The Doomers and Gloomers, Sony is dying thread.

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I just sent you a link for the Steam stats of Ragnarök.

Here you have the one for GoW:


What do you say how they compare? Was it worth it?
GoW had a better start like twice the numbers of CCU but after that Ragnarok hold better with some high peaks.
Looking at both seems like they are doing very similar but GoW had a bigger launch and Ragnarok with better peaks after that a month.
Who will sell better in the long run is hard to predict here because looking at the end of graph aligned they are having very similar number of daily CCU (~5-6k) but Ragnarok seems to have weekends peak at 8-9k while GoW have weekend peaks below 7k.

I tried to align the best I could...

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In conclusion...

Except for the launch weeks seems like Ragnarok is doing a bit better or at least catching the launch difference.
 

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That's some very optimistic way to view it, but ok, my question remains:

Was it worth it?
You made the question to the wrong person... I don't think any PC release is worth of anything without a PlayStation ecosystem inside PC.
You are just giving money to Steam weirdos.
But it not like all games are doing bad there.

PS. I did better pics with the exactly aligns the 2nd month of GoW Ragnarok with the 2nd month of God of War.
It is more clear they are trailing very similar with a small edge to Ragnarok.
Is that enough to catch the launch difference? Depends how much sales related to CCU and how much time it stay like that... plus how holiday increase it.

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Because we PlayStation gamers are getting shittier products due to multiplatform development and we are being told that it's all for the profits and the MAUs Sony gains by shitting on their customer base.

Yet everytime a game flops it's excuses:
- it's an old game
- it requires a PSN link
- it's a remaster no one asked for
- it's too expensive
- it's a kids game
- just wait for the show/movie/sale/Santa Claus
- it's free money in a decade
like i said before, once PlayStation release a major release day and date on pc then we will see. But until then will we never know.
 

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So the peak went to 602 and instead of updating the title of my thread they merged it here in the garbage place. That 20 CCU will make the whole difference I'm sure 🤭

Iconera = Yurinka palace and safespace 🤡

Era made a low effort thread with nothing but a link and a screenshot and it's already at 5 pages. I had a poll! 😡

Thread 'Lego Horizon peaked at 602000000000000000000 CCU on Steam' https://www.resetera.com/threads/lego-horizon-peaked-at-602000000000000000000-ccu-on-steam.1036116/
At 602 peak users they might of well of had just made Lego Concord instead
 

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Well some games did sell very well on PC but all of them where more aligned with Steam audience.
It is not like no Sony's game sold millions on Steam.

Expecting to a Lego game put Steam on fire is really a bit out of place.
Even more a mediocre Lego game.

The real battlefield for Lego Horizon is PS5 and Switch... if it fails thee then it means real failure.
If they success there then it won't matter what Steam think about the game.
No matter how it sold on PS5 and Switch everyone will be talking about Steam CCU now.
 
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That's some very optimistic way to view it, but ok, my question remains:

Was it worth it?
The damage to the PS brand, PS storefront & PS hardware far outweighs the roughly 100K-300K max sells PS gets equating to roughly 50 million dollars in profit. At face value it may look like a free 50 million but when looking at the negatives & diminishment surrounding there business like loosing 3rd party relationships etc PS own platform gets damage & turns loosing more then what they would’ve made on PC.

The only platform, storefront & ecosystem that is strengthened is Valve/Steam as the defacto gaming storefront/platform
 
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How sad that the mod sided with Yurinka. We had many CCU threads before. All the message boards do.

I feel like I wasted my time doing a thread. Fuck this shit.
Yeah who ever folded this to “doom & gloom” should not be mod.

To fold a thread about public ccu & the conversation surrounding a specific game failure is a bad look. Makes it look like mod wanted to cover reality w sugar & rainbows, the reality is if PS continues this destructive path they will end up like Xbox.

Does it not show who folded the thread? Funny enough the same mods would keep a ccu thread for any Xbox game that bomb. Lego Horizon like any other previous PS PC port has been going in a decline trend w very little hype. PS games use to be prestige & hype people used to desire them now not so much PC players lost all if not a massive amount of desire to PS games (not even taking account the whole DEI shit) now existing & future PC player who bought PS games on a PS console or bought a PS console will now completely leave as they’ve see PS games as being nothing more then Ubisoft not so shitty slop. The magic that Nintendo protects PS has completely lost & it’s hard to get that magic back which is why Nintendo sues & doesn’t play around there ip being dealt in any form that would diminish it.
 
