Another Forbes article (Tassi the guy you love) A PS5 Pro Will Feel Extra Unnecessary This Time Around

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It’s time for another set of PS5 Pro rumors and discussion, a console upgrade that Sony is allegedly making while Microsoft’s plans to potentially do the same remain a lot more nebulous, even though they did so last generation with the Xbox Series X

Now, Sony is potentially looking to get players to upgrade their current PS5s four years after their 2020 launch, and the latest rumors put a potential release date at 2024. Some expect it to be announced at CES shortly, others think it won’t be for much longer, closer to potential release. If that fall 2024 date is accurate at all.

The specs indicate that Sony is at least trying to produce 60 fps on almost all games, and it would of course be the most powerful console on the market when it arrives, as they wouldn’t even bother with it, if not. But this time around, it feels like the PS5 Pro is even more unnecessary than the PS4 Pro was, and it’s going to be an odd release and a tough ask for an upgrade this time around.

We still do not know exactly how many PS4 Pros were sold in relation to the 117 million reported total PS4 sales. Shuhei Yoshida said it sold more than the PS4 Slim, but that’s about all we’ve heard. But it was apparently enough for them to try to replicate the concept again.

There are some significant differences here, however:

  • The PS5 suffered from serious supply issues for the first two years of launch, causing many delayed purchases from consumers. So even if we are four years into the console generation instead of three like the PS4 Pro, it may still feel too soon to upgrade for many.
  • But on the other side of the coin, being 4 years into a console generation may make other early adopters feel like they might as well just wait for the PS6, especially if the upgrades that the console get do not seem especially game-changing, power edge aside, as it’s always a big ask to upgrade an entire console if you have one that works perfectly well already. Or if you can buy a “normal” one for much cheaper.
  • We are also living in an age of tremendous price inflation, and while the PS4 Pro launched at $400, the same price as the PS4 at launch, there’s no telling how much a PS5 Pro might cost. As you’ll recall it was $450 for a digital version and $500 for a disc version. Now, there is only the $450 one with an optional disc drive for $80. At minimum, it seems like the PS5 Pro would be a $500 ask, if not more, which may be off-putting.
  • Finally, the current PS5 generation has been a bit odd with its exclusives. Many of its biggest games like Horizon Forbidden West and God of War Ragnarok have also launched on PS4, not wanting to leave those 117 million owners behind. We have only gotten a scarce handful of PS5-only, large-scale games, the biggest of which being this year’s Spider-Man 2 and its insta-load screens. And PS5 is looking to have a relatively light 2024 in the grand scheme of things minus maybe Final Fantasy VII Rebirth. So there are few games that may feel like PS5 is going to elevate them in some way, at least currently, as that may change in the future.
I genuinely think that GTA 6 may end up being the most relevant upgrade factor here. It’s destined to be one of the biggest games of all time, barring some serious ball-dropping by Rockstar, and it’s easy to imagine many players, myself included, will want the best hardware to run the once in a generation game for the first time. And if Xbox does not get an upgrade, and the PC version isn’t out for at least a year, that will be the PS5 Pro. Though GTA is not out until some time in 2025, or beyond, if delayed.
 
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I dont read articles that dont have comments on them. That's how you know Forbes is bs.
Hmmm never noticed that. I post them just because I like to see others views even if it's tainted it can start some gd discourse. I can see why some might be for/against a pro. For me devs hvnt even been able to truly utilize current gen so a pro is needed but I know ppl think differently. I will get a Pro day one, I love new tech!
 

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PS5 Pro is an easy win for Sony, just like how PS4 Pro was likely even better since they already knew it was coming and we have plenty of games with unlocked framerate and multiple modes.

Why doesn't anyone question how necessary new GPUs are? When all you are doing is playing the same games on higher framerates and slightly better settings? Frequently with added stutter.

Why does the Series S + Series X were a genius move but PS5 + PS5 Pro makes no sense?

Why can Apple get away with tons of premium products and forced differentiation strategies but PlayStation can't have a premium option? Even Nintendo does it with their OLED version.
 
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It’s time for another set of PS5 Pro rumors and discussion, a console upgrade that Sony is allegedly making while Microsoft’s plans to potentially do the same remain a lot more nebulous, even though they did so last generation with the Xbox Series X

Now, Sony is potentially looking to get players to upgrade their current PS5s four years after their 2020 launch, and the latest rumors put a potential release date at 2024. Some expect it to be announced at CES shortly, others think it won’t be for much longer, closer to potential release. If that fall 2024 date is accurate at all.

The specs indicate that Sony is at least trying to produce 60 fps on almost all games, and it would of course be the most powerful console on the market when it arrives, as they wouldn’t even bother with it, if not. But this time around, it feels like the PS5 Pro is even more unnecessary than the PS4 Pro was, and it’s going to be an odd release and a tough ask for an upgrade this time around.

