We Desperately Need a Playstation Showcase

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Considering we have a packed Q1 and several games announced for the year (the release dates can just be a simple tweet, video, or blog post), we really do not need a Showcase at this point.
yeah, i agree, just do State of Play, 5min GranBlue, 15min normal introduction of Ronin, highlight some Indies. that's it. short, informative, we know what is going on enough. next SoP in the end of the March. boom, easy peasy :D
 
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Outside of Concord we dont know any other titles with even a rough release date from PS studios. There is plenty of reasons to have a showcase.
They should announce what games Are coming for 2024, 2025, 2026 from PS studios. You know, like they always have.
There are 5 PS Studios titles scheduled for this year so far:
  1. TLOU 2 Remastered (Jan 19, 2024)
  2. Helldivers 2 (February 08, 2024)
  3. Rise of the Ronin (March 22, 2024)
  4. Concord (TBA)
  5. Stellar Blade (TBA)
So we know 3 release dates; we need 2 more. Those dates can again be simple tweets, videos, or posts. The year is pretty much mapped out, but I know there will be more.

I believe that Sony would like buy some time with smaller State of Plays until late Summer. Then host a big Showcase that could show the upcoming titles (Ghost of Tsushima 2, Naughty Dog's next, Santa Monica's next, etc.) on a PS5 Pro.
 

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I agree its been 3 years and a half (June 2020 showcase) since we had a showcase that revealed and announced multiple 1st party games ( 9 in total were announced). All the games announced during that showcase and the one in September 2020 have released ( Spiderman 2 has also released but that was announced in September 2021). Only Wolverine hasnt released yet. The first phase of first party exclusives have all released. Its well overdue that we start to see what Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Team Asobi, Bluepoint, Suckerpunch, Bend and Firesprite have been working on. Naughty Dog have been working on two sp games for a while, Cory Barlog has been working on a new ip for a while and an Atreus game might have been in the works since November 2022, Bluepoint have been working on a game since they released Demon Souls Remake in November 2020, Suckerpunch have been working on Ghost of Tsushima 2 for a while now,

Bend havent released anything since 2019 and they have been working on a new ip. Firesprite are working on multiple games one of them is a survival horror game. Team Asobi havent released anything since Astro Playroom in Nov 2020 and they probably have been working on a new Astro game. Also forgot to add Housemarque who released Returnal nearly 3 years ago now and they have been working on a new ip since then
 

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So many of Sony's 2024 line up is still a mystery and even the games we do know about don't have a release date. It's been forever since we had a proper showcase. Sony fans have been starving for any sort of News. The constant silence from Playstation studios has only made us fans more desperate for news.

Sony please announce something already, for once just communicate with your loyal fans!

Studios MIA:
- Bend (since April 2019)
- Naughty Dog (since June 2020)
- Team Asobi (since November 2020)
- Bluepoint (since November 2020)
- Sucker Punch (since August 2021)

Announced for 2024:
Helldivers 2 (Feb 9th)
Concord
Rise of Ronin
Lost Soul Aside
MLB: The Show 2024
I agree its been 3 years and a half (June 2020 showcase) since we had a showcase that revealed and announced multiple 1st party games ( 9 in total were announced). All the games announced during that showcase and the one in September 2020 have released ( Spiderman 2 has also released but that was announced in September 2021). Only Wolverine hasnt released yet. The first phase of first party exclusives have all released. Its well overdue that we start to see what Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Team Asobi, Bluepoint, Suckerpunch, Bend and Firesprite have been working on. Naughty Dog have been working on two sp games for a while, Cory Barlog has been working on a new ip for a while and an Atreus game might have been in the works since November 2022, Bluepoint have been working on a game since they released Demon Souls Remake in November 2020, Suckerpunch have been working on Ghost of Tsushima 2 for a while now,

