Why is Insomniac Games Incapable of making a successful new IP?

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Sweet baby jesus, what is this troll thread? I think someone escaped from XboxEra forum
It's pretty much nothing but facts. Ted Price sold Insomniac to Sony for $229 million. This man is a genius. He scammed Sony hard.
A studio with no IPs besides a dying Ratchet & Clank. For almost $230 million. It's crazy, Steve!
 
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Notice how he shifted from Insomniac having trouble with new IP's, to all Sony games are the same, but when they aren't they're DLC.

Notice the other thread this user created named: "It's time for Sony to become a 3rd party publisher", imediatly recognizing that he wants Sony games on other platforms, I'm guessing PC user, with expected port begging.

Notice how his frustration for not being able to play them makes him downplay the quality of the games to justify is poor choice.

Notice how he doesn't share his PSN id.

@Sleepy Brown did I hit the nail in the head?
 
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Notice how he shifted from Insomniac having trouble with new IP's, to all Sony games are the same, but when they aren't they're DLC.

Notice the other thread this user created named: "It's time for Sony to become a 3rd party publisher", imediatly recognizing that he wants Sony games on other platforms, I'm guessing PC user, with expected port begging.

Notice how his frustration for not being able to play them makes him downplay the quality of the games to justify is poor choice.

Notice how he doesn't share his PSN id.

@Sleepy Brown did I hit the nail in the head?
Stop with the Twitter talk and keep the console warring for guys like colteastwood.
Insomniac has a long history of failing to make successful new IPs. Ratchet & Clank is pretty much all they have. Stop deflecting.
There is a reason why they are making licensed Marvel games now. Because games like Resistance, Sunset Overdrive, Fuse, Song of the Deep and their VR games flopped. Now it's Spider-Man, Spider-Man, Spider-Man, Wolverine, Spider-Man;
Did I hit the nail in the head?

Sharing my PSN ID? No thanks.
 
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Stop with the Twitter talk and keep the console warring for guys like colteastwood.
Insomniac has a long history of failing to make successful new IPs. Ratchet & Clank is pretty much all they have. Stop deflecting.
There is a reason why they are making licensed Marvel games now. Because games like Resistance, Sunset Overdrive, Fuse, Song of the Deep and their VR games flopped. Now it's Spider-Man, Spider-Man, Spider-Man, Wolverine, Spider-Man;
Did I hit the nail in the head?

Sharing my PSN ID? No thanks.
What the hell are you saying? Resistance Fall of Men was such a flop they made 4 of them. I guess Sony wants to lose money like that huh?

Sunset Overdrive is a very cool game that flopped(?!) due to being released in an inferior platform where most of it's userbase doesn't know a good game even if it smacked high speed directly in they forehead.

Ratchet and Clank, how many of them are there? 7? 8? right..

I don't know their VR games, but do you have the numbers to say they were a flop?

You don't share your PSN id because you don't have any, so stop with your nonsense.
 
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What the hell are you saying? Resistance Fall of Men was such a flop they made 4 of them. I guess Sony wants to lose money like that huh?
They made 3 of them. Bend Studio made the PSP game because Sony needed some fodder for their handheld.
Sony didn't have a Halo competitor so they asked Guerrilla and Insomniac to keep making these mediocre Killzone and Resistance games. Resistance 3 was the biggest financial flop and Sony finally stopped. It's sad because Resistance was the best game of the series.
Sunset Overdrive is a very cool game that flopped(?!) due to being released in an inferior platform where most of it's userbase doesn't know a good game even if it smacked high speed directly in they forehead.
Sunset flopped because it was Sunset. A mediocre game.
Ratchet and Clank, how many of them are there? 7? 8? right..
All they have. R&C and nothing more.
I don't know their VR games, but do you have the numbers to say they were a flop?
They're VR games, dude. They're flops.
You don't share your PSN id because you don't have any, so stop with your nonsense.
Stop deflecting and stay on topic. Insomniac can't make their own successful IPs. That is a fact. There is a reason why it's all Marvel now.
Just admit it and move on. At least they made Ratchet.
 
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They made 3 of them. Bend Studio made the PSP game because Sony needed some fodder for their handheld.
Sony didn't have a Halo competitor so they asked Guerrilla and Insomniac to keep making these mediocre Killzone and Resistance games. Resistance 3 was the biggest financial flop and Sony finally stopped. It's sad because Resistance was the best game of the series.
Five were made, actually. 1-3 by Insomniac, Retribution by Bend, and Burning Skies by Nihilistic Software. All were good.

Insomniac is also not "all Marvel". Please at least get basic facts right.
 

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Pointing to SSOD and saying it failed and that was Insomniacs fault?

Titanfall was Xbox exclusive and it failed.....
Ryse was an Xbox exclusive and failed....
Quantum Break was an Xbox exclusive and failed.....
Halo 4, 5 and Infinite were Xbox exclusives and failed.....
Grounded failed
Bleeding edge failed
Crackdown failed
Fallout 76 failed
Deathloop failed
Ghostwire failed

So by your logic none of those studios can make original IP's or even just a good game based on an existing, successful IP..... they still fail.

