That is what Sony should do since beginning… no Xbox announce.
But now they already announced then that game be the last one to come to Xbox.
Bungie Devs Say Atmosphere Is ‘Soul-Crushing’ Amid Layoffs, Cuts, and Fear of Total Sony Takeover
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That is what Sony should do since beginning… no Xbox announce.
But now they already announced then that game be the last one to come to Xbox.
I don’t think that is true.
Minecraft next-gen patch was still to be launched on PS5.
About the others project PlayStation only got these that where already in contract to be timed exclusive to PlayStation.
All others releases after acquisition avoided PlayStation… HiFi Rush, Redfall and Starfield.
Would be dumb IMO to not release Marathon in all consoles. A game like Marathon will live or die with the player base. It’s not an “exclusive play” like for example a single player game.
Only COD for example would have the pull, and even in COD’s case this would be hard to achieve.
If Bungie gets its act together and if we look at a Bungie a few years from who is successfully releasing GAAS games and also a promising single player game, I can see Sony pushing for an exclusive play for the single player game only (console exclusive + pc release a few months later).
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Bungie can stay multiplat, thts OK with me. They need income and even though Xbox gamers rarely support games it's still more income than they would have had.
But it may not be enough income to justify the cost of developing another build of the game.
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Mostly clickbait, specially trying to paint a Sony executive takeover as a bad thing. Bungie literally agreed to sell to Sony. Sony owns them, end of story. Sony is the company that had to go out and buy Bungie cause its GaaS footprint was literally non-existent more or less. Middle of the road, moderate conservative - traditional akin to Nintendo (which is the extreme) - yet somehow the stewards of this industry, unlike the shitstains and cancer of this industry, are "bad" at managing - please!
Btw, the publicized drama in Bungie will hit all big GaaS devs sooner or later. The only question is whether there is going to be selective media reporting and magnification due to agenda reasons. As an eternal bullshit sniffing specialist, my cynic side has already made up its mind on that subject.
NO game, absolutely no game is meant to last forever - period (not Destiny, not Fornite, not COD - buckle up). What you're seeing here is the struggle within the company on how to best manage Destiny's farewell tour and into the new "it" for the studio. And you're getting a sneak peak into that process "live". That goes for the development process, staff reshuffle, layoffs etc. All these GaaS studios are massively, massively bloated. The biggest irony of all of this is that coming out of the traditional AAA model (and all the criticisms thrown its way about "unsustainability") came a phasing into the GaaS model in which staff sizes instead of shrinking simply grew even more enormous and larger, to a significant degree, which puts a lot of stress on the overall operation of a GaaS studio - requiring a high degree of continued success for sustainment. It's going to be a rough landing for many "successful" GaaS devs when the golden goose stops being the "golden goose" - whether the game just dies because some other game got gamer's attention or the studio simply failed to evolve or made mistakes to lose consumer goodwill, or simply speaking, the title reached the end of the road.
The undertones of the media pitch of "bad Sony" do give out the wrong smell considering the platforms, outlets and media personalities we're dealing with - and its a pattern. Ever since there was smell of blood in the water in Bungie, pouncing on Sony by extension has been the go-to defacto media emphasis, and that smells of usual FUD, gratuitously to shore up the usual suspect. At the very least as a diversionary tactic seeking attention - for an ever constant negative aura amongst all the good - for "balance's" sake. The negativity is never about real topics of discussion in this industry (many which do include Sony) cause that would require a different kind of press - a true press.
Bottomline: Sony made a 3 bill investment here. Sony agreed with Bungie's management to allow Bungie to do their own thing - provided they managed themselves well and did that very thing. If for some reason Bungie's management fucks up that agreement and the studio is about to implode it begs to reason that the company that invested billions into them will take matters into its own hands to salvage the operation - whatever can be salvaged anyway in a worst case scenario. But moreover, you don't sit idly by and watch a worse case scenario develop - you intervene if you have to to prevent that very thing.
Again... low IQ clickbait from IGN. Lets just leave it that for now.
Btw, the publicized drama in Bungie will hit all big GaaS devs sooner or later. The only question is whether there is going to be selective media reporting and magnification due to agenda reasons. As an eternal bullshit sniffing specialist, my cynic side has already made up its mind on that subject.
