Hellblade 2 runs at 30 fps with dynamic resolution on both Xbox Series S and Series X | Previews for the Game are Up

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Im afraid 30 fps will always exist

Newer game with more advanced graphics will always comes and push curent gen console to 30 fps back again

When the consoles comes out they might be able to do 60 fps on the game that comes out during those times just fine but years latter when newer game with more demanding graphics arrived due to its limitation the console will have to scale back to 30 fps or worse again until nextgen console arrives
Graphics whores will always focus on graphics and it's easier to sell a game on graphics than it is FPS, so in that sense I agree that 30fps will always exist.

That doesn't mean they should.
 

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Graphics whores will always focus on graphics and it's easier to sell a game on graphics than it is FPS, so in that sense I agree that 30fps will always exist.

That doesn't mean they should.
How is that true when all the best selling games are 60fps?

Do you think a 30fps COD would be easier to market? 30fps Fortnite? 30fps Fifa? 30fps GT? 30fps Street Fighter? 30fps Mario?

A Zen2 is not a Jaguar, there are no excuses anymore.
 

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How is that true when all the best selling games are 60fps?

Do you think a 30fps COD would be easier to market? A 30fps Fortnite? A 30fps Fifa? A 30fps GT? A 30fps Street Fighter?

A Zen2 is not a Jaguar, there are no excuses anymore.
None of the games you mentioned are graphics whores games.
A new study recently came out showing 60% of gaming time is of games 6+ years old; those you have mentioned.

I agree though, there is no excuse. But Devs are fucking useless nowadays and can't code for shit, while showcases show off unrealistic graphics, just like HB2
 

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Good luck to those devs releasing 30fps only games.
You saw games becoming 30 fps during ps3 late cycle

You saw games becoming 30 fps during ps4 late cycle

You will be seeing games becoming 30 fps during ps5 late cycle

And you will be seeing 30 fps again on ps6 during it late lifecycle when the console cant handle the more advanced graphics

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After watching the videos and reading the reports, the character models in Hellblade 2 look nice, but nothing revolutionary. Moreover, the game looks to be mostly set in dark corridors and small dark rooms with very few other characters on screen. Also the reports say that all fights will be 1 v 1 duels. All that said, I don't understand why this hellblade 2 is so demanding that it can only reach 30 FPS on the series X? I'm assuming it's because they're heavily implementing ray tracing, which brings most hardware to its knees? TBH, I'm much more impressed graphically by a game like H:FW that manages to deliver on fidelity, scope and frame rate/performance.
 

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You saw games becoming 30 fps during ps3 late cycle

You saw games becoming 30 fps during ps4 late cycle

You will be seeing games becoming 30 fps during ps5 late cycle

And you will be seeing 30 fps again on ps6 during it late lifecycle when the console cant handle the more advanced graphics

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Nope. PS3 and PS4 never had nearly as much 60fps games as PS5 has.

It's over for 30fps.

After watching the videos and reading the reports, the character models in Hellblade 2 look nice, but nothing revolutionary. Moreover, the game looks to be mostly set in dark corridors and small dark rooms with very few other characters on screen. Also the reports say that all fights will be 1 v 1 duels. All that said, I don't understand why this hellblade 2 is so demanding that it can only reach 30 FPS on the series X? I'm assuming it's because they're heavily implementing ray tracing, which brings most hardware to its knees? TBH, I'm much more impressed graphically by a game like H:FW that manages to deliver on fidelity, scope and frame rate/performance.
It's impressive how long they took to make this game given how limited it is. Relying on RT is supposed to make development easier not harder.
 
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Nope. PS3 and PS4 never had nearly as much 60fps games as PS5 has.

It's over for 30fps.
Lets revisit this comment again when witcher 4 battlefield 6 etc comes out

On base ps5 and not on ps5pro for sure
 

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it never die and i am happy because of that. that said. option always good. 30fps, 60fps must and 40fps VRR if they have the time.
tbh I hate fps whores lmao. 30 fps is fine and people that cry about it are just overly sensitive and should either get over it or buy a PC.
That's it.
You can't and platform holders won't force developers to put out games at 60fps.
It simply will not happen.
The vast majority of people don't care about fps or resolution, they care about the game looking good and being fun.
Some will argue: "they might not know, but they'll feel the difference".
Ok, but did that stop God of War 2018, Spider Man, Mario 64, OoT, BOTW and TOTK from being massive hits? NOPE.
Fps was and never will be a requirement for a game to be either good of successful.
Again, if you care about this, stop crying and buy a PC.
 

