April NPD (Circana): PS5 #1 in dollar sales, switch #1 in units

[Swolf712]

So demand constrained that when the $499 Series X comes it stock it shoots up to where the PS5 is at when the Forza bundle never did

Series X is supply constrained. The Forza bundle is a waste of money that gets tossed to the side as soon as the $499 is available. Get over it.

Edit: Fucking incredible. The Series X is sold out at Amazon, only sold by 3rd parties lmao

Get owned, haters. This console can't stay in stock at all.

Oh yeah, and further:

Looks very in-stock to me.

 

[Vertigo]

Of course it’s in stock. No one wants an Xbox. These xbots are just in denial.

It’s getting steamrolled.

 

[Cool hand luke]

So demand constrained that when the $499 Series X comes it stock it shoots up to where the PS5 is at when the Forza bundle never did

Series X is supply constrained. The Forza bundle is a waste of money that gets tossed to the side as soon as the $499 is available. Get over it.

Edit: Fucking incredible. The Series X is sold out at Amazon, only sold by 3rd parties lmao

Get owned, haters. This console can't stay in stock at all.

This is...embarrassing. For you, to be clear.

I can explain to you yet again how bundles staying in stock means the console has a demand problem but I can't help you understand it.

Even if a buyer values Forza at $0, if there was excess demand for the XSX, some people would pay more to secure one. This is fundamental economic theory. It's how supply and demand work. Undoubtedly the standalone XSX is better value for those people, so those same customers will go for the standalone when it's in stock. There is next to no demand for an XSX at whatever the bundle costs and marginally more at the standalone price.

The XSX is in stock, the XSS is in stock, the console is undesirable, and sales are declining year on year.

 

[Darth Vader]

So demand constrained that when the $499 Series X comes it stock it shoots up to where the PS5 is at when the Forza bundle never did

Series X is supply constrained. The Forza bundle is a waste of money that gets tossed to the side as soon as the $499 is available. Get over it.

Edit: Fucking incredible. The Series X is sold out at Amazon, only sold by 3rd parties lmao

Get owned, haters. This console can't stay in stock at all.

The mask has fallen. And you owned nobody. The console is not supply constrained, keep coping.

 

[Alabtrosmyster]

Supply chain issues...

I see forum trolls saying it, but last I recall news articles on this topic there were news that the supply issues were resolved (before similar news for the PS systems).

I could walk in any best buy within the city and buy either xbox consoles, bundles or not when they open later today, I just checked they have ample stock.

That was supposed to kill the PS5.

 

[Vertigo]

Demand issue. Not supply.



Xbox is undesirable. It has no software support. It won’t get any software support because gamepass is a failure that bankrupts studios. Also, gamepass software support has been… shit? Redfall, HiFi Rush; no one actually played any of this regardless of quality. They’re flops.

Players know. They don’t want this shit. The gap will only widen. PS5 has already won the culture war in record time and will most likely outperform ps4 when it’s all said and done. And why? Because no one wants an Xbox.

They can keep up with the damage control attempts but each month NPD/circana and global sales will continue tell a different story.

Series SuX is the worst xbox they’ve ever made and the way it’s getting steamrolled right now will be one for the history books.

They had decent momentum when the gen launched and the ps5 actually had supply issues … but then they released Halo Infinite and tanked their entire brand and the IP that built it.

I’m gonna say this and I mean it… sell your Xbox asap. I’m sure jerkoff Phil Spencer won’t even disagree with your decision…

 

[Bryank75]

 

[Darth Vader]

@TubzGaming @BloodMod petiton to make @Welfare tagline "get owned, haters".

 

[On Demand]

Green rat meltdown.

 

[On Demand]

Did Series X start selling around PS5 on Amazon when stock came in? Yes.

Did Series X start selling around PS5 at Walmart .com when stock came in? Yes.

No it did not. Unless you have exact numbers your claims are baseless.

Just because it goes up the charts doesn’t mean it’s selling equal to PS5. PS5 stock levels have even out since it’s readily available. PS5 sells steadily, no more peaks. Xbox still gets a few peaks here and there. No way it means it’s selling the same as PS5. PS5 still sells way more.


So much for a “high demand” product that it can’t pass the PS5 or even get to the number 1 chart position

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That’s lack of demand.