NO game, absolutely no game is meant to last forever - period (not Destiny, not Fornite, not COD - buckle up). What you're seeing here is the struggle within the company on how to best manage Destiny's farewell tour and into the new "it" for the studio. And you're getting a sneak peak into that process "live". That goes for the development process, staff reshuffle, layoffs etc. All these GaaS studios are massively, massively bloated. The biggest irony of all of this is that coming out of the traditional AAA model (and all the criticisms thrown its way about "unsustainability") came a phasing into the GaaS model in which staff sizes instead of shrinking simply grew even more enormous and larger, to a significant degree, which puts a lot of stress on the overall operation of a GaaS studio - requiring a high degree of continued success for sustainment. It's going to be a rough landing for many "successful" GaaS devs when the golden goose stops being the "golden goose" - whether the game just dies because some other game got gamer's attention or the studio simply failed to evolve or made mistakes to lose consumer goodwill, or simply speaking, the title reached the end of the road.
The undertones of the media pitch of "bad Sony" do give out the wrong smell considering the platforms, outlets and media personalities we're dealing with - and its a pattern. Ever since there was smell of blood in the water in Bungie, pouncing on Sony by extension has been the go-to defacto media emphasis, and that smells of usual FUD, gratuitously to shore up the usual suspect. At the very least as a diversionary tactic seeking attention - for an ever constant negative aura amongst all the good - for "balance's" sake. The negativity is never about real topics of discussion in this industry (many which do include Sony) cause that would require a different kind of press - a true press.
Bottomline: Sony made a 3 bill investment here. Sony agreed with Bungie's management to allow Bungie to do their own thing - provided they managed themselves well and did that very thing. If for some reason Bungie's management fucks up that agreement and the studio is about to implode it begs to reason that the company that invested billions into them will take matters into its own hands to salvage the operation - whatever can be salvaged anyway in a worst case scenario. But moreover, you don't sit idly by and watch a worse case scenario develop - you intervene if you have to to prevent that very thing.
Again... low IQ clickbait from IGN. Lets just leave it that for now.
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And to think this company had the nerve to walk into Naughty Dog and tell them, “your game isn’t good enough”. SMH.
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That is a media bubble interpretation of what rumor mill journalism claims happened, and by extension thrown to the sheep for mass consumption and mass clicks. Anyone with a brain can almost assuredly work out in their minds that it never played out like that, if it ever did.
This Archie Comics looking mofo recently graded Xbox this year a B cause of quantity over quality. He's giving Destin a run for his money.
I dont think the situation is that devious. I think bungie for years have had funding issues, pre Sony.
Both saw an opportunity to help each other. Sony needed a foot in the door for live services and Bungie needed funding (a lot) to stay open.
Sony making a $3B pledge would almost certainly give them some say in the company and in the event of a catastrophe with income and revenue Sony would have to step the fuck in to protect that $3b investment, Bungie must have expected and knew this.
I am starting to wonder if Bungie going out of their way to maintain independence (terminating staff) is maybe because with independence they would be allowed to buy themself back from Sony like they did with MS, however, in the event they lose independence then maybe the clause they have in place would make it so that buy back option gets nixxed and Sony would own the fuck out of them outright point blank and have all the say. End of the day sony bought Bungie for their technology used in their Live Service game Destiny, thats all they want. Just a thought.
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No idea what they’re doing with acquisitions? Have you seen what Insomniac has been doing? Lol
that was when Sony had competent leadership, Jim/Hermen have absolutely zero clue what they're doing. Thankfully one is gone soon, hopefully Hermen follows
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New Bungie Information From IGN:"As it currently stands, Bungie is (on paper) a fully independent subsidiary of Sony. But its board of directors has been divided since the takeover in July of 2022. Among its current members are PlayStation Studios head Hermen Hulst, Sony senior VP Eric Lempel, Bungie co-founder Jason Jones, Bungie CTO Luis Villegas, and Bungie CEO Pete Parsons. The board as a whole is split between Sony and Bungie representatives, with Parsons serving as a tiebreaker vote. But speaking to IGN under condition of anonymity, multiple current and former Bungie employees described a department meeting that took place shortly after the layoffs, in which leaders hinted that this shared power may not last forever. Sony did not respond to IGN’s request for comment on this piece. Bungie declined to comment.""While the exact details of Sony’s deal to acquire Bungie remain unknown to the public or employees, sources say they were told by leaders that the current split board structure is contingent on Bungie meeting certain financial goals. If Bungie falls short of certain financial goals by too great an amount, Sony is allowed to dissolve the existing board and take full control of the company.""It was with this threat looming that Bungie leadership - not Sony, according to Parsons - made the choice to lay off roughly 100 employees last month."
It is clear that Bungie has totally lost their way, so maybe Sony taking direct control would be good for them.
This bungie takedown in the media and the obvious online smear campaign is more concerning than Bungie reshuffling.
Yeah, they dont want to give up control of the company they founded, understandable but why the fuck did ya sell the company.
What a dumb situation.
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