So Xbox's studios along with Zenimax must be completely incompetent.

Criticizing a developer that just sold 33 million plus Spider-man games is not where an Xbox fans energy should be put when you are gameless all this year and probably much of next year too.
 
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Pointing to SSOD and saying it failed and that was Insomniacs fault?

Titanfall was Xbox exclusive and it failed.....
Actually it did pretty good.
Ryse was an Xbox exclusive and failed....
Quantum Break was an Xbox exclusive and failed.....
Halo 4, 5 and Infinite were Xbox exclusives and failed.....
Grounded failed
Bleeding edge failed
Crackdown failed
Fallout 76 failed
Deathloop failed
Ghostwire failed

So by your logic none of those studios can make original IP's or even just a good game based on an existing, successful IP..... they still fail.
Nah it's your logic that makes no sense. Fallout 76 failed? What about the Fallout games before? What about the other Bethesda IPs? Halo 4 and 5 failed? Did you take a look at the sales numbers? Quantum Break? Ever heard of Max Payne or Control?
All Insomniac has is Ratchet & Clank from the PS2 era.
So Xbox's studios along with Zenimax must be completely incompetent.

Criticizing a developer that just sold 33 million plus Spider-man games is not where an Xbox fans energy should be put when you are gameless all this year and probably much of next year too.
Zenimax/Bethesda? The ones who made Fallout, Skyrim, Elder Scrolls etc, and soon Starfield? You serious? Starfield will be huge.
And then you have Insomniac with Ratchte & Clank and nothing else.

The topic is "failing to making their own original IPs." Successful ones.
Insomniac these days is a Marvel factory. Creating games based on IPs they don't own.
 
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Actually it did pretty good.

Nah it's your logic that makes no sense. Fallout 76 failed? What about the Fallout games before? What about the other Bethesda IPs? Halo 4 and 5 failed? Did you take a look at the sales numbers? Quantum Break? Ever heard of Max Payne or Control?
All Insomniac has is Ratchet & Clank from the PS2 era.

Zenimax/Bethesda? The ones who made Fallout, Skyrim, Elder Scrolls etc, and soon Starfield? You serious? Starfield will be huge.
And then you have Insomniac with Ratchte & Clank and nothing else.

The topic is "failing to making their own original IPs." Successful ones.
Insomniac these days is a Marvel factory. Creating games based on IPs they don't own.

Yeah Fallout 76 was a failure...the last game zenimax made that I wanted to play was Skyrim 11 years ago. Get over it. LOL

Resistance was a great series too, sold millions.... made by Insomniac

and you guys were celebrating possibly getting Spyro, one of the most iconic characters in gaming.... also created by Insomniac.

Zenimax hasn't made a new successful IP for over 20 years and Xbox studios is approaching the same type of legacy. They had to buy Halo and buy Gears IP's.
 
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Yeah Fallout 76 was a failure...the last game zenimax made that I wanted to play was Skyrim 11 years ago. Get over it. LOL
Fallout 76 sucked. Yet it is still alive and making money for Bethesda. And more Fallout games will come.
Resistance was a great series too, sold millions.... made by Insomniac
Yeah Resistance as a series flopped. Made by Insomniac.
Titanfall alone, the game you said "failed", sold more than Resistance 1, 2 and 3 combined.
and you guys were celebrating possibly getting Spyro, one of the most iconic characters in gaming.... also created by Insomniac.
Spyro from the PS1 generation? The "dead IP" Spyro? Soon "owned by Microsoft" Spyro? Celebrating? Nah not really. Spyro is a thing of the past.
Zenimax hasn't made a new successful IP for over 20 years and Xbox studios is approaching the same type of legacy.
Because Zenixmax has a lot of successful IPs. From Fallout, to Elder Scrolls and Doom. And now Starfield is coming. A new IP.
They had to buy Halo and buy Gears IP's.
Yeah and now they bought a ton of 1st party studios and 2 publishers. Times have changed.
Activision-Blizzard alone is pretty much bigger than all of PS Studios. They have a ton of devs.

Back on topic. We're talking about Insomniac here and their struggles to create a new successful IP.
They are a Marvel factory right now.
 
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Yes, sure, that's the reason. A Jim Sterling review.

Do you need more non-Sterling reviews? Do you praise all Nihilistic masterpieces? Like Call of Duty: Black Ops: Declassified for example?

Yeah I'm not giving this guy any more attention on this topic. He's clearly trolling for attention.
Sure. If this makes you feel better. This won't help Insomniac though.
 
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I don’t agree with the premise that Insom are incapable of making a successful new IP, but I do agree with the criticism that they’ve got a modular game design template that is one of the reasons for their efficiency.
 
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sunset overdrive is the only game i'll miss from xbox one. christ, that console was so terrible i just gave it away for free. :LOL:

xbox one is definetly going down in history as one of the worst systems of all time. it's telling as a game collector that Ngage has more of a collecting scene around it than Xbox One. Ngage has a better exclusive lineup, sure, but Xbox One is especially dire, and the discs especially worthless. That entire generation (7 years) is a write-off for MS and MS game studios. They produced entirely nothing of value, except Sunset.... which Sony now owns.

tough break.
 
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