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LMFAO!! Not going to lie, that would be fucking hilarious if it goes on PS+ before Game Pass. Wow.
Finally a new xbox release!
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Isn't that the Boogie guy??? Either way, I don't care or have any interest in Deathloop (or Ghostwire Tokyo) so neither affect me. But it would be funny if the rumor happens. We'll know for sure soon.
I'm not sure what point you are making lol.. the whole point is if Xbox'ers don't buy games, and nobody is really paying for Gamepass, then Xbox certainly wouldn't have seen that growth as the theory I see is people stopped spending money because of Gamepass.
XBox grew at a faster rate too.
I don't use my Xbox(s), the 1st party output has been bad.. but all the theories that it's just some huge money pit and no Xbox fans spend money are just... well bad theories.
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I dont think any xbox game has charted on the NPD. That right there shows you that they aren’t really spending money on games.
Halo Infinite charted 2nd behind COD.
December 2021 NPD: Halo Infinite has strong debut on the sales charts
The December 2021 NPD gaming report reveals a strong launch for Halo and an ongoing console shortage that is dragging down the industry.
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But.. come on now.. the game was on Gamepass... any game day 1 on Gamepass is going to sell less, obviously.
But Xbox gamers are clearly.. buying games.. those not on Gamepass (the other half of their userbase), and those on Gamepass buy 3rd party games.
Most actual sales numbers we are told reveal Xbox'ers buy games at a greater margin than the console userbase difference. It's over 2:1, but most games seem to sell about ~30-50% less. Likely due to the fact the PS4 userbase is so large it's numbers are more inflated by people who own multiple. And just being the most popular is going to attract casuals.
Also 3rd parties have a touch more competition on Playstation LOL
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Halo Infinite charted 2nd behind COD.
December 2021 NPD: Halo Infinite has strong debut on the sales charts
The December 2021 NPD gaming report reveals a strong launch for Halo and an ongoing console shortage that is dragging down the industry.
But.. come on now.. the game was on Gamepass... any game day 1 on Gamepass is going to sell less, obviously.
But Xbox gamers are clearly.. buying games.. those not on Gamepass (the other half of their userbase), and those on Gamepass buy 3rd party games.
For one specific month out of the year with no other major game releases lol
But look at the list for 2022 or the past 12 months, there are no xbox games
June 2022 NPD: Top 10 best-selling games of the last 12 months
| Rank | Last Month Rank | All Platforms | Publisher |
| 1 | 1 | Elden Ring | Bandai Namco Entertainment |
| 2 | 2 | Call of Duty: Vanguard | Activision Blizzard (Corp) |
| 3 | 3 | Madden NFL 22 | Electronic Arts |
| 4 | 4 | Pokemon: Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl* | Nintendo |
| 5 | 5 | LEGO Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga | Warner Bros. Interactive |
| 6 | 6 | Battlefield 2042 | Electronic Arts |
| 7 | 7 | FIFA 22 | Electronic Arts |
| 8 | 8 | Far Cry 6 | Ubisoft |
| 9 | 9 | Pokémon Legends: Arceus* | Nintendo |
| 10 | 11 | Horizon II: Forbidden West | Sony (Corp) |
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Easy to chart when theres no other game releases, the next month it was non-existent, it could have sold 1000 copies, which is very likely
Yes I'm sure Pokemon sold less than 1000 copies in December. The US basically does no shopping that month, ever.
Thanks for your brilliant totally not a fanboy troll analysis.
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January top 10
| January 2022 | Publisher | ||
| 1 | NEW | Pokemon Legends: Arceus* | Nintendo |
| 2 | 1 | Call of Duty: Vanguard | Activision Blizzard (Corp) |
| 3 | 94 | Monster Hunter: Rise | Capcom USA |
| 4 | 4 | Madden NFL 22 | Electronic Arts |
| 5 | 146 | God of War (2018) | Sony (Corp) |
| 6 | 7 | Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales | Sony (Corp) |
| 7 | 11 | FIFA 22 [EA Sports] | Electronic Arts |
| 8 | 6 | Mario Kart 8* | Nintendo |
| 9 | NEW | Rainbow Six: Extraction [Tom Clancy’s] | Ubisoft |
| 10 | 5 | Battlefield 2042 | Electronic Arts |
Don't acknowledge you were wrong.. move goal post... claim the #2 game in the US during the #1 month of the year for gaming "could have sold 1,000 copies"
You have 2 options bro..
You are a troll..
Or, well.. not supposed to suggest the other option because my Mommy said to not say anything at all if I didn't have anything nice to say.
You have 2 options bro..
