Death Stranding has been quietly released for Xbox Series X|S.

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What implications? I have already stated that a multiplatform nature of Sony is enough for me to continue with the platform. But in a way I guess you're right? for console warriors this is 100% the end after arguing on forums posting list wars, metacritic scores, and being insecure, that wall is finally being dismantled. Whole ass identity is what they have and others cannot. I can't imagine being so tied to console brand to really care about the logistics for what it means for them. their issue.
The implications is PlayStation further devaluing their platform. You keep talking about console warriors. No, PlayStation cultivated their base for 4 decades to expect exclusive games to stay on their platform, to buy into their ecosystem for exclusive games. The same way Nintendo has cultivated their base to expect exclusives. Again, exclusives have always been what differentiates a console.

PlayStation was using the slogan "Only on PlayStation" all of PS4 generation for a reason. To act like fans are in the wrong to have a company bait and switch on them is laughable.

Now go ask Sony leadership why are they spending millions on GTA VI marketing... I mean why are they marketing a game that is already confirmed for Xbox? 🤣

Doesn't make any sense does it?

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True.... Unfortunate that there is no possiblity in the world to increase the amount of teams. Like buying some or hiring new people.
You clearly have no idea how business works. If you were ever in the position, good luck making payroll bud. Emplayees are one of the most expensive part of a business believe it or not.
 

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who hacked Danja account? 😂 come forward!
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This has always been my posting habits 🤔
 
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So what's the point of a PlayStation if you don't even need it for the remaining 5%?
Price for the amount of power and games available on it is pretty good
Not needing to fiddle with settings or worry about a game not running on your machine
Controller form factor and quality
Ease of use in a living room environment
PSN is a better more usable storefront than the Nintendo eshop (no idea how it compares to the Xbox store)
 
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Muddasar

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Look at Bloodborne for example.

If you asked Sony fanboys/trolls whether they'd prefer Sony sell the IP to FromSoftware to get a PS5 port and a sequel, but these would also release on other systems, they'd say they would prefer Sony to keep it and not use it.

These aren't real gamers. They're just fanboys. I doubt if they even play games.

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POTW. Spot on.
 

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The implications is PlayStation further devaluing their platform. You keep talking about console warriors. No, PlayStation cultivated their base for 4 decades to expect exclusive games to stay on their platform, to buy into their ecosystem for exclusive games. The same way Nintendo has cultivated their base to expect exclusives. Again, exclusives have always been what differentiates a console.

PlayStation was using the slogan "Only on PlayStation" all of PS4 generation for a reason. To act like fans are in the wrong to have a company bait and switch on them is laughable.

Now go ask Sony leadership why spent millions on GTA VI marketing... I mean why are they marketing a game that is already confirmed for Xbox? 🤣

Doesn't make any sense does it?


It's because in the eyes of sony, and spny is running the show now. Not only are they the main division, of which playstation is just a sub division. Playstation is now run by 2 CEOs, Hermen which is currently inexperienced at that level, and a sony ceo.

In the eyes of sony, playstation has become large enough to really matter to the bottom line, so more control is needed.

Furthermore they have other entertainment divisions such as music and movies. Once again in the eyes of sony making movies for just imax or music only the walkman.

Currently playstation are living in a post console war. Xbox has bend the knee that is done and dusted. Beyond that they are looking for more revenue. But this situation is that kojima wanted to be independent from the start. The biggest part of this is engine of guerrilla games is now ported to Xbox.

The thing is xbox is no longer viable platform, this was the last traditional console. Console sales have completely fallen away. Expect @Welfare everyone can agree that having 10 to 1 ratio is beyond dreamcast.


So Kojima can put his japanese game on the Xbox and without gamepass it will be great experience for all dozens of them


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Awesome. Will save us all the agro of having to read your essays.

Or are we still gonna complain about Sony?

Spoiler... will continue to complain.

I love how petty and simple-minded you guys are about this. So I can't do what's best for me as a gamer and as a customer, while still speaking on what I feel is best for different platforms and companies in the industry?

Guess what? People can do both things simultaneously. I didn't choose outright to prioritize PC & Nintendo as gaming platforms going forward: companies like Microsoft and Sony have pushed me in that direction by making series after series of baffling business decisions. Microsoft and Sony have made choices with their gaming platform hardware, software strategy etc. which do not gel with me. I do not agree with them, and for Sony it's finally reached a point where the bad outweighs the good.

So no, if you're expecting me to write any further about "what PlayStation (or Xbox) can do/should do to change things", you won't have to read it because that train is gone. I've accepted the direction SIE are going in, I don't generally agree with it, so I'm reprioritizing my customer habits going forward. Lord forbid I do what's best for me instead of cheering on a mega-conglomerate making 2% more profit next fiscal quarter as if that's somehow my money when it's not.

And just because I'm shifting/reprioritizing my gaming habits elsewhere, doesn't mean I'm suddenly not interested in PlayStation technology like PSSR, or what tech they'll have in PS6, or what 1P games they'll be releasing in the future. It doesn't "take back" the praise and complements I've given Sony over the years, just like how I don't take back the compliments I've given Microsoft/Xbox. But it's true, stuff like this compounding on other decisions SIE have already made over this gen, have reduced my interest in PlayStation as a console for me as a gamer/customer to play on.