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He's a VIP, whatever that means. Going by how little he knows about anything, he must be Michael Pachter
Looks like will have to turn the doom & gloom thread as the cool party w funny threads/post. Either way it’s sad a forum site open for conversation is being suppressed/silent because people don’t want to face reality, kinda ass backwards for a forum site
 
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This if for you doomers.


The guy basically think Sony is in desperation with PS5 so they are doing a proxy war with Nintendo using Pocketpair,Inc.

I never read so much nonsense from a subject like this one :D
But it seems to fit the narrative of this thread.
It’s true. Really look at the landscapes. Nintendo is well positioned to surpass both Sony/PS & Disney w a market cap near roughly 60 billion Nintendo holds ip stronger, diverse/flexible & more powerful then Disney, Sony/PS or any other entertainment company. In console Nintendo well exceeds PS consoles. In games sales from first party Nintendo well exceeds them. In expansion & even as there just tipping there toes in cross media the Mario movie became a billion dollar movie extremely fast something Sony has trouble doing w only Spiderman being Sony golden ticket. In parks Nintendo has the ip to surpass Disneyland. Nintendo is god tier in the entertainment business who holds equally god tier ip.
 
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Failure after failure after failure. Time to turn the ship around and focus on exclusivity again.
PS did all this PC experiment just to loose the narrative & 3rd party questioning why they would even take a deal for exclusivity when PS doesnt even make there games exclusive. 💀 is it a fiasco or disaster?
 
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For a flop this big, waiting won't change the fate of this release. Outside the top 50 on launch day for a big publisher like Sony there's no way spin this. It's dead.
If PS was smart they would’ve made this game exclusive like Astro boy as a new fun experimental game for PS players charging a aggressive $50 so that people who in the edge would explore more AA games like these on PS while also remaining able to target families similar to Astor bot. Atleast PS fans would be hype which rn & leading up to LEGO horizon I’ve seen zero hype or talk about this game. Hell PS could’ve tied Lego Horizon PS5 plates & themes (if they actually had themes again) to increase hype bring more conversation & make players who wouldn’t be interested get rare exclusive themes for buying the game. Not sure if the game is coop but if it was exclusive you could’ve had online coop & push PS+ & maybe give exclusive cosmetics for PS+ players when they buy the game. Instead it will flop on all 3 platform & be nothing more then wasted money & time not guerrilla games worked on this game instead of a 3rd party wasting the time of developers who could’ve worked on a Killzone trilogy remake or brought the Killzone psp/ps vita games to PS4 & PS5 & likely sold more & brought more profits, joy towards PS fan, prestige & aura & overall a new game people would’ve wanted to see on modern PS console pushing PS consoles & it’s storefront/ecosystem
 
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In 2014, Totoki, as President and CEO of Sony Mobile, was responsible for transforming the smartphone business. Given how Sony's smartphone business performed under Totoki, it’s clear that the PlayStation is fucked.
What happen to Sony smartphones business?
 

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Yeah who ever folded this to “doom & gloom” should not be mod.

To fold a thread about public ccu & the conversation surrounding a specific game failure is a bad look. Makes it look like mod wanted to cover reality w sugar & rainbows, the reality is if PS continues this destructive path they will end up like Xbox.

Does it not show who folded the thread? Funny enough the same mods would keep a ccu thread for any Xbox game that bomb. Lego Horizon like any other previous PS PC port has been going in a decline trend w very little hype. PS games use to be prestige & hype people used to desire them now not so much PC players lost all if not a massive amount of desire to PS games (not even taking account the whole DEI shit) now existing & future PC player who bought PS games on a PS console or bought a PS console will now completely leave as they’ve see PS games as being nothing more then Ubisoft not so shitty slop. The magic that Nintendo protects PS has completely lost & it’s hard to get that magic back which is why Nintendo sues & doesn’t play around there ip being dealt in any form that would diminish it.
It's like Bryan just let them do whatever. It's bad when even Era gets to keep similar threads open but we can't.

I'm sure Draugoth/John Elden Ring will be able to make the same thread but mine got shoved in here 🖕🖕🖕
 
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