Bend havent released anything since 2019 and they have been working on a new ip. Firesprite are working on multiple games one of them is a survival horror game. Team Asobi havent released anything since Astro Playroom in Nov 2020 and they probably have been working on a new Astro game. Also forgot to add Housemarque who released Returnal nearly 3 years ago now and they have been working on a new ip since then
Bend yes, they just started working on their new game in 2022. ND, idk they wasted 4 years on Factions 2, but why not Sucker Punch? July 2024 will be 4 years since Ghost of Tsushima came out, we should get an announcement for GoT 2 sometime this year, with hopefully a 2025 release date.
What were they doing for 3 years then since Days Gone in 2019?
Bend, ND, Sucker Punch, Bluepoint all released there last game before 2020.
Outside of Concord we dont know any other titles with even a rough release date from PS studios. There is plenty of reasons to have a showcase.
They should announce what games Are coming for 2024, 2025, 2026 from PS studios. You know, like they always have.

After April 2019 Bend released DG post launch free content and its PC port. After it supported ND with TLOU Online and an unknown Uncharted spinoff game, and around 2021-2022 they started a new Bend IP. 2024 will be too early to announce it.

Since 2020 ND released the Uncharted collection (+PC port), TLOUP1 (+ PC port) and next week TLOU2 Remaster. ND also has been working on the cancelled TLOU Online and two unannounced SP games.

Bluepoint released God of War Ragnarok in November 2022. The entire Bluepoint studio was working on GoWR after Demon's Souls, they weren't working in other game until they released GoWR. If Bluepoint announces something this year will be that they are supporting other game leaded by other studio.

Firesprite released Horizon CoM in February 2023, they are working on a MP game that includes car combat, and a narrative dark horror adventure.

In addition to Helldivers 2, Concord, Rise of the Ronin, MLB and Lost Soul Aside hey also have Stellar Blade and Convallaria announced for 2024. Plus Marathon, Death Stranding 2 and Fairgame$ that very likely will be released in 2025. And Wolverine for 2026.

SSM said that they are done with the Nordic arc, that there won't be GoWR DLCs and that in the next GoW Kratos will visit a new mythology. We assume they are also working on a new IP pitched by Cory, but we don't know if it's the case because it isn't confirmed.

Team Asobi said to be working on a 3D action platformer with humor that is bigger than their previous Astro games, in addition to multiple prototypes. They didn't mention if it's going to be an Astro game or not.

There are 5 PS Studios titles scheduled for this year so far:
  1. TLOU 2 Remastered (Jan 19, 2024)
  2. Helldivers 2 (February 08, 2024)
  3. Rise of the Ronin (March 22, 2024)
  4. Concord (TBA)
  5. Stellar Blade (TBA)
So we know 3 release dates; we need 2 more. Those dates can again be simple tweets, videos, or posts. The year is pretty much mapped out, but I know there will be more.

I believe that Sony would like buy some time with smaller State of Plays until late Summer. Then host a big Showcase that could show the upcoming titles (Ghost of Tsushima 2, Naughty Dog's next, Santa Monica's next, etc.) on a PS5 Pro.
To be exact, Concord and Stellar Blade aren't TBA, they have "2024" as date. But yes, they still don't have specific release date announced.

After GoT Sucker Punch released GoT Legends, the PS5/DC version and the Ikki Island DLC, ending around mid 2021. Considering GoT2 may take like 6 years, it may be too soon to announce GoT2 in 2024. I think that in 2020 they'll announce a GoT PC port instead plus a first trailer of the movie.

Whoever replaces Jimbo, I hope he at least communicates with fans. One thing I always hated about Jimbo is the deafening silence.
They already communicate with fans.

If someone doesn't watch their showcases, PS Plays, their blog, their social media, their youtube channel plus other events where they also shown stuff like the Doritos events, or saw them but acts like an authistic or gaming flatearther saying they never existed it isn't Sony's issue.
🙄 like all the announced stuff isn’t tied to Jim. After April are ppl supposed to forgot Jim existed? The casuals never knew who Jim was same with Shawn. It’s only the hardcore that remembers.
Even some hardcore think Shawn has the CEO of SIE or president of Worldwide Studios (now PS Studios), when he never had these positions.
 
