So Starfield Flopped? Sales Below expectations?

[laynelane]

Considering they knew and willingly gave up millions of sales on PS, I am personally without sympathy for any troubles MS and Bethesda may have with Starfield. As @toadsage44 said: "They made this bed, now they can lie in it."

On another note, it's been one bad decision after another with XBox. This is just the latest one. I really wonder how long MS will continue to tolerate these constant failures.

 

[Muddasar]

I don't see how they could possibly expect this game to be as successful or even more successful than previous entries when they blocked an entire ecosystem from having access to it. They made this bed, now they can lie in it.

Whole point was to get Playstation gamers to flock to Xbox.

Didn’t happen.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Whole point was to get Playstation gamers to flock to Xbox.

Didn’t happen.

that is not the point

 

[ultimateFF]

Considering they knew and willingly gave up millions of sales on PS, I am personally without sympathy for any troubles MS and Bethesda may have with Starfield. As @toadsage44 said: "They made this bed, now they can lie in it."

On another note, it's been one bad decision after another with XBox. This is just the latest one. I really wonder how long MS will continue to tolerate these constant failures.

In hindsight, spending $7.5 billion for bethesda is absolute blunder for MS lmao. Mark my words, losing Playstation supports will kill bethesda for good .

 

[Box]

In hindsight, spending $7.5 billion for bethesda is absolute blunder for MS lmao. Mark my words, losing Playstation supports will kill bethesda for good .

Microsoft is a 2 trillion dollar company, as much as i hate them this is just oocket change for them

 

[laynelane]

Microsoft is a 2 trillion dollar company, as much as i hatw then this is just oocket change for them

That's true, but you don't become and remain a 2 trillion company by spending millions consistently on a division with poor returns. XBox is already an outlier in terms how long they've stuck with it (compared to other divisions they've bailed on much sooner). I don't expect them to throw in the towel, but if this downward trajectory continues - their current strategy may be changed whether Phil likes it or not.

 

[Muddasar]

that is not the point

Oh that is the whole point of exclusives.

Getting gamers on your platform.

Especially when you are taking a hit on profits.

 

[Muddasar]

Microsoft is a 2 trillion dollar company, as much as i hatw then this is just oocket change for them

Money isn’t infinite and Microsoft has other divisions to feed.

Xbox can’t keep leaking money.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Oh that is the whole point of exclusives.

Getting gamers on your platform.

Especially when you are taking a hit on profits.

"PlayStation gamers to flock to Xbox". That's not the point.

Getting gamers on your platform, + Regardless of whether they own a console from the competition

that is the point.

 

[Remember_Spinal]

Will be interesting to see how many actual AAA games they are willing to drop into gamepass if this doesn’t move a needle

Would be very surprised if they also don’t raise the price again by the end of the year.

 

[Remember_Spinal]

Money isn’t infinite and Microsoft has other divisions to feed.

Xbox can’t keep leaking money.

Exactly, people act as if microsoft never killed unsuccessful product lines before. If something doesn’t make money and its actually costing a lot to maintain then they are gonna cut budgets or that line of product.

Companies don’t grow to be this size taking decades of losses

 

[Box]

Exactly, people act as if microsoft never killed unsuccessful product lines before. If something doesn’t make money and its actually costing a lot to maintain then they are gonna cut budgets or that line of product.

Companies don’t grow to be this size taking decades of losses

Xbox has never been successful, it has never made a profit from day one yet they have kept the brand alive for all these years.

Believe me i wish they killed this brand off years ago, Microsoft are parasites

 

[Muddasar]

Xbox has never been successful, it has never made a profit from day one yet they have kept the brand alive for all these years.

Believe me i wish they killed this brand off years ago, Microsoft are parasites

Correct they have never been successful.

Difference now is that Microsoft has pumped 85 billion worth of investment into Xbox.

If they are still unsuccessful then it’s goodbye.

 

[Crow]

Correct they have never been successful.

Difference now is that Microsoft has pumped 85 billion worth of investment into Xbox.

If they are still unsuccessful then it’s goodbye.

Lol saying they never been successful is big cap

 

[Muddasar]

Lol saying they never been successful is big cap

Yep so successful they never reveal their profit margins.

I wonder why.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Correct they have never been successful.

Difference now is that Microsoft has pumped 85 billion worth of investment into Xbox.

If they are still unsuccessful then it’s goodbye.

to the console. the division is here to stay.

 

[Killer_Sakoman]

to the console. the division is here to stay.

Of course they won't drop the division. Only the console.

 

[Cool hand luke]

Yep so successful they never reveal their profit margins.

I wonder why.

Forget profit margins. So successful they won't even share their hardware unit sales or subscribers!

I know I always hide things away in a remote vault never to see the light of day instead of celebrating them when they're good, how about you?

 

[anonpuffs]

Exactly, people act as if microsoft never killed unsuccessful product lines before. If something doesn’t make money and its actually costing a lot to maintain then they are gonna cut budgets or that line of product.

Companies don’t grow to be this size taking decades of losses

I think the problem right now is that Xbox is a significant portion of their revenue, it's close to 10% of their annual revenue. Even if 70% of that is money owed to 3rd party publishers selling product on their platform, it would be a significant downgrade to their revenue if they just shut it down, which may affect the stock performance and endanger Nadella's job. So they're probably loathe to cut it without significant shareholder pushback.

 

[Swolf712]

It did not do well in the UK when looking at boxed sales.

15k first week which even with an 80% digital share puts it below Fallout 76.

4k in Spain week 1 is the only other number we have.

Really? Because I saw a chart getting passed around that seemed to show it ranking high in boxed sales at the time.