Sony FY2024 Q2 Earnings Announcement | OT

[Muddasar]

Ok, let's assume you have variety (like Nintendo does, but that's not the point and I DID ask regarding the kid-friendly games), but they would still have an underpowered console next-gen to counter the ballooning of development costs.

Same question: would YOU be ok with it?



So is it a failure or a success? Should Sony make more or less of this kind of games?

How many times have I said Sony needs MORE veriety.

You can’t put all your eggs in one basket.

Astro Bot is a relative success for what it is.

It is NOT a system seller. These guys complement the other games. You can’t rely on them unless you are Nintendo.

AAA Blockbusters like GOW, Spiderman, TLOU are the system sellers.

 

[AllBizness]

It Takes Two sold so well because its momentum was carried across multiple platforms. If Astro Bot wins GOTY it needs to be ported to other platforms and get a major ad campaign.

That would upset some fanboys, but it would be great for Team Asobo and the Astro Bot IP.

PS5 exclusive its going to top out probably at 5 or 6 million units. If ported to the Switch, Switch 2, PS4, and PC... It would probably have the chance to do closer to 15-20 million units. The difference is night and day...

It would be dumb to port Astro Bot to other consoles and other consoles would never allow it. It's a PlayStation themed video game with PlayStation controllers, consoles, and appearances from iconic PlayStation characters throughout the game. Not sure why this forum became over ran with so many Nintendo fanboys lately port begging for everything. I thought this was a PlayStation centric forum not a Nintendo one. Perhaps I was wrong.

 

[mibu no ookami]

It would be dumb to port Astro Bot to other consoles and other consoles would never allow it. It's a PlayStation themed video game with PlayStation controllers, consoles, and appearances from iconic PlayStation characters throughout the game. Not sure why this forum became over ran with so many Nintendo fanboys lately port begging for everything. I thought this was a PlayStation centric forum not a Nintendo one. Perhaps I was wrong.

• Let's start with what you said, consoles, I didn't say consoles, I said Switch/switch 2.
• Lego Horizon is dropping on Switch, you think that isn't an advertisement for the Horizon franchise and PlayStation?
• I'm a Nintendo fanboy? I haven't owned a Nintendo product since the Gameboy Color or GameBoy Advance.
• I also suggested it should be ported to PC. I'm a PC fanboy too?
• This shouldn't be an any platform centric forum, fanboyism is a disease.

 

[AllBizness]

• Let's start with what you said, consoles, I didn't say consoles, I said Switch/switch 2.
• Lego Horizon is dropping on Switch, you think that isn't an advertisement for the Horizon franchise and PlayStation?
• I'm a Nintendo fanboy? I haven't owned a Nintendo product since the Gameboy Color or GameBoy Advance.
• I also suggested it should be ported to PC. I'm a PC fanboy too?
• This shouldn't be an any platform centric forum, fanboyism is a disease.

The Lego Horizon game has way higher pre order sales on PS5 then Switch. The Switch market is saturated and will nolonger move units in high volume. Even the very best Nintendo exclusive isn't enough for it to move any significant units at this point. That audience already has the Switch by now. Switch will come in 3rd for November in unit sales going by Amazon and Gamestop ect.

 

[arvfab]

How many times have I said Sony needs MORE veriety.

I'm saying it too, so don't know what's the problem is with that.

You can’t put all your eggs in one basket.

Astro Bot is a relative success for what it is.

It is NOT a system seller. These guys complement the other games. You can’t rely on them unless you are Nintendo.

AAA Blockbusters like GOW, Spiderman, TLOU are the system sellers.

You are still not answering a simple question:

PlayStation decides to have great variety, but with the power of a Nintendo console to have better profit/reduce costs. Would you be ok with it, yes or no?

 

[arvfab]

It would be dumb to port Astro Bot to other consoles and other consoles would never allow it. It's a PlayStation themed video game with PlayStation controllers, consoles, and appearances from iconic PlayStation characters throughout the game. Not sure why this forum became over ran with so many Nintendo fanboys lately port begging for everything. I thought this was a PlayStation centric forum not a Nintendo one. Perhaps I was wrong.

He is not a Nintendo fanboy, he just doesn't make sense when he writes stuff. Limitations of an unfinished AI.

 

[akira__]

who is that?

"Nintendo" "pcmr" stans, that are unaware of the platform they are stanning for.

You spotted one a few days ago.

Thing is, having one or two, here and there is fun. But the constant "switch" is winning, even though we just had the latest sales, nor they winning npd/Europe.

Who cares that Nintendo is still selling decade old games to kids and young parents.

They don't even play on the switch.

Or the constant pcmr stuff, that have heisenburg PC's that all have expensive latest gen video card and have gaming laptop/steamdeck.

Or the constant sony too arguments.

Meanwhile they all play playstation exclusives, more than so called sony ponies.

Could be fun, but it's now making almost any thread into sony doomed thread with any positivity being smuttered.

 

[CrackmanNL]

Imagine calling the fiscal numbers which goes against your narrative as propaganda. The irony.

 

[arvfab]

"Nintendo" "pcmr" stans, that are unaware of the platform they are stanning for.

You spotted one a few days ago.