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While it's currently heavily rumored, Sony is going to have a State of Play in the next few weeks which makes sense since they have Helldivers 2, Final Fantasy VII Rebirth and Rise of the Ronin to show off. Granted, it's not a PlayStation Showcase like everyone wants but to be honest, im not expecting one until September when they announce/reveal the PlayStation 5 Pro and then have a few of their studios that everyone has been waiting for to reveal their games running off the Pro. I do see a second State of Play for May/June but Showcase level, im sticking with September 2024 which has been my prediction after last year's showcase simply because you can see that their studios which happen to be those that everyone is waiting to see just aren't quite ready yet to reveal what they've been working on. I do believe that the showcase will be worth the wait in my opinion.

My thing is, the Showcases aren't just about 1P studios; yes they're a critical component but so too are the big 3P games, including 3P exclusives.

If Sony weren't giving up content for Geoff's Summer Games Fest, they could probably have enough for a modestly sized State of Play in the first half of the year, AND a Showcase in the second half of the year. At the very least, if they want to concede content to other shows that should ideally be at PlayStation events, fold your Showcase into those other events and have those reveals under PlayStation branding, which would be attached to those shows.

That way, all parties involved win. But with the way things are at current, if SIE are ceding big 3P content to other shows (like the FF VII Rebirth reveal for Summer Games Fest), they run the risk of other State of Plays being underwhelming, unless there's a LOT of content from 1P and 3P partners (in a 2P capacity) they're holding out on revealing. We'll have to see about that, particularly in regards to any events this year, but that's the only way I feel ceding 3P content for these other shows without at least folding their own events into said shows, actually works out for the best.

As for holding stuff back for the PS5 Pro reveal...honestly if GTA6 is launching Q1 2025 (I think it probably will), why would Sony need to hold a ton of 1P for a Showcase to demo it off when simply one such game alongside GTA6 gameplay on a PS5 Pro would more than demonstrate what the hardware can do? I kinda don't like the idea of holding back on so much 1P/3P exclusive content just to effectively push the PS5 Pro; that system will sell itself on the merits of the performance boosts provided, plus it's not like it's going to suddenly account for half of all new PS5 console sales. That's not what it was designed for.

But if you want to show it off, get that GTA6 gameplay reveal going and one other 1P AAA game running on it, then you can just show the performance boosts provided to current PS5 releases to pad that out. Assuming it's a Showcase though, yeah you'd expect a few more 1P & 3P exclusives to be shown off as well, probably with versions on PS5 and PS5 Pro.
 

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As a PlayStation fan Sony really does need to come out with a show that makes us excited for what’s coming because we are entering the half time of the generation and all we have to get excited about for second half of 24 and beyond are cgi trailers for two gaas games.

There’s Death Stranding 2, which I forgot for some reason.
 
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My thing is, the Showcases aren't just about 1P studios; yes they're a critical component but so too are the big 3P games, including 3P exclusives.

If Sony weren't giving up content for Geoff's Summer Games Fest, they could probably have enough for a modestly sized State of Play in the first half of the year, AND a Showcase in the second half of the year. At the very least, if they want to concede content to other shows that should ideally be at PlayStation events, fold your Showcase into those other events and have those reveals under PlayStation branding, which would be attached to those shows.

That way, all parties involved win. But with the way things are at current, if SIE are ceding big 3P content to other shows (like the FF VII Rebirth reveal for Summer Games Fest), they run the risk of other State of Plays being underwhelming, unless there's a LOT of content from 1P and 3P partners (in a 2P capacity) they're holding out on revealing. We'll have to see about that, particularly in regards to any events this year, but that's the only way I feel ceding 3P content for these other shows without at least folding their own events into said shows, actually works out for the best.