Now that interest has just been reduced to the point where I feel I don't need to get a PS5 Pro, or buy a PS6. That's mainly what has changed. I didn't want things to play out this way, so don't lump me in with the disingenuous types or people who were always criticizing the platform. I've been a supporter of PlayStation since the PS1, so I know what the legacy of the brand is. I know it's history, I enjoy its legacy, and I like the gaming culture prior systems enabled. So it takes a LOT of mistakes for me to lose faith in the brand as far as a console platform, and lose interest in prioritizing my gaming time on future PlayStation hardware.

Yet somehow, SIE managed the impossible in just three years time. As a console, I have little enthusiasm for PlayStation anymore. As a gamer, I have little reason to prioritize a PlayStation as a platform of choice. As a platform holder, I don't have a lot of faith in SIE going forward. As a developer, I'm still interested in some of SIE's titles but care less for the Marvel influx or safe sequels. As a publisher, I don't have FOMO for most of SIE's games so I can wait however long it takes for them to go to other platforms (which is taking less and less time, anyway). As a hobbyist, I'm still interested in SIE's market performance and discussing effectiveness (or failure) of their strategies. And, as a console maker, I still have interest in learning tech SIE are working on for future PS consoles.

Wow, look at that: a multi-faceted, multi-layered perspective. See how this works!? 😂
 

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Especially when you make all your studios waste their time on a dozen GaaS games from which you already know only one or two at most might succeed.

Zero risk assessment, like an addicted gambler spending all their savings on slot machines.

All Sony studios are making GaaS games? This is how warped your mind is. You know this isn't true but you'll put it out there as if it were true.

Single player games have just as much risk because they inherently have a lower ceiling on revenue.

You inherently don't understand risk assessment or opportunity costs.
 

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Lol. It wasn't industry standard to lose so much exclusivity over the last 10 years. The era of exclusivity is ending. The era of games as the platform has come.

The only constant in nature is change itself. Nothing true has ever been said.

Losing exclusivity to PC isnt the same as going Multiplatform and releasing games on Xbox.

Coming from the generation which made alot of money with alot of exclusives it will be a mistake by Sony
 
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Its time Kojima got called out for his bs

He says partnership with Playstation but action proves otherwise
 

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Its time Kojima got called out

He says partnership with Playstation but action proves otherwise

Let’s not blame Kojima here.

Maybe Sony got sick of pumping so much money into his games.

A bit like Konami did.

Sony knew what they were getting.
 

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You clearly have no idea how business works. If you were ever in the position, good luck making payroll bud. Emplayees are one of the most expensive part of a business believe it or not.

Strange, I am in that position, and am having some relaxing times in Dubai while my employees are making money for me. Seems like I have to tell them that they are too expensive 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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Look at Bloodborne for example.

If you asked Sony fanboys/trolls whether they'd prefer Sony sell the IP to FromSoftware to get a PS5 port and a sequel, but these would also release on other systems, they'd say they would prefer Sony to keep it and not use it.

These aren't real gamers. They're just fanboys. I doubt if they even play games.

My first PS5 Pro game is Hogwarts Legacy. I don't care that it is on other systems, even the Switch. So far so good with it too, might have to replay it on PS6 so I can play fidelity with RT at 60+
Yup. So pretending this is about the life of PS is absurd. They have such a hard time letting go they would want the whole industry collapse before they see it something like that happen. Good way to put it.
 

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Strange, I am in that position, and am having some relaxing times in Dubai while my employees are making money for me. Seems like I have to tell them that they are too expensive 🤷🏻‍♂️
You don't sound like the crowd your posing as. Every business owner thinks their employees are expensive.
 
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Not needing to fiddle with settings

Tell that to whoever had the brilliant idea to have multiple modes on consoles.

Controller form factor and quality

You can use any controller, including DualSense and Edge, on PC.

Ease of use in a living room environment

So why a PlayStation and not a firestick with Luna or Gamepass if "ease of use" is the reason?

PSN is a better more usable storefront than the Nintendo eshop

So what? Nintendo has a storefront, Xbox has a storefront, Steam and Epic have one. I would argue GOG could make a difference being DRM free. I still fail to see why I should buy a PlayStation if not for their exclusive games.
 

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You can use any controller, including DualSense and Edge, on PC.
Yes but those controllers were made for the PS5, unless you're suggesting a possible future where Sony makes controllers but not consoles
not a firestick with Luna or Gamepass
Firesticks aren't consoles, they're streaming devices. Game streaming isn't viable for a myriad of reasons, but the simplest is that the high quality internet needed for it isn't common enough for it to be viable.
The playstation 5 is a console that can natively run these games, so there's less stress on your internet, and if you have the disc versions, you can physically own the games you purchase.
 
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Yup. So pretending this is about the life of PS is absurd. They have such a hard time letting go they would want the whole industry collapse before they see it something like that happen. Good way to put it.

They aren’t willing to move on either.

Simply get another platform if you think the grass is greener there.
 
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You don't sound like the crowd your posing as.

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Greetings from the Rixos Premium JBR. It's past 11pm already here, so they turned off the lights of the largest ferris wheel in the world.

Every business owner thinks their employees are expensive.

Of course they are, but you need (good) employees if you want to make money. If Sony doesn't want more, people cannot expect Sony to revive old IPs with the teams they currently have. Hence my initial response to ChatGPT beta.