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PS5 will flop at launch says analyst - when compared to PS4 anyway
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"Disappointing" results of FF16 are likely to lead to organizational changes at SE
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When the overwhelming majority would still come from the Ps5 version it would only make a minor difference at best. An Xbox version would probably only sold a few 100k at best. Pc always gets a later release
The organizational changes that Square Enix announced was that they were going to turn some of their studios or divisions into subsidiary companies to allow some external investors to invest on or even co-own only a specific area of Square Enix.
Square Enix finantials are great, no need to shut down anything:
Their stocks value are better than they have been in over 20 years and in a decade long growing trend:
SE needs a major structural change for their gaming output because they've no big break out title currently. Their profits are going down drastically this year.
how is take-two losing money?SE needs a major structural change for their gaming output because they've no big break out title currently. Their profits are going down drastically this year.
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sony had supply constraints. this is why even Xbox Series wadoing better than PS5 at the beginning of the gen. (giving false hope to thr xbox people)Same guy that said this
PS5 will flop at launch says analyst - when compared to PS4 anyway
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No you aren't getting it. This is the delusional guy who thought the PS5 would flop because it was white in color.
The organizational changes that Square Enix announced was that they were going to turn some of their studios or divisions into subsidiary companies to allow some external investors to invest on or even co-own only a specific area of Square Enix.
Square Enix finantials are great, no need to shut down anything:
Their stocks value are better than they have been in over 20 years and in a decade long growing trend:
Right, they’ve already made big changes and we haven’t seen the fruits of it yet. I’d imagine with their next round of software after FF7R part 2.
There is no doubt whatsoever FF16 is underperforming but it’s also been noted they played it mostly safe with its budget and scope and made back dev costs etc within launch window.
Even tho I was pretty disappointed with it by the time I wrapped it up I’d still be more interested in another action driven iterative sequel. Good foundation… just needs the rpg part to actually exist.
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this dosen't negate that FFXVI seems to lost its legs. but nice try moving the
It doesn’t have legs. Modest launch. Not a failure… but 10 million plus seller? No shot when Ff7r struggled its way to those player numbers after years of being given away on ps plus.
Selling thru one million used to be a big deal but AAA game development these days demands 5 million plus for most. It is what it is…
Lies, they don't need any structural change. As I shown their profits and stocks are ok and in a multi year growing trend, there's nothing wrong with it.SE needs a major structural change for their gaming output because they've no big break out title currently. Their profits are going down drastically this year.
They make amortization of the development costs, meaning they pay off the development costs of a game when it gets released. They recently did it with FFXVI in the recently reported quarter, which as can be seen in the graph I shared it meant it ate most of the profits for this quarter instead of having that cost spread across many past quarters. In the next quarter they'll continue to have traditional profits. There's nothing rare or wrong there.
Bullshit. It isn't a modest launch, it's a super successful launch for a console exclusive and will end selling more than 10M copies.
FFXVI sold 3M on launch week being exclusive of a console with 40M units sold.
FF7R sold 3.5M on launch week being exclusive of a console with over 110M units sold.
To add context:
-That FF7R launch meant the best launch for a Final Fantasy game ever
-That FF7R launch meant the fastest selling PS4 ever until then, more than the 3.3M of Spider-Man or 3.1M from GoW 2018
You have no idea of FF7R players because Square Enix never shared that data and the last sales info they shared was on launch year, 2020. Before they released it on PS5 or PC. Same goes with the FFXVI sales, the game was just released and Square Enix only released the -very good- launch sales numbers.
FF7R took 4 months to achieve 5M, so it's almost sure that FFXVI will achieve the 5M this year.
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if the very own Yoshi-P acknowledges this sentiment. Is clear that any random fan tryng to spin this game as a triumph/the best FF ever made/GOTY is in absolute denial.
when you as a company keep cash grabbing a franchise, making subpar games the only thing that you are making is damage to the brand.
The context here is that FFXVI was supposed to be the break-out game for the FF franchise according to Yoshi-P, similar to MHW, ER, and BOTW, but it seems not only did it do worse than previous mainline titles, but it's also currently struggling with post-launch sales, the opposite of what they were expecting based on the 18-month plan.
I really wanted FFXVI to be the game of the year, something that would finally make me say "Yep, I'm glad I got a PS5 at launch." Unfortunately, it fell short of that, at least for me. I played maybe 5 hours at launch, put it down, and I've only picked it up once since then, when I played for about an hour. It was a bit of a disappointment if I'm honest, so I can understand the sentiment that it has no legs, as much as I wish that wasn't the case.
These are words from Naoki Yoshida, not Yoshi-P. And isn't talking about sales.
Wrong. It sold at launch basically the same than FFVIIR but in a single console with a way smaller installbase. Meaning that it did a better job. FFXV sold 5M a launch, but it was multiplatform and released in Holidays season.
Also, could you provide the link of YoshiP saying they expected FFXVI to be their MHW/ER/BotW? Because sounds bullshit to me. Just as the made up fake news of being supposedly struggling with post-launch sales when nobody has access to such sales.
Naoki Yoshida -is- Yoshi-P. Way to throw what's left of your credibility in the toilet.
wtf lol, I had no idea. I thought they were two different persons. My fault! xDDD
It's coming to PC later, Xbox sells nothing for these types of games... that has a lot of research and history to back it up. They wouldn't skip a platform that was important to success.