As for holding stuff back for the PS5 Pro reveal...honestly if GTA6 is launching Q1 2025 (I think it probably will), why would Sony need to hold a ton of 1P for a Showcase to demo it off when simply one such game alongside GTA6 gameplay on a PS5 Pro would more than demonstrate what the hardware can do? I kinda don't like the idea of holding back on so much 1P/3P exclusive content just to effectively push the PS5 Pro; that system will sell itself on the merits of the performance boosts provided, plus it's not like it's going to suddenly account for half of all new PS5 console sales. That's not what it was designed for.

But if you want to show it off, get that GTA6 gameplay reveal going and one other 1P AAA game running on it, then you can just show the performance boosts provided to current PS5 releases to pad that out. Assuming it's a Showcase though, yeah you'd expect a few more 1P & 3P exclusives to be shown off as well, probably with versions on PS5 and PS5 Pro.
I think they will announce the PS Pro in a dedicated PS blog with photos and hardware specs. No Sony game announcements or trailers released that day. I think maximum that day we could see a comparision video where they show already released games comparing their PS5 and PS5 Pro versions (if they will have a Pro patch or if they will be favored by resolution or FPS boost).
 

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My thing is, the Showcases aren't just about 1P studios; yes they're a critical component but so too are the big 3P games, including 3P exclusives.

If Sony weren't giving up content for Geoff's Summer Games Fest, they could probably have enough for a modestly sized State of Play in the first half of the year, AND a Showcase in the second half of the year. At the very least, if they want to concede content to other shows that should ideally be at PlayStation events, fold your Showcase into those other events and have those reveals under PlayStation branding, which would be attached to those shows.

That way, all parties involved win. But with the way things are at current, if SIE are ceding big 3P content to other shows (like the FF VII Rebirth reveal for Summer Games Fest), they run the risk of other State of Plays being underwhelming, unless there's a LOT of content from 1P and 3P partners (in a 2P capacity) they're holding out on revealing. We'll have to see about that, particularly in regards to any events this year, but that's the only way I feel ceding 3P content for these other shows without at least folding their own events into said shows, actually works out for the best.

As for holding stuff back for the PS5 Pro reveal...honestly if GTA6 is launching Q1 2025 (I think it probably will), why would Sony need to hold a ton of 1P for a Showcase to demo it off when simply one such game alongside GTA6 gameplay on a PS5 Pro would more than demonstrate what the hardware can do? I kinda don't like the idea of holding back on so much 1P/3P exclusive content just to effectively push the PS5 Pro; that system will sell itself on the merits of the performance boosts provided, plus it's not like it's going to suddenly account for half of all new PS5 console sales. That's not what it was designed for.

But if you want to show it off, get that GTA6 gameplay reveal going and one other 1P AAA game running on it, then you can just show the performance boosts provided to current PS5 releases to pad that out. Assuming it's a Showcase though, yeah you'd expect a few more 1P & 3P exclusives to be shown off as well, probably with versions on PS5 and PS5 Pro.

Oh no.....im seeing LONG posts and debates in my future!! Haha. lol. Hope all is well with you Thicc!! :)

I agree with the third party multi-platform games in which Sony gets/has the marketing rights for as well as timed/full exclusivity. I did say that im expecting a State of Play in February and May/June but Showcase wise, I think they wait until September. They can always reveal a big third party game on a State of Play and then show gameplay during the showcase. I agree in regards to the branding and attaching to Keighley and Game Fest. Outside of 2020 during Covid, I don't think Sony has done that at all. They tend to be like Nintendo, do their own thing when they want to.

I'm expecting GTA VI to be a September 2025 release. I can see it being dated for early 2025 but every Rockstar game always gets delayed at least once and I don't think GTA VI would be any different. Also, them saying "coming 2025" tells me that Rockstar/Take Two doesn't know yet. I can see it being on the PlayStation Showcase but at the same time, it wouldn't shock me to not see it there because Rockstar does have a history of doing their own shit.

