Should Sony exclude Xbox from crossplay on all titles?

[Kokoloko]

Yes. Its not Sony job to help Xbox have people to play with.

It was the same shitty "journalists", online fans and shills that tried to make Sony the bad guy.
Because it only benefits people who lack online community. Not Playstation

 

[Zzero]

A word of caution. Doing so could piss off publishers of big third party games (think Fortnite) and possibly even leave them leaving out PS. There've been cases where console-maker demands have lead too games skipping their platform, even the "lead" one, in the past.

 

[Danja]

A word off caution. Doing so could piss off publishers of big third party games (think Fortnite) and possibly even leave them leaving out PS. There've been cases where console-maker demands have lead too games skipping their platform, even the "lead" one, in the past.

And how are they gonna leave out Playstation? For Multiplayer games?

 

[KiryuRealty]

I really fail to see the benefit to trying to shutter Xbox from Crossplay. Genuine question(I'm really not trying to be a dick here) but do you have IRL friends who play games? My buddies from high school and workmates are all still on Xbox and have little interest in leaving for another platform. Being able to play with them is very nice. The last time I played games on Xbox was in 2017-2018ish, because no one at my school had a PS4. Crossplay letting me still play with those people was a godsend.

Xbox cross play brings in two things: a toxic player base and cheaters.

PlayStation doesn’t need either one, and with Xbox having a tiny, dying user base, there’s only addition by subtraction in blocking cross play with it.

 

[Zzero]

And how are they gonna leave out Playstation? For Multiplayer games?

Yes. When 360 was winning it left out Dust 514 because it demanded crossplay and Eve Online interaction (both were banned at the time.) Roblox skipped Playstation when they couldn't come to terms a few years ago. Just because you're the leader doesn't mean that 3rd parties will bow down and change their own gameplans to accommodate you.

 

[Nhomnhom]

Yes. When 360 was winning it left out Dust 514 because it demanded crossplay and Eve Online interaction (both were banned at the time.) Roblox skipped Playstation when they couldn't come to terms a few years ago. Just because you're the leader doesn't mean that 3rd parties will bow down and change their own gameplans to accommodate you.

360 was never really winning it just launched ahead of PS3 and sold less over the years until PS3 caught up and surpassed it.

With that said, now it's going to be really hard for Sony to ever walk back on it.

 

[Danja]

Yes. When 360 was winning it left out Dust 514 because it demanded crossplay and Eve Online interaction (both were banned at the time.) Roblox skipped Playstation when they couldn't come to terms a few years ago. Just because you're the leader doesn't mean that 3rd parties will bow down and change their own gameplans to accommodate you.

Roblox was Sony being shortsighted but Dust 514 is so irrelevant here. There's no major 3rd party that's gonna skip Playstation with a major multiplayer game, it's just not gonna happen.

 

[Danja]

360 was never really winning it just launched ahead of PS3 and sold less over the years until PS3 caught up and surpassed it.

With that said, now it's going to be really hard for Sony to ever walk back on it.

Exactly they can't walk it back but they really allowed the orchestrated smear campaign to get outta their control.

 

[Zzero]

360 was never really winning it just launched ahead of PS3 and sold less over the years until PS3 caught up and surpassed it.

With that said, now it's going to be really hard for Sony to ever walk back on it.

For the purposes of western releases, which Japanese people basically did not buy back then (and still buy at a smaller rate than eastern releases today) it might as well have been. It also had the larger install base during the time of the game's development.

 

[imagepill]

Xbox cross play brings in two things: a toxic player base and cheaters.

PlayStation doesn’t need either one, and with Xbox having a tiny, dying user base, there’s only addition by subtraction in blocking cross play with it.

>Toxic player base

No one uses in game voice chats for the most part, with everyone being in party chats or discord. There's no federation between PSN/XBL Messages either.

> Cheaters
This comes from PC Crossplay. There are no working hardmods or softmods for Xbox One or the Series Consoles(if you'd like to share one, please do). The most you can do is play around with savegame modifications, which don't affect online games.

 

[KiryuRealty]

>Toxic player base

No one uses in game voice chats for the most part, with everyone being in party chats or discord. There's no federation between PSN/XBL Messages either.

> Cheaters
This comes from PC Crossplay. There are no working hardmods or softmods for Xbox One or the Series Consoles(if you'd like to share one, please do). The most you can do is play around with savegame modifications, which don't affect online games.

There’s more to toxic online behaviour than voice chat.

 

[ksdixon]

Xbox cross play brings in two things: a toxic player base and cheaters.

PlayStation doesn’t need either one, and with Xbox having a tiny, dying user base, there’s only addition by subtraction in blocking cross play with it.

PC brings cheaters too?

At very least I don't think they can fully put the cat back in the bag, with nod to "platform games" like your Fortnite and Warzones, but they should knock that shit on the head, and dial it back to game by game basis.

Is it still possible to have cross platform linked account progression say if I had a game on PC and PS, but not mix the online playerbases? One is matchmaking pools pools and one is progression tracking, different features, right?

Edit: like having a "2K account" for WWE cross platform community creations, or a "WB account" for MK progression tracking. And cant Sony handle that shit on the backend with the companies, so we just use our PS account and Sony say which game by game can have it's crossplay turned on. And we just go to Game Presets in PS5 menu and say:

Where allowed, use crossplay

Cross play with consoles only

Cross play with consoles/PC/mobile

 

[KiryuRealty]

Sony should absolutely exclude Xbox, because when everybody plays, we all win! (That’s how it works, right? Excluding anyone not on your platform makes you the good guy, doesn’t it?)

 

[Ezekiel]

If Sony gets a cut from the lesser platforms, I have no issue.

 

[Vertigo]

>Toxic player base

No one uses in game voice chats for the most part, with everyone being in party chats or discord. There's no federation between PSN/XBL Messages either.

> Cheaters
This comes from PC Crossplay. There are no working hardmods or softmods for Xbox One or the Series Consoles(if you'd like to share one, please do). The most you can do is play around with savegame modifications, which don't affect online games.

Eh, you’d be surprised. High level matches will have players turning their mics on even in randoms. You def want it when you need it.

Honestly, the dual sense on ps5 having mic built in has had a noticeable increase in the use of comms from my experience. Easy to opt in and drop some info etc and then go back to comms off.

Shooters are also trending to having comms on by default again now. It’s been a long time coming. Good to see.

The idea of “toxic” player bases is such fanboy bullshit tho. Not a real concern. In fact… it’s a garbage, worthless and laughable talking point

Controller add-ons like cronus are compatible with Xbox one, series and ps4. Not on ps5. Accessibility my ass of course. They’re cheating devices

In reality a ps5 only lobby would be most ideal scenario to avoid cheaters. Nice to think about but would be disastrous for most online games.

 

[Yurinka]

Roblox skipped Playstation when they couldn't come to terms a few years ago. Just because you're the leader doesn't mean that 3rd parties will bow down and change their own gameplans to accommodate you.

Roblox had a timed console exclusivity, marketing from MS, console bundles with Xbox and was included in GP.

I'd bet MS paid for the timed console exclusivity and this is the only reason of why it wasn't released in PS before.

 

[KiryuRealty]

Roblox had a timed console exclusivity, marketing from MS, console bundles with Xbox and was included in GP.

I'd bet MS paid for the timed console exclusivity and this is the only reason of why it wasn't released in PS before.

Dude, it was ALL OVER THE PLACE months ago that Sony had actually denied Roblox due to concerns about child safety on the platform. Jim Ryan got mocked for saying that was the reason, then BOOM, a few days after it was announced for PS4 there was another story about some pervert luring a kid over Roblox.