Reuters: Sony in talks to buy media powerhouse behind 'Elden Ring', sources say

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So he was involved in the purchasing of a minority stake in FromSoftware 2 years ago, but we're going to pretend like he had nothing to do with this?

It's not a maybe. He's involved if not the driving force behind this.
Hermen Hulst is -and was- in charge of the SIE first (which includes) party games, which means he's also in charge of the related acquisitions and investments, in addition to the SIE CEO.

Now he's also SIE CEO, so he's even more in charge of this. He's the one with the final word for doing things like to shut down Concord and Firewalk and buy Kadokawa (FromSoft + other dev teams).

In this case, since Kadokawa also has non-gaming stuff, there must be the Sony Group CEO/president involved too, in addition to whoever is in charge of their anime stuff.
 

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Sounds like some people on this forum.
“Sony shouldnt buy another studio, look at Concord.” lol
I never said Sony should not buy them, I only said Playstation should not be given control of them. Sony Music Japan will be better stewards of both the anime IP and from software. Getting SIE of America and Europe involved will only ruin a good thing, Playstation can keep buying all the western studios they want I am all for it as the idiots will be consolidated into one space and can be easily avoided
 

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Spoiler: He doesn't hate Japan. He closed Japan Studio down because they were nonperformative.
He didn't close Japan Studio. He restructured it and gave its two part bigger offices to grow while continue doing the same they were already doing.

Who do you think that is behind Death Stranding Director's Cut, Astro Bot, Stellar Blade, Rise of the Ronin, Death Stranding 2 or Physint?
 
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"Sony declined to comment. Kadokawa said it cannot comment." means THIS IS HAPPENING.

If not they'd say it's bullshit. It would be a great announcement for the PS 30th anniversary since both Kadokawa in their side and FromSoft in their side have both dozens of PS exclusives since back the PS1 times, for most PS devices.

Beyond gaming, this would also help Sony in the anime/manga IPs and production side.
Also, the Kadokawa shares jumped big. Which is a sign that investors are on board.
 
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A game of the year nomination every year for a decade, and the always-online mob can only think about Concord.
Concord will always be the main character! It's the online mob crown achievement because they finally mobilized and instantly killed a game. The name is nothing but a dog whistle term for them now...
 
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Why? They will be on PC day and date. And if they complain enough no PSN requirement either.
Y'all can't even get Bloodborne or Demon Souls on PC and you think these games will be their day one.

Sony ain't ever dropping the PSN requirement either. With that said hope this is threw so I can all the hit dogs hollering 😁
 
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Sony trying to own world class Japanese devs and anime IP instead of shitty blue haired libtards of US of A, highly doubt it. If they pull this off please let Sony music Japan have the control over kadokawa if playstation is given control the whole thing will get ruined in 2 yrs max.

Never give playstation control over good studios they will find a way to concord it. There is a reason the Fate IP is popular and brings in boatload of cash - no playstation involved
This is how i feel. Prior to this gen i wouldve been ok with it but with sonys obsession with DEI i have no interest in them buying anyone now. Even MS of all companies dropped their DEI Department.
 

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Concord definitely needs to be dragged thru the mud.

It’s the defining example of failure in western game’s media after a series of trash like it that was desperately forced down our throats.

Costly. Cringe. Overconfident. It’s when grift goes too far. Woke is dead. It doesn’t make money. Hundreds of millions for 12 days on the market and maybe 1k players.

Meanwhile Helldivers, Palworld and Wukong show everyone to put their money elsewhere.

Like wtf even succeeded this year made by the west? Warhammer and a Destiny expansion?
 

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@Yurinka Told you they weren't going to wait.
The news is that they are (supposed to be) in talks. If talks succed and end agreeing the acquisition then pretty likely there would be a long period of paperworks and approvals from regulators.

And if things go well, the acquisition would be closed maybe in a year from now or even more. More or less when they expect to sell 80% of their banks stuff to spend that money mostly on entertainment acquisitions and investments.

So it would be in line with what Sony said a while ago: that basically regarding acquisitions they were going to have a low profile in the short term and would resume them in the mid-to-long term (which aligned more or less with 2026 and beyond or maybe late 2025 and beyond being optimistic).

Regarding the budget, it is for acquisitions+investments+buy back Sony stocks for the whole Sony during 3 years. That isn't enough to buy Kadokawa. But well, Sony can always review the budget to increase it if they consider it, to pay with Sony stocks, to take money from somewhere else (like the one from selling their banks stuff) or even to get debt if it would be the case. Even if doesn't fit there, if Sony and Kadokawa are interested, they'll acquire them because the budget is flexible and Sony can afford this.

Will From Software games be only on PlayStation? No? Then who gives a fuck?
Kadokawa is a pretty huge corporation with many different arms and subsidiaries who work in different business areas and gaming is only one of them.

I'd restructure and split Kadokawa's arms into different companies and would give them to the related Sony arms: Kadokawa Games for SIE, Kadokawa Music for Sony Music, Kadokawa Pictures (movies, tv shows, anime...) for Sony Pictures. And would create Sony Books to put there Kadokawa's books, magazines and mangas plus related stuff they may acquire in the future.

