Microsoft cautions developers to avoid curvy female characters

[Shmunter]

Some people here are being denial of sweet baby inch already have a grip at certain part of playstation studios

Theyre on acepting stage now its quite saddening to see them becoming like this

Sweet Baby inc is just fixation for convo of a wider matter. They’re hardly the only ones, and let’s not pretend the corp hiring them doesn’t have synergies either…

This is a massive growth sector and a cash cow to many like striking a new gold mine. They will get their tendrils in everywhere to exploit a trend…..

“Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) has seen remarkable growth over the past decade. Once relegated to a sub-component within human resources, DEI has now evolved into a core business function. Despite the economic impact of COVID-19, DEI-related job postings increased by 123% between May and September of 20201. Organizations recognize the urgency of advancing DEI, especially as the workforce becomes more diverse. However, challenges remain, including the need for strategic investments, data collection, and accountability for change2. The global market for DEI is projected to reach $15.4 billion by 2026, growing at a CAGR of 12.6%3. As companies invest in DEI staffing and specialists, the role of DEI officers dedicated to improving organizational diversity is flourishing4. “

 

[ToTTenTranz]

And black people existed in northern Europe THOUSANDS of years ago.

You keep repeating this nonsense as if it was true.

Depictions of black people are scarce in northern Europe for obvious reasons. There might have been individuals or small groups of black slaves, workers and even some wandering explorers during the Roman Empire, but there was never any relevant social interaction, households or villages made up of blacks.

Whatever agenda-pushed bullshit some game journos try to push constantly, is easily debunked by all the large-scale genetics studies made within Europe.


There's nothing wrong with facing the truth about different skin colors being much more segregated in a world without a long haul navy, planes and automobiles.
Nordics made up the Nordic Gods, and they obviously envisioned their gods with the same skin color as themselves. It's not because 5 vikings saw a black man during a trade trip that their clerics would decide that one of their gods was black after all. They obviously didn't.





But if you really think this isn't about political agendas, just imagine the meltdown from the same people defending a black Angrboda if someone decided to portray a Nigerian Orixá as a blond dude with blue eyes.

 

[quest4441]

Meh all this arguing is moot, this shit all started because gamers had "the audacity" to make a list of games. I don't give a shit if making a list makes you anti woke, racist, bigot, anyword-phobic, I only think one thing matters most- customer is king and if they want to make a fucking list you should allow them to make a fucking list. Personally I won't buy another insomniac game again as I got burned twice playing MJ and I can only imagine what would happen in the 3rd part.

Anyways we must agree that there is a culture problem in the gaming industry as a whole where the a major part of the customer base is despised

 

[ethomaz]

They want less woman with curvy in real life too? Not sure how it will works lol

 

[ethomaz]

Xbox doesn’t want White people to buy it’s products either;

Well they don’t want any type to buy their consoles… they always made a good job to make everybody wants to buy the competition.

Like a lot of us joke… Uncle Phil is probably one of the best PlayStation marketing tool.

 

[Shmunter]

Well they don’t want any type to buy their consoles… they always made a good job to make everybody wants to buy the competition.

Like a lot of us joke… Uncle Phil is probably one of the best PlayStation marketing tool.

 

[Nhomnhom]

Meh all this arguing is moot, this shit all started because gamers had "the audacity" to make a list of games. I don't give a shit if making a list makes you anti woke, racist, bigot, anyword-phobic, I only think one thing matters most- customer is king and if they want to make a fucking list you should allow them to make a fucking list. Personally I won't buy another insomniac game again as I got burned twice playing MJ and I can only imagine what would happen in the 3rd part.

Anyways we must agree that there is a culture problem in the gaming industry as a whole where the a major part of the customer base is despised

Sweet Baby Inc is very dystopian. If any artist or writers needs Sweet Baby Inc help to do their work they should be fired because they must be useless and really bad at their jobs.

 

[klomzi]

You lack nuance and are missing the key ingredient of politics at play at a larger scale. However, we were all innocent once, no harm, no foul

Good thing I don't care about the "politics at play" then. I play video games to have fun and not to go and get angry on Internet forums and social medias when a game doesn't cater to me.

The one thing that I have seen is that some people are angry that the girl in GoW Ragnarok isn't white. Like, do these people not have better things to do during the day? Guess not.

 

[Nhomnhom]

Good think I don't care about the "politics at play" then. I play video games to have fun and not to go and get angry on Internet forums and social medias when a game doesn't cater to me.