I don't think that they would be holding back their first party content for the Pro, just that it will align with them revealing it because the studios will then be ready to show it. For example, im fully expecting Tsushima 2 to be revealed in 2024 but not until September because first, I just don't think Sony's studios are ready yet especially when we all know that Sony wants their games to look amazing when they reveal them but will align with the Pro but also in this example, Sony has Rise of the Ronin which is very similar and Sony would be better off waiting until the Fall to reveal Tsushima 2.

It's not that they only need 1 or maybe 2 games to showcase the Pro, I think it's more that the studios will have half of 2024 to get the games ready to be revealed and the hyping of the Pro simply aligns with it. I do believe that Sony will go hard with pushing and marketing the Pro and if you have several games on a showcase showing off the Pro, it will be far more enticing for consumers to upgrade or go with the Pro model as opposed to just seeing maybe 1 or 2 games that some consumers may not care about or have interest in at all.

More than anything, I simply see it as Sony's studios not be ready to reveal their games yet and when they are, it will simply align with the Pro being revealed. If there was no Pro model, my opinion is still the same, September because they're not ready yet. And for third party games, if you look at 2024 right now, April/May/June/July/August are literally empty/dead. There's maybe one game here and one game there which tells me a lot of games will be pushed to 2025 which for the games that are, being shown in September 2024 as opposed to the first half makes more sense especially when publishers are very hesitant on showing their games early unless it's for hiring purposes and because they're not confident on release dates yet.

For the currently rumored State of Play, I can see Helldivers 2, Rebirth, Concord, Ronin being shown along with Dragon's Dogma 2 and maybe Suicide Squad again. They could show Stellar Blade, Lost Soul Aside and other games that are part of their China Hero Project. I can also see a teaser trailer for the second and final DLC for FF XVI. For a State of Play, I don't think that need to go all out.

Personally though, I would rather get an E3 2016 level showcase in September or close to it as opposed to Sony revealing a game or two earlier in the year especially when im not expecting Sony to have a major release in the second half of 2024. But we'll see.
 

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Sony has been working for some time actively against hype for some reason, makes no sense to me.

I personally would love to see what their studios are working and what to expect for the rest of this gen.
 
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Imo, they shouldn't do a show just for the sake of having one. Don't speak until you have something substantial to say.
 

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They were wasting time on a PC port and being a Naughty Dog support studio for a game that was cancelled 🤣
Bit unfair to Bend the way you contextualize this. They lost the creative and game directors. Upper management declined the Days Gone 2 pitch. So they were placed on other projects to avoid lay offs till a new pitch was given the go ahead. An unfortunate situation but they gave a lot of post launch support to Days Gone as well. Probably the best ever for a single player game from PlayStation.
 
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Bit unfair to Bend the way you contextualize this. They lost the creative and game directors. Upper management declined the Days Gone 2 pitch. So they were placed on other projects to avoid lay offs till a new pitch was given the go ahead. An unfortunate situation but they gave a lot of post launch support to Days Gone as well. Probably the best ever for a single player game from PlayStation.
Not a knock against Bend at all, it's a knock against Jim/Sonys leadership
 
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Not a knock against Bend at all, it's a knock against Jim/Sonys leadership

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They actually spent a year giving post launch support to the game, lots of patches and then did the PC version of Days Gone. Then went to work on Factions, helped with TLOU Part 1 and was apparently in the early stages of doing an uncharted game till their New IP pitch was greenlight.
What a waste lol. Should of got an assist studio for the PC port and post lauch support
 

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Considering we have a packed Q1 and several games announced for the year (the release dates can just be a simple tweet, video, or blog post), we really do not need a Showcase at this point.
Showcases exist to sell people on games, so the fact that you do have a lot of "smaller" stuff coming out does mean that you should have one. I'd say late January, since that release slate starts hitting in mid-to-late February.
 

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What a waste lol. Should of got an assist studio for the PC port and post lauch support
Post Launch is normally done by the internal studios though, it was single player content / challenges and patches. As for the PC port it was to keep the devs busy, as how they also were the ones who worked on porting and trophy support of the Syphon Filter games for PS+.
 
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