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30fps Battlefield 6? Might as well cancel that game now.
Even now on curent gen console limitations already happened

When you play baldurs gate 3 on ps5 or xbox series x theres 2 options

The fidelity mode with 30 fps but native 1440p and the perfomance mode with 60 fps but lesser graphic fidelity

Meaning some compromise has to be made since the console cant achieve both target at the same time
 
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Even now curent gen console limitations already happened

When you play baldurs gate 3 on ps5 theres 2 options

The fidelity mode with 30 fps but native 1440p and the perfomance mode with 60 fps but lesser graphuc fidelity

Meaning some compromies has to be made since the console cant achieve both at the same time
Compromises have to be made on any target, there is no magic.

Don't you realize that compared to 60fps when you are playing at 30fps half your frame rate were "compromises"?

Why do you advocate for 30fps instead of 20fps? 30fps is awful and these devs that fail to have the common sense to target 60fps are precisely the ones that will produce completely botched 30fps modes.

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Glorious 30fps, weird mouths, blured image and black bars.
 

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Why do you advocate for 30fps instead of 20fps? 30fps is awful and these devs that fail to have the common sense to target 60fps are precisely the ones that will produce completely botched 30fps modes.
No one here is advocating 30 fps

everyone here wants to play at 60 fps

everyone here wants to play at 4K

everyone here wants to play at 120 if posible

everyone here wants to play at 8K if posible

Everyone in here wants to play the best version of the game they play

but like i said as technology pushing forward the console that came out several years ago will have some limitations and have to be scaled back again
 

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No one here is advocating 30 fps

everyone here wants to play at 60 fps

everyone here wants to play at 4K

everyone here wants to play at 120 posible

everyone gere wants to play at 8K if posible

Everyone in here wants to play the best version of game they can play

but like i said as technology pushing forward the console that cames out several years ago will have some limtitations and have to scaled back again
If everybody wants 60fps just make it 60fps, there is no mistery to it.

Something is wrong with your game if it's made for the PS5 and can only hit 30fps.
 

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If everybody wants 60fps just make it 60fps, there is no mistery to it.

Something is wrong with your game if it's made for the PS5 and can only hit 30fps.
Man maybe ps5 can play 2040ish game at 60 fps but the graphics will probably look like CJ in GTA San Andreas

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The previews are good but the only focuse for console warriors is 30 fps......
The previews of Redfall and Starfield were also glowing. Everybody know what this game is going to be about, graphics and that is it.

I don't see how opposing 30fps is a console warrior thing, nobody here wants Sony or anyone else targeting 30fps.

Defending 30fps is much more tied to console warriors, as you certainly already knows, since MS is the one releasing many 30fps games.
 

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The previews of Redfall and Starfield were also glowing. Everybody know what this game is going to be about, graphics and that is it.

I don't see how opposing 30fps is a console warrior thing, nobody here wants Sony or anyone else targeting 30fps.

Defending 30fps is much more tied to console warriors, as you certainly already knows, since MS is the one releasing many 30fps games.
previews were never glowing for redfall or starfield. I actually don't recall if Starfield had previews are not. I never said opposing 30 fps is bad, all I'm saying is that console warriors are only honed in on 30fps and nothing else about the previews.
 

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previews were never glowing for redfall or starfield. I actually don't recall if Starfield had previews are not. I never said opposing 30 fps is bad, all I'm saying is that console warriors are only honed in on 30fps and nothing else about the previews.
I bet they'll also talk about the bad gameplay that reminds me of that FFVII Rebirth fighting minigame. :ROFLMAO:

But hey, at least we get to see another game written by the guy that made DmC and Bleeding Edge. o_O
 
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Lets revisit this comment again when witcher 4 battlefield 6 etc comes out

On base ps5 and not on ps5pro for sure
I understand why DD2 has some severe performance issues because they have a ton of NPCs that have their own scripted interactions with players and each other. HB2 is a sparsely populated, mainly set in dark corridor or arenas, centered around rudimentary 1v1 slasher combat.