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And Japan disagrees with you. Invoking Capcom was a dumb move on your part.

14:1 PlayStation to PC ratio in Japan for their flagship franchise. Oof that's gotta hurt your credibility.


Japanese people buy more Japanese games for PC than for PS because Japanese games for PlayStation are censored, while for PC they are not. Sony force Japanese developers to censor their games. Only stupid PS fanboys can support such Sony policy.

 

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Japanese people buy more Japanese games for PC than for PS because Japanese games for PlayStation are censored, while for PC they are not. Sony force Japanese developers to censor their games. Only stupid PS fanboys can support such Sony policy.


Not really.

Anything with gore gets censored to extreme levels in Japan. Look at RE2 Remake for example, that's a japanese game. They're just as censor happy as the west.

In the west, nudity is a no go. In Japan it's gore. (and ironically, porn)
 
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Not really.

Anything with gore gets censored to extreme levels in Japan. Look at RE2 Remake for example, that's a japanese game. They're just as censor happy as the west.

In the west, nudity is a no go. In Japan it's gore. (and ironically, porn)
It is interesting that the PC and Nintendo versions of the Japanese games are not censored, while the PS versions are.



 

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Selling better than Xbox is really low metric. But Switch is at the end of its lifecycle so, of course sales are crap



Didn't proved. Switch 2 even wouldn't be low mid tier power for handheld. You can bet it that big AA/AAA games will avoid Switch 2 just like it happened for Switch this gen. The further development of GPU technology follows the development of graphics and vice versa. And Switch 2 isn't there and won't be there. PS6 will be. But don't worry, Switch 2 will be gold mine for indies, same as Switch.



And games with modern and advanced graphics can have that too, yes. I mean, i loved the Control with advanced physics and destruction. It is soooo fun.
Well how about this.
From April to June of 2024 The Switch sold 2.1 million units
and in the same time period the PS5 sold 2.4 Million units.

being 7 years old and only being outsold by the PS5 last quarter by only 300k units is pretty impressive I would say
 
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It is interesting that the PC and Nintendo versions of the Japanese games are not censored, while the PS versions are.




I know that Sony likes to censor games but Japan itself also does it when it comes to gore. So no, not every japanese game is only censored on Playstation. Resident Evil is censored on all platforms in Japan for example.
 

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Well how about this.
From April to June of 2024 The Switch sold 2.1 million units
and in the same time period the PS5 sold 2.4 Million units.

being 7 years old and only being outsold by the PS5 last quarter by only 300k units is pretty impressive I would say

It is. But....ti is cheaper by +100%
 

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PlayStation fanboys would disagree with the Capcom


Yes. But well, it's true that for several other top 3rd party publishers PS is their main platform. Depending on the AAA company, their main platform is PC or PS. It also depends if the company has a history more of PC games (like CD Projekt) or if comes from being mostly console only (as was Capcom in the past, until in recent years pushed more the PC).
 

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Every so often we get dungeon master on an alt - can't remember his OG account - tell us how PC and Nintendo are the only worthwhile platforms. The seething jealousy over a console that killed his precious Nintendo's console dreams and relegated them to the handheld arena will never not be funny.
 

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It is. But....ti is cheaper by +100%
Okay but the point is that as of the last quarter the Nintendo Switch was not too far off the PS5 in terms of worldwide sales and this is despite the PS5 having:
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
Stellar Blade
HellDivers II
Tekken 8
Like A Dragon
TLOU 2 Remastered

While Switch has none of those and this has been a really light year for Nintendo output wise as well.
But if were going to include price into the equation just remember what you get for the hardware for the Switch is no where near the value you get for a PS5 and yet consumers are still buying switches like crazy. I don't think there was ever any system that sold 2.1 million a quarter after its 7 year Anniversary.
 

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And Japan disagrees with you. Invoking Capcom was a dumb move on your part.

14:1 PlayStation to PC ratio in Japan for their flagship franchise. Oof that's gotta hurt your credibility.


you do realize that Monster Hunter World was a PS4 exclusive in Japan from January 26th, 2018 to August 9th, 2018 right?

Before the PC version even launched the PS4 version of Monster Hunter World got a value pack (4,990 yen): and another PS4 pack in bundle https://www.gematsu.com/2018/07/ps4-monster-hunter-world-value-pack-announced-for-japan

Also don't forget Monster Hunter Iceborne (and the Master Edition including the Monster Hunter World and Iceborne in one pack.) was also a late release on PC as well. It launched before the Holidays on September 6th, 2019 while steam didn't get it until January 9th, 2020.




Those leaked capcom numbers were back in 2020 and 3 years before the steam version got a huge boost from the Monster Hunter Wilds new: https://www.pcgamer.com/monster-hun...hest-concurrent-player-count-in-over-3-years/

This time around with Monster Hunter Wilds not being a PS5 exclusive in Japan and launching day one on PC I wouldn't expect the PS5 version to have such a huge jump over the PC version considering:

1. like I said above, Day one PC release.