Even last year when they had plenty stock and PS5 had shortages PS5 still sold more. MS couldn’t even take advantage of that and have games released.

They missed the high sales peaks window. MS is clueless.

Now demand barely exists and it’s only 2.6 years into the generation.

 

[VillaiN]

Maybe it sounded bitter, it wasn't meant like that.

We have 3 Switches in the house. Our first model (the OG) really had plastic around the vents and corners falling off it after a year.... it seems to be fixed on the new model more or less.

The statement about adult fans isn't meant to be an insult, they have lifelong dedicated fans.

Lifelong fans s understatement.
There re people on reddit and Reset who bought 3 or 4 copies of Totk. I couldnt believe when i saw it. Buying few switches as a gift etc. Its 200 only but still. Im more surprissed about buying same game multiple time.
Nintendo drones re special. I give them that.

 

[anonpuffs]

Lifelong fans s understatement.
There re people on reddit and Reset who bought 3 or 4 copies of Totk. I couldnt believe when i saw it. Buying few switches as a gift etc. Its 200 only but still. Im more surprissed about buying same game multiple time.
Nintendo drones re special. I give them that.

i've thought about buying and gifting a copy of ff16 and a ps5 to a friend who doesn't have one.

 

[Kereke12]

Maybe it sounded bitter, it wasn't meant like that.

We have 3 Switches in the house. Our first model (the OG) really had plastic around the vents and corners falling off it after a year.... it seems to be fixed on the new model more or less.

The statement about adult fans isn't meant to be an insult, they have lifelong dedicated fans.

I mean yeah but still. You can’t deny that the Switch is a major success story for Nintendo. After the failure of the Wii U. I’m still in shock that they made it this far with the success they currently have. Not even the 3DS had that much success. Overall I’m glad Nintendo is on top. Hopefully the new one comes with modern technology for instance, a better online infrastructure, a more efficient and faster and powerful system. (But that’s up to Nvidia and I hope they are aggressively asking Nintendo to make a powerful chip for them)

 

[ethomaz]

So demand constrained that when the $499 Series X comes it stock it shoots up to where the PS5 is at when the Forza bundle never did

Series X is supply constrained. The Forza bundle is a waste of money that gets tossed to the side as soon as the $499 is available. Get over it.

Edit: Fucking incredible. The Series X is sold out at Amazon, only sold by 3rd parties lmao

Get owned, haters. This console can't stay in stock at all.

You are finally accepting your bias instead to hide behind the cover of bullshit analysis.

I appreciate that.

 

[Welfare]

I'm not reading all 21 notifications but some of the replies are insane rejections of reality. I'm also less and less willing to be patient when replying and to take most things said on this forum seriously as any Xbox discussion here generates some of the most lunatic drivel I've seen.

I showed real time proof that the Series X sold out at Amazon and you people are so obsessed with your Xbox/Microsoft hate you ignore it.

The most popular SKU of Xbox on Amazon sold out after only 6 days. It's back in stock now but like I've been saying for months, the supply levels are low. I got proven correct while arguing it!

The continued denial that the most popular SKU for Xbox is the $499 Series X is braindead. The continued denial that Series X is supply constrained when the most popular SKU is not available at every retailer in plentiful numbers is also braindead.

Remember, the no demand Xbox is currently trading blows with the PS5 at Amazon after receiving supply. No demand tho!

I don't even know why someone brought up the Series S, I've been saying for months that thing is dead in demand. The only console people want right now is the Series X and they don't want a $60 upcharge for it. I don't even think people want that for the PS5 anymore. At almost every retailer the standard PS5's are doing way better than the bundles when they are available. The only retailer the $559 PS5 is doing fine at is Target.

You guys can continue to remain ignorant of the market but that isn't going to stop me or anyone from looking with our eyes and seeing very clear signs that Xbox isn't in full supply in the US which has been a known problem for months this year. It's gotten tiring on this forum where after providing evidence, everyone refuses to acknowledge that they were incorrect.

Simple to understand and accept as fact: The $499 Series X is the most popular Xbox today

Simple to understand and accept as fact: When the $499 Series X is made available, it significantly outperforms every other Xbox available on the market.

Simple to understand and accept as fact: The $499 Series X can and has run out of supply in the year 2023, up to May 2023, and is not readily available at every major retailer, those being GameStop, Walmart, Target, Best Buy, and Amazon.

