European Monthly Charts November 2023 | PS5 #1 +376% YOY, Switch #2 -35% YOY and Xbox series S/X #3 -26% YOY
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Not the biggest of markets but PS5 completely obliterated the Series console in Brazil as well. We were seen as a good market for Gamepass and it was pushed hard here and but in the end PS5 came out on top with a huge market.
I love walking into a store that sells games and getting the feeling Xbox doesn't even exist, it just feels right.
I love walking into a store that sells games and getting the feeling Xbox doesn't even exist, it just feels right.
Verified (by whom) and trusted (of whom) data leak? Not trying to be contrarian or anything - just the process of verification aka asking questions. I don't necessarily think it's a big deal for these discussions but empirically speaking, and when talking with a serious tone, you do need a lot of verification, and not just take for granted whatever is fed cause this dude trusts this guy that trusts this guy, that leaked this data, who supposedly should be trusted cause this guy trusts him, cause this one time he was right, and so henceforth we should always trust. I think a healthy dose of skepticism and caution is always good and proper with any data discussion in the absence of direct hard data. That is to say, if that user on that other forum feels like he's not comfortable trusting the numbers or taking them as the end-all of the discussion he has all the right to that opinion, not just because it's his opinion but because there is sound logic behind such stance and he's not "out there" for having it, despite whatever fanboy and agenda motivation he may try to mask with said opinion. I guess if he's a proven selective twat aka a known hypocrite (with receipts in tow) then sure, that could change the verdict on the fake act. Just my observation.
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I hope you see this. thicc seems to be talking about US sales.
The European sales are unimpeachable. The numbers come straight from the sales tracker; as do the variables people used to solve for sales this year.
Bertraud Fatshit from Flubforum 7 was trying to cast doubt on the combination of the sales tracker's numbers and the concept of algebra.
Do you see why that deserves disdain and mockery?
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I'm sure we're more than likely dealing with an agenda driven fanboy and selective hypocrite (just by law of averages alone) but just trying to make the case for healthy skepticism. The whole basis of why he's supposedly wrong rests on the veracity and accuracy of the hard data "leak" from previous years and how much trust is given to that as well as the source doing the leaking. The math is not the problem, it's a basic equation.
I would be more comfortable with MS Gaming financials if they weren't cooked up by MS. Just like I take Sony's financials as the ultimate hard-data source for PlayStation - the numbers are clear and concise. All these outfits more or less can suck my dick - they're glorified intermediary data merchants. Sure they fill a market niche and are useful but still - when you can go directly to the real source, you don't need them as much. Private companies like Valve do present a problem, as well as bsing companies like MS.... hence the market niche.
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I don't know if you're glossing over my posts.
There is no leak. The sales tracker for Europe explicitly stated the total hardware numbers in an article about sales for November 2023 and 2022. They gave us percentage increases for each console and the Switch = 2 * PS5 variable for November 2022. Using that, you can mathematically solve for the numbers posted here.
Bertraud tried to say "no one knows 2021 numbers so oh well maybe Xbox rules" but 2021 numbers do not factor into the fact that Xbox sold 54k in Europe in 2023. That is a stone cold fact (with a small margin of error
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Link to tracker with explicit total hardware numbers for 2022?I don't know if you're glossing over my posts.
There is no leak. The sales tracker for Europe explicitly stated the total hardware numbers in an article about sales for November 2023 and 2022. They gave us percentage increases for each console and the Switch = 2 * PS5 variable for November 2022. Using that, you can mathematically solve for the numbers posted here.
Bertraud tried to say "no one knows 2021 numbers so oh well maybe Xbox rules" but 2021 numbers do not factor into the fact that Xbox sold 54k in Europe in 2023. That is a stone cold fact (with a small margin of error
Pokémon and God of War can’t prevent November sales slump | European Monthly Charts
Nintendo Switch was the No.1 console, but sales are down
www.gamesindustry.biz
Pokémon and God of War can’t prevent November sales slump | European Monthly Charts
Nintendo Switch was the No.1 console, but sales are down
So I'm assuming the breakdown for November 2022 was based on extrapolation of 2021 explicit splits? Absent an explicit split for 2022?
All you need is the Nintendo explicit split or, a labyrinth going back years until you get a proper explicit split number for any of the 3 platforms - and then each year work the numbers on an estimate basis, or a "trusted" leak. Eventually if you do enough permutations, the margin for error will increase exponentially. At some point you need a "leak" to confirm the results over a span of several years, a "trusted" leak at that, just for the sake of consistency.
Much better to just stick to hard-data Sony financials for example, even if they do leave out regional breakdown on each financial release, and only do so once in a while.
Regardless all of this is inconsequential.
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so is it 1,218,000 including germany? where did that number come fromYou're right, it was a mistake on my part.
I've edited my comment
Fucking hell man, I give up. Go read my posts, or learn algebra.
x + y + z = 690
0.65x + 4.76y + 0.74z = 1300
x >= 2y
I made the mistake of counting the UK twice.
We don't have any data for Germany, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's more or less the same as UK.
You're correct. For some reason I thought we did not have explicit 2023 hardware totals (didn't read the article). Although there are ways to get there too, provided how much info you get. Thus if going blind on that, you gotta base it on splits or other info to get you across the hump.
Yes, that user is bullshitting if he takes these exercises seriously anyway aka flip flop. You should not get worked up on this, this is the process of proving your stance on something, and it's why it should be done. Agenda fanboys are a dime a dozen, eventually they let it slip - specially console war oriented. I guess you do get the kick of watching them slip and squirm when they do - natural satisfaction you could say for dishonest bsers.
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Xbox series x is outselling ps5 in the uk
The price cut will help ms to defeat ps5 on December
The price cut will help ms to defeat ps5 on December
Well most of us pointed around launch that the situation was worse than what they had with Xbox One
But it was “countered” by “the buzz word is the best ever for a Xbox console” lol
