The Doomers and Gloomers, Sony is dying thread.

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The competition is there... Nintendo and steam.

They are losing customers to them.
PS isn’t just loosing customers to Nintendo & Steam.

There loosing massive market share & overall power. This been proven w 3rd party partners moving more multiplat likely focusing on Steam & Nintendo which not only effects PS console it also effects PS PC launcher if PS introduce a PS PC launcher will 3rd party support a PS PC launcher if PS games like there multiplayer or even pc port aren’t even exclusive to the PS PC launcher driving consumers to it & I’m talking about permanent exclusive
 
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PS isn’t just loosing customers to Nintendo & Steam.

There loosing massive market share & overall power. This been proven w 3rd party partners moving more multiplat likely focusing on Steam & Nintendo which not only effects PS console it also effects PS PC launcher if PS introduce a PS PC launcher will 3rd party support a PS PC launcher if PS games like there multiplayer or even pc port aren’t even exclusive to the PS PC launcher driving consumers to it & I’m talking about permanent exclusive
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When you look at the YoY shipment rate for gaming consoles by brand, Sony has consistently been growing proportionally to other console competitors like Nintendo and Xbox, not shrinking.
 

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Pro enhancement is not required. Pro certified is. It has to run on the PS5 Pro.
I'm not sure this makes sense, since all games released for the PS5 already run on the PS5 Pro in compatibility mode.

What good is a certification that doesn't require anything?




Xbox is literally the biggest and best it's ever been.
Dude how do you even expect people to read your bible after this first sentence?
 

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Xbox is literally the biggest and best it's ever been. The third party support is the best that it's ever been including Xbox 360. It going to become more and more about the platform and eco-system what they offer you as opposed to just the box which all have an expiration date and eventually be obsolete.

Xbox will remain relevant as a platform with hardware (console and handheld) while also going where others are which makes more sense than trying to force people to come to you which isn't going to happen. This applies to Sony as well but to a lesser extent because like him or not, Phil was right when said that losing the PS4/XBO generation was the worst generation to lose because it's where everyone picked their platform of choice and started building out their digital collections/libraries and will simply stay on that platform regardless of what the other does and even more so if they're an online live service multi-player gamer because they're not going to leave the platform where their friends are also playing.

Did you ever think that Sony would allow MLB to go to other platforms when their own internal studio develops the game every year, that Bungie would remain multi-platform after Sony acquired them, that Lego Horizon Adventures was agreed upon by Sony to allow to go to Switch and of course, did you ever think that Sony would start embracing PC with releasing games day one and speeding up their porting process in order to get their games day one on PC sooner rather than later? My guess is that you (and many others) believed that they would never ever do any of this yet here we are.

Their hardware makes more revenue because it costs more but their growth is literally stagnated and is nothing more than retaining what they had with PS4 which again, was the best generation for Sony to win and the worst generation for Microsoft (especially when they're more digital focused than any other company) to lose.

As a hypothetical, if exclusivity was dead on PlayStation, like every game from every publisher was everywhere, what would keep you on PlayStation? Granted, you could go to PC but at the cost of spending $3000+ on a really good PC rig which will probably be closer to $5000 by the time PlayStation 6 releases in Fall 2028. I would assume that you would still be buying and playing Sony's games as well as other games that you would normally buy and play so outside of spending extra money which only hurts you, what would be the benefit of you leaving the PlayStation platform and eco-system?

I really don't see or understand how leaving the platform and eco-system that you like and prefer benefits you just because Sony is adapting and evolving which every company eventually does. You're still going to get the games that you want from Sony. Only difference is that others not in the PlayStation platform and eco-system will get to play them as well.

For me, I gave up the console war and exclusivity bullshit because it is over and honestly, doesn't matter. The biggest games on Xbox and PlayStation month in and month out are the multi-platform live service games that aren't going to lose and even the few single player games like a Hogwarts Legacy or Elden Ring are few are far between when you consider the hundreds of games that get released on a yearly basis. I prefer Xbox. I want subscriptions and they give me Game Pass while Ubisoft gives me Ubisoft+ on Xbox, nether of which I can get on PlayStation. I get free cloud saves, better backwards compatibility, free upgrades, auto HDR, FPS boost, an actual six game a year refund policy, ability to use my Xbox One controller which is my favorite and best of all time and more. Hell, they also allow you to buy one copy of the game and play it on PC via the Windows Store as well as Xbox consoles. Granted, Windows Store sucks and will never be anywhere near the level of Valve with Steam but it's nice knowing that you don't have to buy the game twice if you're in their eco-system. Or now, cloud streaming which Sony is also doing.

Exclusivity is slowing dying out just like physical games yet people who can't accept this want to hold on to all of this shit when in reality, it literally changes nothing for them. Microsoft porting their games and it can be every single game which it probably will be eventually to Sony/Nintendo changes nothing for me. I'm still playing their games on Xbox via Game Pass day one. I'm not waiting months/years nor am I going to pay $70 for any Microsoft game (or third party games that are day one on Game Pass that I want to play or Ubisoft's games anymore) if im not required to do so.

But to each their own. I simply decided to stop giving a fuck about all of this shit because the console war is fucking over and has been over for probably a decade at this point and in doing so, I have enjoyed gaming and playing games more now in the last 6+ months than I did before because now, all I care about are the games that I want to play, that I can play them on my Xbox Series X and that I hopefully enjoy them. Everything else, I simply stopped giving two shits about. :)

Great that you are finally experiencing greatness on playstation.

But you said exclusives are dying, lets look at the game of the year nominated games. 2 playstation exclusives, and another is a defacto console exclusive because it skipped Xbox. With another being rumored to become part of playstation.

Metaphor: ReFantazio
Astro Bot
Black Myth: Wukong
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree
Balatro

This has never happened before, that half of the nominations are not on Xbox.