I second this. @Welfare , any analysis you wish to provide on the new Forza's market performance in UK?
[UK Charts] The new Forza Motorsport failed to reach the Top 20 in its debut week
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I second this. @Welfare , any analysis you wish to provide on the new Forza's market performance in UK?
It's a shame... Forza used to be my favorite game on Xbox. It used to be a pretty big deal..
Look at what PC ports and day 1 gamepass did to it!
This is a big warning to PlayStation and their "vision" for the future. When games are available everywhere, they are valued less.
Look at what PC ports and day 1 gamepass did to it!
This is a big warning to PlayStation and their "vision" for the future. When games are available everywhere, they are valued less.
Not Franchise fatigue. They simply made the Horizon spinoff the only Forza people should be playing.
Oh, they've finally start to talk about it :
UK Sales: Week 41, 2023 (Oct 08 - Oct 14)
Physical charts Week 41 First tidbits Full reports https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2023/10/uk-charts-mario-plus-rabbids-sparks-of-hope-hops-into-top-ten-as-ea-sports-fc-keeps-a-clean-sheet The latest not-FIFA title sees its third week in first place (the Switch still only accounts for...
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Somewhere between 17 and a million.
You know that it has ZERO to do with PC ports and everything to do with MS making everything into a low-effort commodity, stop being so disingenuous.
I hate PC gaming, but I don’t make blatantly wrong statements to try to conflate a corporate culture that kills creativity with what platforms a game ships on. If you were right, all the third-party games that ship multiplat day one would be as shitty as MS first-party offerings.
It's more Microsofts overall vision but PC plays a part in that, where they want to be everything to everybody, to be everywhere and it results in less focus on the game and its identity and quality.
Maybe I phrased it in a way that targeted the PC element too much but right now, it is a great danger for PlayStation IMO.... PC and the creep of live-service / engagement based gaming is something I don't want infecting PlayStation.
I hope you understand me now.
Multiplat and exclusives from platform holders are treated different by the martket.
If Mario Wonder was on Switch and PC Day 1 I would not even buy it. It would be just another release I can ignore.
Exclusives like Spider-Man 2 and Mario are like an event for your platform. I don't know how to explain but that's just the way it is.
When we talk about Playstation we talk about their exclusives even if pretty much every 3rd-party is on PS too.
You’re still completely off-base with that assertion, especially when PS ports are after the PS5 release.
Guess Forza Horizon has overtaken Motorsport as the de facto Forza series now.
Huge compared with what?
I remember no Forza in 360 days crossed 5 million sold for example.
GT5 alone did over 14 million.
GT6 (considered a huge failure) did over 6 million.
There is a reason why MS shift focus to the spin-off Forza Horizon... since first Forza Horizon it sold better than Forza Motorsport.
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That has not much to do with PC ports.
It is all about Gamepass model imo.
Remember what I said several years ago? How you will pay AAA games with the Gamepass model?
The options are to decrease AAA budget making it like some AA budget and focus on GaaS / Episodic models.
With Gamepass you won't see big quality games from MS anymore... maybe some exceptions will exists but they will take more and more years to launch.
GT5 menu and ingame soundtracks all ready justified the purchase
Forza Horizon is the better franchise. It's probably eating into Motorsport popularity because people have been playing a racer on Xbox since 2021.
I think FH5 has over 36M players now. It's done more to reach a wider audience than Motorsport has.