I'd also restructure Sony to send all their gaming companies to SIE, all their music stuff to Sony Music, all their movie/tv/animation/anime stuff to Sony Pictures. And would make all their games 100% PS console exclusive (with late PC ports for non-GaaS games).

But I assume all of this would be a giant pain in the ass for them, specially for squareminded Japanese people and would butthurt many executives. So I think they'll do something more simple: the Bungie/Bethesda/ABK approach.

I think that if Sony acquires them pretty likely they'll keep them pretty much as they were, doing what they did and using the publishing labels and brands they had to get as much money as they can from all platforms, and will just collect their profits and block any exclusivity deal with MS or Nintendo (and rival companies in case of anime). And regarding gaming they would continue having with them the relationship they had since PS1: they make some exclusive game from time to time (FromSoft and the other Kadokawa teams had dozens of exclusives for all PS consoles) and some multiplatform game from time to time.
 
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The news is that they are (supposed to be) in talks. If talks succed and end agreeing the acquisition then pretty likely there would be a long period of paperworks and approvals from regulators.

And if things go well, the acquisition would be closed maybe in a year from now or even more. More or less when they expect to sell 80% of their banks stuff to spend that money mostly on entertainment acquisitions and investments.

So it would be in line with what Sony said a while ago: that basically regarding acquisitions they were going to have a low profile in the short term and would resume them in the mid-to-long term (which aligned more or less with 2026 and beyond or maybe late 2025 and beyond being optimistic).

Regarding the budget, it is for acquisitions+investments+buy back Sony stocks for the whole Sony during 3 years. That isn't enough to buy Kadokawa. But well, Sony can always review the budget to increase it if they consider it, to pay with Sony stocks, to take money from somewhere else (like the one from selling their banks stuff) or even to get debt if it would be the case. Even if doesn't fit there, if Sony and Kadokawa are interested, they'll acquire them because the budget is flexible and Sony can afford this.

Not to sure about this as most the time they are on lock down and no one knows till and announcement is made.
So that being said it might be a lot further along then we know if people are hearing about it now.
 

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Y'all can't even get Bloodborne or Demon Souls on PC and you think these games will be their day one.

Sony ain't ever dropping the PSN requirement either. With that said hope this is threw so I can all the hit dogs hollering 😁
This acquisition will speed up a PC version of Demon's Souls and Bloodborne. About the PSN account, do Bungie games require it? No? Well then same thing for From Software.
 

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Older games released did not require PSN but all new games will for "security"
PlayStation Studios games require it. Bungie don't and From won't either. I mean they can try if they're really that stupid. Remember the shitstorm for Helldivers II? This will be much worse and Sony once again will bend the knee.
 
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Why do you start every post with an insult. Please stop.
The news is that they are (supposed to be) in talks. If talks succed and end agreeing the acquisition then pretty likely there would be a long period of paperworks and approvals from regulators.

And if things go well, the acquisition would be closed maybe in a year from now or even more. More or less when they expect to sell 80% of their banks stuff to spend that money mostly on entertainment acquisitions and investments.

So it would be in line with what Sony said a while ago: that basically regarding acquisitions they were going to have a low profile in the short term and would resume them in the mid-to-long term (which aligned more or less with 2026 and beyond or maybe late 2025 and beyond being optimistic).

Regarding the budget, it is for acquisitions+investments+buy back Sony stocks for the whole Sony during 3 years. That isn't enough to buy Kadokawa. But well, Sony can always review the budget to increase it if they consider it, to pay with Sony stocks, to take money from somewhere else (like the one from selling their banks stuff) or even to get debt if it would be the case. Even if doesn't fit there, if Sony and Kadokawa are interested, they'll acquire them because the budget is flexible and Sony can afford this.

Yurinka, you're full of shit.

You said Sony would not be looking to do acquisitions and I told you, you were wrong.

Flat out own it.

I said Sony was going to act in line with their mid range plan and you tried to push back against that. Don't be a clown and take the L. You're also wrong on the budget.
 
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Concord definitely needs to be dragged thru the mud.

It’s the defining example of failure in western game’s media after a series of trash like it that was desperately forced down our throats.

Costly. Cringe. Overconfident. It’s when grift goes too far. Woke is dead. It doesn’t make money. Hundreds of millions for 12 days on the market and maybe 1k players.

Meanwhile Helldivers, Palworld and Wukong show everyone to put their money elsewhere.

Like wtf even succeeded this year made by the west? Warhammer and a Destiny expansion?

Imagine this loon thinking Helldivers wasn't made in the west...
 

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Saw this on 4chan:
“from /a/
>Japanese people believe Kadokawa asked Sony for help after South Korea's Kakao Corporation continued to aggressively buy more company shares. Kadokawa was in danger of becoming a Korean company”
 

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This stupid clown.

Sony makes a bad move = bad
Sony makes a good move = bad

At this point even if they opened back Japan studio, these Xbox idiots would find a way to bash it.

Imo it’s great acquisition !
 

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Demon Souls was a flop in Japan that had to be saved by American audiences. Even Bloodborne was more of a niche product with an underground cult following that built up over time. No one expected the popularity of Elden Ring including these people who pretend to be Nostradamus on video game forums.
Once Sony realised how good demons is they remade it. That shows they understand it now. Doesn’t matter they didn’t back then