xbox user subscribes to Game Pass | VGC

Microsoft’s head of gaming insists Game Pass isn’t Xbox’s ‘sole focus’ going forwards…

www.videogameschronicle.com

 

[PropellerEar]

What is it with you guys and the need to just make stuff up

You're the dishonest liar, like proven many times earlier.

Microsoft’s Phil Spencer lays out a 20-year vision for games

Phil Spencer, CEO of games at Microsoft, said in a video the Xbox team is envisioning a different world of gaming over the next 20 years.

venturebeat.com

“We’re building a platform that can reach billions of players — whether it’s on console, whether it’s on PC, whether it’s through Xbox cloud streaming — where players on any device they want to play on should be able to find the content they want to play,” Spencer said.

 

[adamsapple]

Building a platform = / = expecting or assuming every one to be subscribed to game pass.

This is like a strawman clutching on further straws kind of an argument here.

I swear you guys are too fucking much sometimes, no wonder y'all get banned in most places

 

[PropellerEar]

...

 

[adamsapple]

 

[nominedomine]

Building a platform = / = expecting or assuming every one to be subscribed to game pass.

This is like a strawman clutching on further straws kind of an argument here.

I swear you guys are too fucking much sometimes, no wonder y'all get banned in most places

Yet here you are.

The other place is so boring, a bunch of people walking on eggshells. You can't even dunk on Xbox whiteout getting banned, a place filled with passive aggressive back handed comments from people that subscribe to the forum to increase their chances of not being banned.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Haven't you heard, according to the logic shown by some users here, literally every PC and online enabled device should be counted as a lost game pass sale ?

This is from the geniuses at work here:




Outstanding logic, will logicalize again

How are they counting 3 billion gamers then?

Xbox Wants To Bring Their Services to 3 Billion Players, With or Without Consoles

Microsoft has many big plans for Xbox, and one of those involves bringing their games to any gamer with or without an Xbox console.

www.techtimes.com

 

[PropellerEar]

He's quite literally said the exact opposite of that.

Phil Spencer says he ‘doesn’t envision’ a time when every Xbox user subscribes to Game Pass | VGC

Microsoft’s head of gaming insists Game Pass isn’t Xbox’s ‘sole focus’ going forwards…

www.videogameschronicle.com

Clearly you didn't even read what was there, or you lack understanding of what it means.

What he envisions or wishes about how many gamers will choose GP is not opposing anything.

 

[adamsapple]

Yet here you are.

The other place is so boring, a bunch of people walking on eggshells. You can't even dunk on Xbox whiteout getting banned, a place filled with passive aggressive back handed comments from people that subscribe to the forum to increase their chances of not being banned.

I plan to be here as long as we all have fun discussions and don't take things too seriously or start slinging personal insults at each other

How are they counting 3 billion gamers then?

Xbox Wants To Bring Their Services to 3 Billion Players, With or Without Consoles

Microsoft has many big plans for Xbox, and one of those involves bringing their games to any gamer with or without an Xbox console.

www.techtimes.com

You're already late, the same Phil Spencer quote source has been used above and still just as irrelevant.

Building a platform = / = targeting every user on the platform to subscribe to the service. Especially when Phil has directly said he doesn't expect every Xbox owner to be subbed to GP In the first place.

Next ?

Clearly you didn't even read what was there, or you lack understanding of what it means.

What he envisions or wishes about how many gamers will choose GP is not opposing anything.

What he envisions about people choosing is also not an indicative of attach rates just because PC and cloud enabled devices exist in the world.

But clearly you don't have any issues with that kind of logic leaps

 

[nominedomine]

I plan to be here as long as we all have fun discussions and don't take things too seriously or start slinging personal insults at each other

I just hope that one day you'll find the courage to tell us how you really feel instead of hiding behind a parody account.

 

[adamsapple]

I just hope that one day you'll find the courage to tell us how you really feel instead of hiding behind a parody account.

Only if you behave.

 

[PropellerEar]

What he envisions about people choosing is also not an indicative of attach rates just because PC and cloud enabled devices exist in the world.

This is exactly what I wrote, thank you that you agree, that what you posted, didn't oppose or prove any point you tried to make.

 

[Heisenberg007]

You're already late, the same Phil Spencer quote source has been used above and still just as irrelevant.

Building a platform = / = targeting every user on the platform to subscribe to the service. Especially when Phil has directly said he doesn't expect every Xbox owner to be subbed to GP In the first place.

Next ?

How do you build a platform and expand your customer base without targeting the users on a platform?

 

[Swift_Star]

You're the dishonest liar, like proven many times earlier.

Microsoft’s Phil Spencer lays out a 20-year vision for games

Phil Spencer, CEO of games at Microsoft, said in a video the Xbox team is envisioning a different world of gaming over the next 20 years.

venturebeat.com

Lol adams in shambles again. Destroyed by his overlord Phil himself.

 

[PropellerEar]

How do you build a platform and expand your customer base without targeting the users on a platform?

> Makes an inane shittake, projects it hard.
"Strawman dude" laughing gif.

Classic @adamsapple

 

[Swift_Star]

Building a platform = / = expecting or assuming every one to be subscribed to game pass.

Thank you for clarifying for us that the install base argument makes no sense, hence making all of Bernd points useless.

 

[Swift_Star]

> Makes an inane shittake, projects it hard.
"Strawman dude" laughing gif.

Classic @adamsapple

Not only that, he disproved his bud Bernd points.
Either the install base matters or not and either way, Xbox loses.

 

[adamsapple]

How do you build a platform and expand your customer base without targeting the users on a platform?

By managing expectations and not counting every person who has a PC as an attach rate figure.

Since you guys love to quote Phil so much:

“Do I want, or do I envision, everybody who’s on Xbox being a Game Pass subscriber? I don’t. “I want people to make their choice. Some people want to buy all the games we ship and create their own library.”

So much for Phil aggressively seeking every single grandma who owns a PC to subscribe to game pass. But I still find it funny that we're still counting PCs as potential loss in one services attach rate and not in the other.

Strawmen the lot of you

Thank you for clarifying for us that the install base argument makes no sense, hence making all of Bernd points useless.

No problem, but he wasn't the one bringing up hypothetical attach rates counting every physical device on the planet tho.

Like @PropellerEar , seems like you're also ok letting that pass by.

It seems like there's no place for good faith arguments here

> Makes an inane shittake, projects it hard.
"Strawman dude" laughing gif.

Classic @Heisenberg007

Lemme fix that for you real quick.