Will the Playstation Portal outsell the Steamdeck?

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That would make it very interesting. Do we know the cpu on the thing? What sort of emu’s can it run?
I have no idea, but nowadays emulation is very powerful -even in Android- and runs great even in super weak stuff like a Raspberry Pi.
 
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It doesn’t need too many.

Steam Dexk sales are abysmal.
Abysmal is harsh lol, the steam deck selling 2-3 million is pretty good for what it is. It's a niche device, not a psp/switch competitor at all and those metrics of success shouldn't be applied to the Deck
 
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I'd say you can pretty likely emulate up to PS2, PSP, Dreamcast/Naomi, N64 stuff at full framerate. Not sure about more modern/harder to emulate stuff.

Doubtful anything above PS2 gen is doable.

Then again even Steamdeck struggles with PS3.
 

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Doubtful anything above PS2 gen is doable.

Then again even Steamdeck struggles with PS3.
Yes, forget PS3. I was thinking instead on stuff like maybe GameCube, Saturn or OG Xbox. Which often get more issues to be properly emulated and require more powerful stuff. Pretty likely these platforms -or at least their most demanding game- wouldn't run there at full performance.
 
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Abysmal is harsh lol, the steam deck selling 2-3 million is pretty good for what it is. It's a niche device, not a psp/switch competitor at all and those metrics of success shouldn't be applied to the Deck
These are excuses for low sales 🤷‍♂️
And still PCMR keep claiming they have the biggest gaming userbase in the world lol

But I will let what they said when asked by journos about the "multiple millions":

Coomer said Valve isn't ready to reveal Steam Deck sales numbers, but it's successful enough for Valve to expand its business as a hardware developer.
 
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These are excuses for low sales 🤷‍♂️
And still PCMR keep claiming they have the biggest gaming userbase in the world lol
Honestly I have one and I like it.

There is a shit ton of flaws with the device so I can definitely see why there is only a small userbase who are interested in buying a handheld to play PC games. 1h of battery is just too funny.
 
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Honestly I have one and I like it.

There is a shit ton of flaws with the device so I can definitely see why there is only a small userbase who are interested in buying a handheld to play PC games. 1h of battery is just too funny.
I think these devices great.
It is basically what you can have in a portable way with a near acceptable form factor (Steam Deck is still a bit bigger than a normal portable form).
I think the battery is related with going AMD APU and the size.

Maybe if they had choose ARM that issue should be solved.

For exemple if any of these companies do a similar Apple M1 APU for a portable device then you will get a winner in size and battery.
That I believe was a lack of vision from Valve... they should had made SteamOS ARM based if they really intended to continue in the portable hardware business.

New x86 APUs are not fixing the size and power draw and process node is not moving faster anymore... from 10nm to 5nm they are very similar... it just a marketing "name"... the size being the key point for the names was killed a long time ago.... 7nm should be half of 14nm... in simple terms it should can have double the amount of transistors in the same size but what you see is 7nm being 10-20% smaller... 5nm 10-20% smaller than 7nm.

x86 technology is not helping these devices.
 
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I think these devices great.
It is basically what you can have in a portable way with a near acceptable form factor (Steam Deck is still a bit bigger than a normal portable form).
I think the battery is related with going AMD APU and the size.

Maybe if they had choose ARM that issue should be solved.

For exemple if any of these companies do a similar Apple M1 APU for a portable device then you will get a winner in size and battery.
That I believe was a lack of vision from Valve... they should had made SteamOS ARM based.
I mean with ARM they have to make a compatibility layer to run x86 games. Even Apple couldn't pull that off perfectly. That was a lot of R&D budget put into Rossetta 2, probably more than market cap of Valve.

Also they have to find a vendor.

Who offer good SoC with ARM CPU and great GPU? There is one and that mf is really annoying to deal with.
 

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I mean with ARM they have to make a compatibility layer to run x86 games. Even Apple couldn't pull that off perfectly. That was a lot of R&D budget put into Rossetta 2, probably more than market cap of Valve.

Also they have to find a vendor.

Who offer good SoC with ARM CPU and great GPU? There is one and that mf is really annoying to deal with.
I meant more when they started to work on SteamOS.
They core of Linux runs fine on ARM.... well Linux runs fine on ARM.
They should had put effort in make the SteamOS works on ARM instead x86.... instead works all these years in a compatibility layer to Windows... they could had worked in one for ARM instead.
But they sailed on that a long time ago.

But that is just my ideias... it won't change anything.
 
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