2. PS5 sales have slowed down drastically in Japan the past month thanks to the price hike. The PS5 is about to fall behind the PS4 if the pro doesn't move units in Japan: https://www.installbaseforum.com/th...s-week-38-2024-sep-16-sep-22.3037/post-278228

Even if the PS5 gets a huge boost hardware wise before February of next year. Software sales in Japan for PS5 have not been great this gen. FF XVI is the best selling PS5 game we know of and it is under half a million physical copies sold. Monster Hunter World on PS4 sold 2.85 million physically on PS4 and I wouldn't bet on Wilds can do that on PS5. Seeing as RE8 Village if Capcom's best selling PS5 title only did this in it's opening week in Japan:
 

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you do realize that Monster Hunter World was a PS4 exclusive in Japan from January 26th, 2018 to August 9th, 2018 right?

Before the PC version even launched the PS4 version of Monster Hunter World got a value pack (4,990 yen): and another PS4 pack in bundle https://www.gematsu.com/2018/07/ps4-monster-hunter-world-value-pack-announced-for-japan

Also don't forget Monster Hunter Iceborne (and the Master Edition including the Monster Hunter World and Iceborne in one pack.) was also a late release on PC as well. It launched before the Holidays on September 6th, 2019 while steam didn't get it until January 9th, 2020.




Those leaked capcom numbers were back in 2020 and 3 years before the steam version got a huge boost from the Monster Hunter Wilds new: https://www.pcgamer.com/monster-hun...hest-concurrent-player-count-in-over-3-years/

This time around with Monster Hunter Wilds not being a PS5 exclusive in Japan and launching day one on PC I wouldn't expect the PS5 version to have such a huge jump over the PC version considering:

1. like I said above, Day one PC release.

2. PS5 sales have slowed down drastically in Japan the past month thanks to the price hike. The PS5 is about to fall behind the PS4 if the pro doesn't move units in Japan: https://www.installbaseforum.com/th...s-week-38-2024-sep-16-sep-22.3037/post-278228

Even if the PS5 gets a huge boost hardware wise before February of next year. Software sales in Japan for PS5 have not been great this gen. FF XVI is the best selling PS5 game we know of and it is under half a million physical copies sold. Monster Hunter World on PS4 sold 2.85 million physically on PS4 and I wouldn't bet on Wilds can do that on PS5. Seeing as RE8 Village if Capcom's best selling PS5 title only did this in it's opening week in Japan:

I wouldn't take the battle to discounted unit sales. That's, by all measures, the only advantage PC has. Average revenue per user is incredibly low on PC because full priced games just don't sell. Where would a business rather be? It's clear based on how much nearly every single one of them favours consoles and PlayStation in particular.
 

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I wouldn't take the battle to discounted unit sales. That's, by all measures, the only advantage PC has. Average revenue per user is incredibly low on PC because full priced games just don't sell. Where would a business rather be? It's clear based on how much nearly every single one of them favours consoles and PlayStation in particular.
well tell that to Capcom who is going all in on trying to make PC 50% of their business.
and even reached that already on one quarter.

More of their business is from PC than PlayStation despite all the marketing deals they have had in the past.

Also I seeing how many times game go on sale on PSN or even in retail store I really doubt most console gamers buy their games at full price.
last game I brought at full price on PlayStation was God of War Ragnorok in November 2022.
But PC does have the benefit for Capcom of being mostly digital (In some territories they do produce physical PC copies.) meaning they don't have to worry about second hand used sale copies which Capcom probably prefers.
 

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well tell that to Capcom who is going all in on trying to make PC 50% of their business.
and even reached that already on one quarter.

More of their business is from PC than PlayStation despite all the marketing deals they have had in the past.

Also I seeing how many times game go on sale on PSN or even in retail store I really doubt most console gamers buy their games at full price.
last game I brought at full price on PlayStation was God of War Ragnorok in November 2022.
But PC does have the benefit for Capcom of being mostly digital (In some territories they do produce physical PC copies.) meaning they don't have to worry about second hand used sale copies which Capcom probably prefers.
Capcom isn't the industry, but Capcom also has PC-only games in Asia which drive most of that discrepancy. The fact of the matter is AAA games don't sell on PC like they do on proper platforms like Switch and PlayStation. We have stats from major markets which show PC going head to head with Xbox
 
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God of War Ragnarok is going to be a case study on the power of the PS5 Pro.

Ragnarok has quite a few modes

Fidelity and Performance but also High Frame Rate and a 40hz quality mode.

In theory in the HFR mode, you could maybe hit a locked 120 fps with PS5 Pro Boost mode.

What would be missing is a 60 fps fidelity mode or unlocked fidelity mode. This should be a simple patch to create one or two more modes. HFR fidelity and 60 fps fidelity.