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It's Steam internal data from their users who didn't disable the option to send your info, so pretty likely the info from most of their users.
Dude. It doesn't sample everyone who has that option enabled. It looks at a small fractional percentage of the userbase who opt in, and then a fraction of those who agree to take the survey. I've been using steam for around 15 years across multiple PCs and I've been asked to take the survey like twice.
 

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Dude. It doesn't sample everyone who has that option enabled. It looks at a small fractional percentage of the userbase who opt in, and then a fraction of those who agree to take the survey. I've been using steam for around 15 years across multiple PCs and I've been asked to take the survey like twice.

Don't argue, Yurinka will ignore any arguments.
 
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Dude. It doesn't sample everyone who has that option enabled. It looks at a small fractional percentage of the userbase who opt in, and then a fraction of those who agree to take the survey. I've been using steam for around 15 years across multiple PCs and I've been asked to take the survey like twice.
If that would be the case, the graphs that are drawn visually wouldn't be as steady and consistent as they are: they would have big changes from one month to another. The graphs include several months and you aren't able to spot the changes from a month to another. Which means their sambple is big enough and well chosen enough to provide consisent results.

And if it wouldn't be worth it and accurate Valve wouldn't have efforts on keeping updating it and sharing it every month. And devs wouldn't use it as reference. And Valve wouldn't tell the devs to use it as reference.
 
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If that would be the case, the graphs that are drawn visually wouldn't be as steady and consistent as they are: they would have big changes from one month to another. The graphs include several months and you aren't able to spot the changes from a month to another. Which means their sambple is big enough and well chosen enough to provide consisent results.

And if it wouldn't be worth it and accurate Valve wouldn't have efforts on keeping updating it and sharing it every month. And devs wouldn't use it as reference. And Valve wouldn't tell the devs to use it as reference.
You think you can't see a difference between the Chinese language going up 20% in 2 months and the English one going down 10%?
For example here's May.

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And the numbers for April
Screenshot_20231125_215745.jpg You can see the wild fluctuations every month because something is fucked up with their sampling algorithm. Again, it's likely because they keep oversampling Chinese net cafes.
 

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You think you can't see a difference between the Chinese language going up 20% in 2 months and the English one going down 10%?
For example here's May.

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And the numbers for April
View attachment 3120You can see the wild fluctuations every month because something is fucked up with their sampling algorithm. Again, it's likely because they keep oversampling Chinese net cafes.
I see that China is growing a lot in Steam according to the charts, which match what Valve say that China is growing a lot in Steam and what the market analysts say about China being the biggest and the fastest growing country, and that also matches with the growth in PlayStation.

These graphs you show can't be April and may 2023 becaue English would jump from 22.83% to 35.91% but says that the change is only +0.27% instead of +13.08%. Also, around half of the Steam users speak Chinese, so English can't be the top language, something is weird in that screenshot.
 

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I see that China is growing a lot in Steam according to the charts, which match what Valve say that China is growing a lot in Steam and what the market analysts say about China being the biggest and the fastest growing country, and that also matches with the growth in PlayStation.

These graphs you show can't be April and may 2023 becaue English would jump from 22.83% to 35.91% but says that the change is only +0.27% instead of +13.08%. Also, around half of the Steam users speak Chinese, so English can't be the top language, something is weird in that screenshot.
I mean I linked it for you. Check the dates of the articles. Unless you think I photoshopped it for this meaningless debate? That'd be a pointless expenditure of effort.
 

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I mean I linked it for you. Check the dates of the articles. Unless you think I photoshopped it for this meaningless debate? That'd be a pointless expenditure of effort.
Mate, really, forget about it. You provided data that backs your argument, and your argument is very sound. Yurinka now moved from saying you're wrong to questioning your data, but there won't be a next step. It's a futile discussion.