The one thing that I have seen is that some people are angry that the girl in GoW Ragnarok isn't white. Like, do these people not have better things to do during the day? Guess not.

I don't care if she is white or not, but now that I know that SSM was subjected to Sweet Baby Inc as a "consultant" it just cast a massive shadow into all of their creative choices. Why should we be ok with completely unnecessary censorship?

But I guess these devs all deserve to be subjected to censorship since they all seem to welcome it so easily. This is an industry that is mostly completely bankrupt creatively anyway with very few exceptions.

 

[Entropi]

Way to go to give your devs creative freedom, MS.

 

[Satoru]

Depictions of black people are scarce in northern Europe for obvious reasons. There might have been individuals or small groups of black slaves, workers and even some wandering explorers during the Roman Empire, but there was never any relevant social interaction, households or villages made up of blacks.

Me: Talks about pre-colonial pre-roman empire (pre-slavery pretty much)
You: "during the Roman Empire"

Facts: There were black people in northern europe BEFORE roman times. Way before. Thousands of years ago.

Whatever agenda-pushed bullshit some game journos try to push constantly, is easily debunked by all the large-scale genetics studies made within Europe.

These? Thanks for playing!

Cheddar Man: DNA shows early Briton had dark skin

Scientists put a face to Cheddar Man, Britain's oldest complete skeleton from 10,000 years ago.

www.bbc.com

But if you really think this isn't about political agendas, just imagine the meltdown from the same people defending a black Angrboda if someone decided to portray a Nigerian Orixá as a blond dude with blue eyes.

I'm very ignorant as far as Orishas go, but if they don't have a defined skin tone, I personally would have zero issues with it i.e. idgaf.

 

[Goronmon]

I'm not sure why I'm supposed to be angry about this?

Am I also supposed to be angry that Microsoft thinks male characters can show emotions like happiness or sadness?

Edit: Oh, I guess that is a bad thing...

“do you show male characters who display a full range of emotions, including joy, sadness, and vulnerability?”

Is it so rare to enjoy no nonsense hard men? Probably not, it’s why Jason Staten is hot property.

A man showing happiness is "woke" now, apparently.

 

[JAHGamer]

I'm not sure why I'm supposed to be angry about this?

Who said you have to be angry about it? React however you want to

 

[Goronmon]

Who said you have to be angry about it? React however you want to

I expressed my reaction, which is confusion as to how so many people in this thread are upset about this.

It appears to be a relative non-issue and yet people are really riled up about it.

 

[quest4441]

I expressed my reaction, which is confusion as to how so many people in this thread are upset about this.

It appears to be a relative non-issue and yet people are really riled up about it.

I think people are more expressing disdain for microsoft rather than getting mad, as it is their garbage games don't sell woke or not. Microsoft games have a bigger problem than their characters having a bigger bust/booty or not.

 

[JAHGamer]

I expressed my reaction, which is confusion as to how so many people in this thread are upset about this.

It appears to be a relative non-issue and yet people are really riled up about it.

Censorship is a non issue?

 

[Goronmon]

Censorship is a non issue?

Who is being censored? Is this listing requirements that have to be followed? Or is it just a list of topics to think about?

The source article doesn't seem to indicate that anyone is censored over this issue, so I'm curious where you are seeing this?

 

[JAHGamer]

Who is being censored? Is this listing requirements that have to be followed? Or is it just a list of topics to think about?

The source article doesn't seem to indicate that anyone is censored over this issue, so I'm curious where you are seeing this?

Everyone knows that when your bosses make "suggestions", those "suggestions" are really just demands.

It's beyond obvious that it's being followed when we have crap like this coming from them Put 2 and 2 together bruh

 

[Goronmon]

Everyone knows that when your bosses make "suggestions", those "suggestions" are really just demands.

It's beyond obvious that it's being followed when we have crap like this coming from them Put 2 and 2 together bruh

So no one is being censored, it's just more you are uncomfortable about the topic being discussed? I figure you would have more concrete examples otherwise.

What about that image am I supposed to be understanding?

 

[Nhomnhom]

Who is being censored? Is this listing requirements that have to be followed? Or is it just a list of topics to think about?

The source article doesn't seem to indicate that anyone is censored over this issue, so I'm curious where you are seeing this?

If nobody is being censored or pushed to add things to their games that are not coming from their creative drive why are they being subjected to oversight from the likes of Sweet Baby Inc?

Why do they need to consult with others about what should be their own outlet of self expression? Aren't they the so called creatives after all? Then we end up with completely shit games and people act surprised as if that came from nowhere.