If you can't agree to the above 3 facts I have no business discussing any further on this forum as you would be admitting to not being capable of having a rational discussion devoid of your bias against Xbox. Mat Piscatella said the exact same thing as I have back in March. The Series X was hard to find back then and it hasn't changed much since.

 

[Bryank75]

Please take it easy, be cordial to @Welfare

He is offering a different perspective.

If you've already explained why you don't agree with him, no need to reiterate!

<3

 

[On Demand]

Series X is not supply constrained and is not a high demand product.

Sales reflect that reality.

Xbox peaks at Amazon, like it’s currently doing now, then falls right back down. That’s not indicative of high demand.

 

[Cool hand luke]

Simple to understand and accept as fact: When the $499 Series X is made available, it significantly outperforms every other Xbox available on the market.

April NPD (Circana): PS5 #1 in dollar sales, switch #1 in units

So demand constrained that when the $499 Series X comes it stock it shoots up to where the PS5 is at 🙄 when the Forza bundle never did 🙄🙄🙄 Series X is supply constrained. The Forza bundle is a waste of money that gets tossed to the side as soon as the $499 is available. Get over it. Edit...

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Just read one of your notifications and maybe come out of it a little smarter.

 

[Welfare]

April NPD (Circana): PS5 #1 in dollar sales, switch #1 in units

So demand constrained that when the $499 Series X comes it stock it shoots up to where the PS5 is at 🙄 when the Forza bundle never did 🙄🙄🙄 Series X is supply constrained. The Forza bundle is a waste of money that gets tossed to the side as soon as the $499 is available. Get over it. Edit...

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Just read one of your notifications and maybe come out of it a little smarter.

Yeah this was the post I called out. You're clueless.

The Forza bundle was never touching the PS5, ever. The past two months have had it outside of or just nearly in the top 100 on Amazon. The moment the $499 X comes in, it significantly outperforms the bundle and shoots up to where the PS5 is.

I don't know how to tell you this without just repeating everything I said in the last post, but the bundle is, your gonna want to clean your eyes for this one, not desirable.

The Series S likewise is not desirable.

You know what is? The $499 Series X. The demand for those two other products have no fucking bearing on the $499 X OTHERWISE it would perform the exact same as those two. Flops.

You're just ignoring reality. #20-30 is not "marginally better" than #100 on a top sellers list.

It's just so easy to be right. A non digital PS5 has two options, the $499 and the GOW bundle. Right now the $499 PS5 is #32 and the GOW bundle is #60. The $499 Series X is #28. Where's the Forza bundle? #483. It's an undesirable product and if you knew economic theory at all, you would know that the value of a product is important. The $559 Forza bundle does not have the value equal to its price otherwise it would currently be performing similarly to the GOW bundle.

 

[Nhomnhom]

Yeah this was the post I called out. You're clueless.

The Forza bundle was never touching the PS5, ever. The past two months have had it outside of or just nearly in the top 100 on Amazon. The moment the $499 X comes in, it significantly outperforms the bundle and shoots up to where the PS5 is.

I don't know how to tell you this without just repeating everything I said in the last post, but the bundle is, your gonna want to clean your eyes for this one, not desirable.

The Series S likewise is not desirable.

You know what is? The $499 Series X. The demand for those two other products have no fucking bearing on the $499 X OTHERWISE it would perform the exact same as those two. Flops.

You're just ignoring reality. #20-30 is not "marginally better" than #100 on a top sellers list.

It's just so easy to be right. A non digital PS5 has two options, the $499 and the GOW bundle. Right now the $499 PS5 is #32 and the GOW bundle is #60. The $499 Series X is #28. Where's the Forza bundle? #483. It's an undesirable product and if you knew economic theory at all, you would know that the value of a product is important. The $559 Forza bundle does not have the value equal to its price otherwise it would currently be performing similarly to the GOW bundle.

You just have to be trolling at this point. You take yourself way too seriously for someone who talks so much nonsense.

Did it never occur to you that MS doesn't make more non-bundled Xbox on purpose to push the bundled ones and that Sony can still move bundled consoles at far bigger numbers anyway?

Xbox is getting murdered and ain't because of lack of stock, just face reality.