The many lies and failure under Jim Ryan leadership

[Yurinka]

Japan studios is probably even better now that they'll most likely work on more Astro games

Japan Studio died for your sins :'(

Japan Studio didn't die. It got downsized, changed their leadership and has happened before in USA en Europe, moved their 2nd party publishing team to a separate studio to don't have to report to a local gamedev studio, and to let that studio focus on their own games.

I don't remember where, but they mentioned that Team Asobi is working on a game that isn't an Astro games. Team Asobi already had a lot of teams who worked in many other previous Japan Studio game like Graviy Rush, The Last Guardian, Puppeteer and manu more when they started to work in game like Astro's Playroom. After the studio got restructured more devs from the other Japan Studio teams joined Team Asobi.

So much bias, and for what?

- Returnal = 3rd person bullet-hell rogue-like
- Demon's Souls = 3rd person souls-like game.
- God of War = 3rd person fantasy melee Metroidvania
- Spider-Man = 3rd person open-world super-hero action game
- Rift Apart = 3rd person semi open-world action-adventure game
- Horizon Forbidden West = 3rd person open-world RPG
- TLOU = 3rd person narrative linear shooting game.

Also, conveniently you missed:

- Gran Turismo = Racing simulator
- Sackboy = Isometric platformers
- Astrobot = 3rd person platformer
- Astrobot Rescue Missions = VR platformer
- Destruction All Stars = Multiplayer vehicle combat
- Dreams = Unique AF!

By the way, this list only shows how many games PlayStation has just released in the last couple of years alone

A few more from 2019 or newer:
-MLB = baseball game
-Everybody's Golf VR = VR golf game
-Ironman VR = VR flying superhero game
-Death Strandng = postapocalyptical postman simulator
-Tilt Brush = VR painting app
-Predator: Hunting Grounds: asymmetrical MP shooter
-Blood & Truth = VR FPS
-Erica = full motion video interative movie playable with phones as controller
-Concrete Genie = you solve puzzles by painting living graffities

 

[Savant]

So Xbox has apparently outsold PS5 the past three quarters in the US (no indication of margin), good on them. But I would bet heavily that PS5 has sold more overall.

Mat of the NPD said that PS5 is still #2 in dollar sales for 2022 in the US

So that means xbox has barely been selling more the past 3 quarters in the US (only due to severe PS5 stock issues)

For example,

xboneS sells 10, and that's 3k in dollar sales

PS5 has the demand of 10000x more sales, yet due to its stock being sabatoged, PS5 sells 8, but that's still 4k in dollar sales

So PS5 has 2 less sales due to stock shortages yet still dominates in dollar sales

That's how the picture has been looking in the US in 2022

However, PS5 dominated June NPD in units sold

So its like this

When PS5 wins a month in the US, PS5 wins it by 100-500k

When xbox wins a month in the US, xbox only wins by 50-100k at most

Mat himself even said in a tweet that 2022 USA sales have meant nothing because of how stock limited PS5 has been

But again, things picked up significantly for PS5 in June, so that's going to be the norm from now on

When stock normalizes PS5 is gonna be smashing xbone by margins greater than that of the PS4 era

Just leave it to microsoft to brag about the most irrelevant shit. It's the most pathetic flex ever

"But we have won 3 quarters out of like 25 in the USA"

It's like some bench warmer bragging that he out scored Michael Jordan in a game that Micheal Jordan didn't even play in

Don't worry though, what goes around comes around, and microsoft will be forced to eat their words on that pathetic flex

 

[Swift_Star]

So Xbox has apparently outsold PS5 the past three quarters in the US (no indication of margin), good on them. But I would bet heavily that PS5 has sold more overall.

For South America I've not seen any data, and MS doesn't release console sales anyway. But again I'd be surprised if Xbox has sold more because Playstation is a bigger and more popular brand there.

Are you Brazilian btw?

Yes I am and ethomaz is too.

 

[ethomaz]

If you are for the games, and games only. You cannot seriously liking what Jim is doing. I just don't believe it.

Why? He is giving us a lot of great games.

 

[SSfox]

Yes I am and ethomaz is too.

What console people like most here? I heard Mexican prefer Xbox over PS, but not sure about Brazil, i would say PS but not sure.

 

[Swift_Star]

What console people like most here? I heard Mexican prefer Xbox over PS, but not sure about Brazil, i would say PS but not sure.

Brasil prefere PS, it’s legacy since the ps1 and 2 days. Xbox 360 was popular because of piracy and series s because price. But PlayStation is seen like iPhone: the preferable and desirable one to have. You only go to Xbox if you can’t afford a ps. And now with revamped ps+, the only real leverage Xbox had here is… gone.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Note that even he didn't mention Days Gone

Are we going as far back as April 2019? Then I could also include the very unique Death Stranding, but I didn't go that far.

You want to go that far because there is just not enough games on the Xbox side to include? Is that why you want to go that far back?

 

[ethomaz]

So Xbox has apparently outsold PS5 the past three quarters in the US (no indication of margin), good on them. But I would bet heavily that PS5 has sold more overall.

For South America I've not seen any data, and MS doesn't release console sales anyway. But again I'd be surprised if Xbox has sold more because Playstation is a bigger and more popular brand there.

Are you Brazilian btw?

I tried to find something about sales here last week and there is nothing.

In any case based in online stores ranking like Amazon.com.br seems like that is the situations:

- Series S is selling more (it is #2) I guess for two reasons: price (it is being sold below R$2000) and availability (it is easy to find to buy).
- PlayStation 5 come after (#4) but you need most time lucky when new stocks reaches the stores.
- Series X is never in the rankings.

