Hellblade 2 runs at 30 fps with dynamic resolution on both Xbox Series S and Series X | Previews for the Game are Up

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Dumbest post of the thread.
No modern day games should be 30fps. These consoles are insanely powerful and if a piss-poor studio can't manage to code a game efficiently to run at 60fps then that's on them.

Bonus points that HB2 was announced to be released four years ago in 2024
This forum is not ready to discuss that yet.
30fps will be where games shines on base console.
 
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If it's 60fps on PC why wouldn't it be 60fps on PS5?

Is this game supposed to be CPU bound? There is barely anything going on.

To me it just seems like since good graphics is the only thing the game has going on for it, they couldn't afford an ugly 60fps version circulating.
Because the GPU in Series X and PS5 are very similar… in PC you have several GPUs better than what you have on consoles.
 
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Show me a single game, after 4 years of this current gen that justifies being locked at 30fps?

Is there a game that is drastically more impressive than Horizon Forbidden West or Spider-man 2 to the point that it was worth getting rid of half the frames? You'll end up with shitty looking and botched games like The Medium and Dragons Dogma 2.

I can compare RDR2 running at 1080p/60fps and 4K/30fps right now and it's a night and day difference in favor of 1080p/60fps.
The games you listed in special HFW are drastic better looking in 30fps mode… same for Spider-Man 2.

That is the reason they tried to find a middle term… 40fps mode.
 

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When you push graphics to next gen wow level 30fps is nedded.

60fps is the reason most games this gen are not impressive graphically compared with PS4… I explained in GAF that with the jump PS4 30fps to PS5 60fps we lose the wow factor in graphics.

Of course games on PS5 looks better but we lose the big jump we had in generation shift.

Don’t take me wrong we still have pretty great looking games in 30fps modes but when you choose the 60fps modes the things go downhill and the so called 120fps modes is like playing PS3 level of graphics 🤷‍♂️
Demons souls remake looks perfect in 60fps mode
 

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Demons souls remake looks perfect in 60fps mode
Looks way better in 30fps 🤷‍♂️
And that is one of the game that has less difference between Fidelity and Performance… only resolution bump.

Others games like Spider-Man the difference is drastic.

So I doubt about it looking perfect… it did have compromises.
 
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Looks way better in 30fps 🤷‍♂️
And that is one of the game that has less difference between Fidelity and Performance… only resolution bump.

Others games like Spider-Man the difference is drastic.
Demon's Souls is extreme.

usually, 60fps games takes way to big of the hit in graphics to justify it. i have 0 problem to play in 30fps or 60fps.
very few games offer good enough fidelity mode and 60fps.
 

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Dumbest post of the thread.
No modern day games should be 30fps. These consoles are insanely powerful and if a piss-poor studio can't manage to code a game efficiently to run at 60fps then that's on them.

Bonus points that HB2 was announced to be released four years ago in 2024
If you don’t like facts, that’s your problem lol
 

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People here are willing to cut frame rates by half and then talk about not being willing to make any compromise. As if having to sacrifice some IQ to double the frame rate was some sort of new revelation.

I 100% side with PC players on this one, 30fps is unacceptable and I have a hard time believing people that cheer 30fps are actually being honest and aren't just console zealots in denial.
 

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People here are willing to cut frame rates by half and then talk about not being willing to make any compromise. As if having to sacrifice some IQ to double the frame rate was some sort of new revelation.

I 100% side with PC players on this one, 30fps is unacceptable and I have a hard time believing people that cheer 30fps are actually being honest and aren't just console zealots in denial.
if you a some sort of close minded who can't accept other people preference, it is your problem. anyone who is denial is you then.

i very enjoy 30fps but i ALSO PREFER CHOICES.
 
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People here are willing to cut frame rates by half and then talk about not being willing to make any compromise. As if having to sacrifice some IQ to double the frame rate was some sort of new revelation.

I 100% side with PC players on this one, 30fps is unacceptable and I have a hard time believing people that cheer 30fps are actually being honest and aren't just console zealots in denial.
Not sure why this is suprise to you.
I play most of the games in 30fps (most cases in the default option that is set on PS5: Fidelity).

For example I played God of War (both original end Ragnarok) in 30fps 🤷‍♂️
Never found any issue with it.

I need to check but FFXVI I played in 30fps too because it was too blurry in 60fps.

And when people talk about first person shooter.
Destiny made it name in 30fps and it was considered by most hardcore fps players as being one of the very best gunplay in the market.

I'm not saying 60fps games can't exist or that they are not good but the narrative only 60fps games are good is bullshit imo.
 

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Watching the previews again, the combat reminds me of Callisto Protocol (that's not a compliment).
 

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The fact that people are upset about this just goes to show that it was never about the game anyway, and purely about what they thought was going to be some kind of visual powerhouse statement.

The game itself is secondary.

And that's the issue with everything Xbox has been doing for the past 10+ years.
 

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The fact that people are upset about this just goes to show that it was never about the game anyway, and purely about what they thought was going to be some kind of visual powerhouse statement.

The game itself is secondary.

And that's the issue with everything Xbox has been doing for the past 10+ years.
But why we can't look at the game itself?
I mean it will eventually come to all platforms... so it will come to PS5.

I think most important than the narrative from Xbots is if the game is indeed good or not.

I know we laugh about games like Redfall but that is why Xbots narrative did that to themselves.
In my view I will never wish games being released in the quality of Redfall (it is just an example anyway).
 

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Well I did not expect it to have combat at all.
What do you mean by this? The first game had very rudimentary combat that wasn't all that more sophisticated than old mobile games like Infinity Blade. It doesn't look like they improved the combat system all that much. But that's to be expected for such a short game - it wouldn't make sense to include any meaningful skill trees or mechanics
 

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But why we can't look at the game itself?
I mean it will eventually come to all platforms... so it will come to PS5.

I think most important than the narrative from Xbots is if the game is indeed good or not.

I know we laugh about games like Redfall but that is why Xbots narrative did that to themselves.
In my view I will never want games being released in the quality of Redfall (it is just an example anyway).
I'm saying that what I stated was true for the Xbox clan. Which, again, is the whole point. I thought the first one was bad when it launched on PS4 and I played it there, well before it was ever out on Xbox, or associated with Xbox. I do care about the quality of the games and less so about 30 vs 60 fps if the game is fun and playable.

When it was purchased by MS the Xbox people started saying how it was going to be this massive game of the generation "with Microsoft's backing," presuming the fallacy that throwing money at a problem fixes things. It doesn't. I've been saying for years nothing would change because it's the same team, so you're going to get something of similar quality.

Lo and behold the game is short. It's not an open world God of War killer. It runs at 30fps. It's all very normal stuff. So the game will likely be mediocre just like the first one. But the Xbox players don't care already because it doesn't hit some spec metric.
 
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