We still do not know exactly how many PS4 Pros were sold in relation to the 117 million reported total PS4 sales. Shuhei Yoshida said it sold more than the PS4 Slim, but that’s about all we’ve heard. But it was apparently enough for them to try to replicate the concept again.

There are some significant differences here, however:

  • The PS5 suffered from serious supply issues for the first two years of launch, causing many delayed purchases from consumers. So even if we are four years into the console generation instead of three like the PS4 Pro, it may still feel too soon to upgrade for many.
  • But on the other side of the coin, being 4 years into a console generation may make other early adopters feel like they might as well just wait for the PS6, especially if the upgrades that the console get do not seem especially game-changing, power edge aside, as it’s always a big ask to upgrade an entire console if you have one that works perfectly well already. Or if you can buy a “normal” one for much cheaper.
  • We are also living in an age of tremendous price inflation, and while the PS4 Pro launched at $400, the same price as the PS4 at launch, there’s no telling how much a PS5 Pro might cost. As you’ll recall it was $450 for a digital version and $500 for a disc version. Now, there is only the $450 one with an optional disc drive for $80. At minimum, it seems like the PS5 Pro would be a $500 ask, if not more, which may be off-putting.
  • Finally, the current PS5 generation has been a bit odd with its exclusives. Many of its biggest games like Horizon Forbidden West and God of War Ragnarok have also launched on PS4, not wanting to leave those 117 million owners behind. We have only gotten a scarce handful of PS5-only, large-scale games, the biggest of which being this year’s Spider-Man 2 and its insta-load screens. And PS5 is looking to have a relatively light 2024 in the grand scheme of things minus maybe Final Fantasy VII Rebirth. So there are few games that may feel like PS5 is going to elevate them in some way, at least currently, as that may change in the future.
I genuinely think that GTA 6 may end up being the most relevant upgrade factor here. It’s destined to be one of the biggest games of all time, barring some serious ball-dropping by Rockstar, and it’s easy to imagine many players, myself included, will want the best hardware to run the once in a generation game for the first time. And if Xbox does not get an upgrade, and the PC version isn’t out for at least a year, that will be the PS5 Pro. Though GTA is not out until some time in 2025, or beyond, if delayed.
Year just started, and m$ already funding garbage.
What was last year? Liquid metal? Overheating? 😂
 

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Damage control!

Microsoft scrambling to come up with FUD:

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More brain-dead nonsense from Tassi, who is another individual who acts as if having more choice in the Playstation ecosystem is a bad thing.

The OG Playstation will continue to be the biggest seller, and the Pro will thrive because there is a significant market for it.
 

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What score did he give to Starfield? That's how I tell how deep into Phil’s ass these ‘journalists’ are.
 

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Sony is basically competing with themselves at this point. Very reminiscent of SEGA after they gained leverage in the culture war against Nintendo but obviously not nearly as bad. It’ll just be interesting to see a new PlayStation iteration without the exclusive lineup the PS4 had when its Pro model shipped. Even if we said this is for PlayStation enthusiasts, how much better can the games they do have out look currently? How much better can they run?

I’ll be checking for it because I like being cutting edge but things are proceeding in a very interesting way currently.
 
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Sony is basically competing with themselves at this point. Very reminiscent of SEGA after they gained leverage in the culture war against Nintendo but obviously not nearly as bad. It’ll just be interesting to see a new PlayStation iteration without the exclusive lineup the PS4 had when its Pro model shipped. Even if we said this is for PlayStation enthusiasts, how much better can the games they do have out look currently? How much better can they run?

I’ll be checking for it because I like being cutting edge but things are proceeding in a very interesting way currently.
Yeah the Xbox nonsense is just background noise. They just need to keep steady and Xbox will never have a chance, doesn't matter how powerful the console looks on paper, those acquisitions, things just get worse for them because ppl don't like bs.
 
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Well Microsoft released 4 generations of useless consoles, I think Sony can get away with releasing a "useless" mid-gen refresh.
 
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The points are all accurate, and I would still hope that there is no PS5 Pro. With so much smoke that seems unlikely now. PS5 has not come close to delivering on its capabilities yet, and probably half the PS5 userbase bought in in the last year.

PS5 Pro is a bungle. It's a clear statement not to buy launch Playstation hardware. By the time they exit their cross-gen period, the Pro will be right around the corner.
 
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All because Microsoft's console market is in such a dire state of sales, they can't justify further splintering and make a Pro model of their own. And if Xbox isn't allowed to be an inferior PlayStation in all aspects, then PlayStation isn't allowed to do it, period.

...At least that's how people like Tassi and Forbes seem to think. These types are the problem with modern gaming discourse and encouraging homogenous samey-samey slop all across the industry.