Thing is, having one or two, here and there is fun. But the constant "switch" is winning, even though we just had the latest sales, nor they winning npd/Europe.

Who cares that Nintendo is still selling decade old games to kids and young parents.

They don't even play on the switch.

Or the constant pcmr stuff, that have heisenburg PC's that all have expensive latest gen video card and have gaming laptop/steamdeck.

Or the constant sony too arguments.

Meanwhile they all play playstation exclusives, more than so called sony ponies.

Could be fun, but it's now making almost any thread into sony doomed thread with any positivity being smuttered.

None of that would happen if Sony didn't start going multiplatform

 

[Hezekiah]

who is that?

Bollocks or whatever his name is.

Fitting name really....

 

[ethomaz]

Totoki said that PS5 Pro preorders are “slightly stronger” than PS4 Pro…

Not unexpected… I work with the prediction of PS5 Pro ratio a bit better than PS4 Pro.

 

[akira__]

None of that would happen if Sony didn't start going multiplatform

Explain

 

[SuperPotato]

Explain

They feel threatened by PC ports because of what happened to Xbox, ignoring the fact that Xbox was already in a bad place long before MS went day 1 with PC.

It was so bad that MS wanted to ditch the Xbox division. Again that was years before the PC push.

 

[akira__]

They feel threatened by PC ports because of what happened to Xbox, ignoring the fact that Xbox was already in a bad place long before MS went day 1 with PC.

It was so bad that MS wanted to ditch the Xbox division. Again that was years before the PC push.

Ah so that's why we have so many acting like they are Nintendo-pc fans/s

 

[arvfab]

Explain

You have the Xbots saying Sony-too, because Sony has opened the gate of games on other platforms.

You have the PCMR folk crying for day-1 and crying for PSN log-ins.

You have the Nintendo-fans (rightly) bragging about how Nintendo are the only ones left with exclusive games.

And you have the "doomers", who put everything in a negative light.

Then you have the smart people, the real gamers, who recognize the benefits of exclusive games and content. Who see the pattern of bad decisions (especially for the core playerbase) and aren't there counting the money in pockets which aren't their own, while sucking the corporate balls.

 

[SuperPotato]

Ah so that's why we have so many acting like they are Nintendo-pc fans/s

Most of them are just hardcore PS fans who threaten to switch to PC but won't actually do it.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Totoki said that PS5 Pro preorders are “slightly stronger” than PS4 Pro…

Not unexpected… I work with the prediction of PS5 Pro ratio a bit better than PS4 Pro.

It won't hold long-term. Missing persistent market factors and (potentially) impending outside economic factors will soften PS5 Pro sales in the long run. But for the immediate launch phase, I don't think anyone was saying it'd perform badly or launch softer than PS4 Pro. There was no reason to speculate that.

However, and this is with PS5 in general, I do not think GTA6 is going to create this massive boon in hardware sales some are thinking/hoping. The official trailer has been out for a year now and platforms known. A good amount of people over the past year have already purchased a PS5 (or in less cases, a Series X or S) in anticipation for the game. There are people buying the Pro right now, in anticipation for the game. There are even people who've bought PS5s and Xboxes over the past 3-4 years in anticipation for GTA6, knowing the game's inevitably coming. Just a matter of when.

Considering I don't expect a Pro price cut or sales promotions within its first year (otherwise it'd signal desperation or worry over extreme underperformance), the only way SIE can likely get the type of massive unit sales bumps some are speculating, is with temporary sales promos in markets like America in time for GTA6's release. That such'll likely coincide with Black Friday and Christmas gives the reasoning, but like all sales promos, it'll be for a limited period. I don't expect any permanent price cut for PS5 within the next year. Also not expecting any GTA6 bundles.

Lastly insofar as how much a boost GTA6 is for PS5 in particular, is going to depend on:

A: How long it takes for a PC port to release​

B: How long it takes for a Switch 2 port to release (a Switch 2 port IS happening, I strongly believe this)​

C: If next-gen Xbox is actually a console/PC-like hybrid, has good enough volume production, and releases in 2026 as rumored​

All three things will naturally depreciate the selling power of GTA6 for PS5 but it's also ranked in order of most-to-least impactful. Thing is though, I expect all three to happen at roughly the same time frame or within the span of a year from one another, but if T2 are smart, the PC port would be saved for last as an early 2027 release timed with the deployment of next-gen GTA Online.

 

[Impulse]

Fucking Takeshi Mochizuki couldn't find any thing to poke with these results, and that guy hates Sony like he had a dog get run over by a Playstation exec or something.

Honestly surprised at the rise in network services revenue, I personally cancelled my PS Plus subscription because of the price increase.

 

[Vertigo]

Astrobit has done well. Means a lot more than what the bundled game did.

I don’t think that means to bring back older kid IPs. New ones sure… I think the furry era of brand mascots ended with the 90s.

 

[mibu no ookami]

The Lego Horizon game has way higher pre order sales on PS5 then Switch. The Switch market is saturated and will nolonger move units in high volume. Even the very best Nintendo exclusive isn't enough for it to move any significant units at this point. That audience already has the Switch by now. Switch will come in 3rd for November in unit sales going by Amazon and Gamestop ect.

It's not about outperforming Switch, it's just about getting more eyeballs.