Now my guess opinion.

Due the high price of these consoles in Brasil when gamers buy Xbox they trend to choose Series S and when these same gamers choose to expend the near R$5000 for the big body they trend to choose PS5 over Series X.

The different in unit sales between Series S and PS5 is probably not that big here but the difference between Series S/PS5 and Series C is probably big to the point to the Series X never enter in rankings.

I should check Mercado Livre ranking late.

 

[adamsapple]

Are we going as far back as April 2019? Then I could also include the very unique Death Stranding, but I didn't go that far.

You want to go that far because there is just not enough games on the Xbox side to include? Is that why you want to go that far back?

Doesn't want to go back to 2019

Also includes 2018 games like God of War and Spider Man.

if i recall correctly where you're from (i think you said once on GAF), I can only say this in our mother tongue, mere dost ap buht cheez ho

 

[Heisenberg007]

Doesn't want to go back to 2019

Also includes 2018 games like God of War and Spider Man.

if i recall correctly where you're from (i think you said once on GAF), I can only say this in our mother tongue, mere dost ap buht cheez ho

Haha I didn't include GOW and Spider-Man my friend. The other guy did. I just responded to the games he included.

 

[Hezekiah]

Mat of the NPD said that PS5 is still #2 in dollar sales for 2022 in the US

So that means xbox has barely been selling more the past 3 quarters in the US (only due to severe PS5 stock issues)

For example,

xboneS sells 10, and that's 3k in dollar sales

PS5 has the demand of 10000x more sales, yet due to its stock being sabatoged, PS5 sells 8, but that's still 4k in dollar sales

So PS5 has 2 less sales due to stock shortages yet still dominates in dollar sales

That's how the picture has been looking in the US in 2022

However, PS5 dominated June NPD in units sold

So its like this

When PS5 wins a month in the US, PS5 wins it by 100-500k

When xbox wins a month in the US, xbox only wins by 50-100k at most

Mat himself even said in a tweet that 2022 USA sales have meant nothing because of how stock limited PS5 has been

But again, things picked up significantly for PS5 in June, so that's going to be the norm from now on

When stock normalizes PS5 is gonna be smashing xbone by margins greater than that of the PS4 era

Just leave it to microsoft to brag about the most irrelevant shit. It's the most pathetic flex ever

"But we have won 3 quarters out of like 25 in the USA"

It's like some bench warmer bragging that he out scored Michael Jordan in a game that Micheal Jordan didn't even play in

Don't worry though, what goes around comes around, and microsoft will be forced to eat their words on that pathetic flex

Yeah good point. It's been noticeable how much more available the Series X has been compared to the PS5 over in the states (and the Series S is always available), and I think it's clear that demand for the PS5 was higher. The fact that we weren't even given a percentage also tells you that any margin Xbox had was slight.

It's honestly just trolling at this point, belongs in the console war thread, but that's just my opinion.

 

[adamsapple]

It's honestly just trolling at this point, belongs in the console war thread, but that's just my opinion.

Yes, Savant's posts are. Agreed

Haha I didn't include GOW and Spider-Man my friend. The other guy did. I just responded to the games he included.

You're from Karachi right ? I faintly recall you mentioning something like that on GAF.

 

[arvfab]

That "Sony game template" meme is real.

Oh yeah, that Sony AAA masterpiece, GotY template. I love it.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Yes, Savant's posts are. Agreed




You're from Karachi right ? I faintly recall you mentioning something like that on GAF.

I am where are you from?

 

[adamsapple]

I am where are you from?

Born and raised 28 years but now living in the States.

 

[Heisenberg007]

Born and raised 28 years but now living in the States.

Oh, nice!

Once I get an Xbox -- or you get a PS5 -- we'll play online together!

 

[Legacy Admin]

3rd person action adventure game, there is no variety what so ever. You want to go deeper and break it down, i will gladly destroy you in this debate. You think you know more then me? let's go big shot. I have more gaming knowledge then all of you Sony Pony guys put together. And im not Craig or whoever the hell you think i am, By the looks of things that Craig guy does not really give a fuck and is a profanity machine.. while i do and actually want to help this site with knowledge and unbiased info. And leave them guys out of this they don't need to say a thing to me but they can come watch as i take you down piece by piece with facts and logic.

Craig, get off your pony and stop pretending. You're not that smart, because if you were you'd have installed a free VPN.

Don't waste your second chance.

 

[Sircaw]

3rd person action adventure game, there is no variety what so ever. You want to go deeper and break it down, i will gladly destroy you in this debate. You think you know more then me? let's go big shot. I have more gaming knowledge then all of you Sony Pony guys put together. And im not Craig or whoever the hell you think i am, By the looks of things that Craig guy does not really give a fuck and is a profanity machine.. while i do and actually want to help this site with knowledge and unbiased info. And leave them guys out of this they don't need to say a thing to me but they can come watch as i take you down piece by piece with facts and logic.

What happened to Dpad, i thought you were moving there, did they not want you or something?

@Explosive Zombie come on Zombie explain yourself, why is Craig of war back here on these forums, Why did you reject him over there?

 

[ethomaz]

D-par is very boring I read some threads there in the past… not worth the time.

More boring yet is InstallBase… man here with few users is way more active than there lol

You are welcome again @The Legendary Warrior just don’t lose the line

 

[TubzGaming]

Craig, get off your pony and stop pretending. You're not that smart, because if you were you'd have installed a free VPN.

Don't waste your second chance.