You are a troll..
Or, well.. not supposed to suggest the other option because my Mommy said to not say anything at all if I didn't have anything nice to say.
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From what is a objective fact. Posting one first party game selling in december almost kind of proves that games are not selling outside of gamepass in any significant metric
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Obviously, Microsoft's first party games will sell less due to Game Pass because unless you're a collector, why would anyone buy their games day one or even on a sale? The last Microsoft first party game I bought was State of Decay 2 ultimate edition day one for $50 in 2018. Have played Gears 5, Gears Tactics, Gears Hivebusters and Halo Infinite (campaign) all via Game Pass. If/when Sony puts their first party games on PlayStation Plus day one, I will no longer buy their games either. I'm currently waiting for Ubisoft to put Ubisoft+ which includes all of their day one releases and DLC/expansions on Xbox as a separate subscription service because why would I or anyone pay $60+ to play a game when you can pay $10-$15 for a monthly rental, accomplish the same exact goal which is to complete the game and move on to your next game for a far cheaper price?
From launch to date, I have bought spent $600 on digital purchases and $300 on physical disc purchases with another $250 incoming between September and December for Xbox Series X. But if any of the games im buying go on Game Pass day one, they're then highly unlikely to be purchased. For Microsoft, sales isn't what they care about the most. Game Pass is. Getting consumers into their eco-system via console, PC or Cloud is what they care about.
I do believe that Starfield will get 10m+ in sales because majority will buy on PC via Steam and those who are collector's or just massive Bethesda Game Studio fans will buy the game digitally or physically on Xbox. Other than Starfield, I don't see many of Microsoft's first party games selling all that well but at the same time, that's not their direction or focus.
From launch to date, I have bought spent $600 on digital purchases and $300 on physical disc purchases with another $250 incoming between September and December for Xbox Series X. But if any of the games im buying go on Game Pass day one, they're then highly unlikely to be purchased. For Microsoft, sales isn't what they care about the most. Game Pass is. Getting consumers into their eco-system via console, PC or Cloud is what they care about.
I do believe that Starfield will get 10m+ in sales because majority will buy on PC via Steam and those who are collector's or just massive Bethesda Game Studio fans will buy the game digitally or physically on Xbox. Other than Starfield, I don't see many of Microsoft's first party games selling all that well but at the same time, that's not their direction or focus.
Yes, day 1 game pass games who only have ~25 million people to sell to aren't going to chart for months against games that have 100-150 million people to sell to.
They are going up against 3rd party games who generally have the entire Xbox + Playstation userbase to sell to, or PS exclusives that have 100+ million or Switch exclusives that have 100+ million.
You've cracked the code, that proves Xbox gamers "don't buy games"..
All the stats prove Xbox gamers are still buying 3rd party games at a same or better rate than Playstation gamers. That's despite the chance these games "might" come to Gamepass later... but... honestly? Most.. don't.
The Xbox sells a lot less games than Playstation does for 3rd party but the difference boils down to userbase, not whether that the users of those platforms are buying games at a significantly lower rate.
There are just, less, a lot less, Xbox gamers.
Xbox 1st party games are bought at a significantly lower rate... for rather obvious reasons: they are included in a sub half that userbase has. Leaving a market that is like 1/6th the size of the overall Xbox + Playstation market to sell to.
They are going up against 3rd party games who generally have the entire Xbox + Playstation userbase to sell to, or PS exclusives that have 100+ million or Switch exclusives that have 100+ million.
You've cracked the code, that proves Xbox gamers "don't buy games"..
All the stats prove Xbox gamers are still buying 3rd party games at a same or better rate than Playstation gamers. That's despite the chance these games "might" come to Gamepass later... but... honestly? Most.. don't.
The Xbox sells a lot less games than Playstation does for 3rd party but the difference boils down to userbase, not whether that the users of those platforms are buying games at a significantly lower rate.
There are just, less, a lot less, Xbox gamers.
Xbox 1st party games are bought at a significantly lower rate... for rather obvious reasons: they are included in a sub half that userbase has. Leaving a market that is like 1/6th the size of the overall Xbox + Playstation market to sell to.
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Agreed. Even im starting to feel that way with the new PS PLUS, having so many games on the service people are gonna feel that devaluation. You cant tell new ps5 players they can have very big first party game right away (aside from horizon, gt7, rift apart, tlou2) and then tell them two months later the new one coming out is 70.
Thats pretty much what microsoft has been doing for years now. No one is gonna rush out and buy starfield day one unless there is some early access for it which is what i think will happen just like forza. They will try and recoup the gamepass cost that starfield will take.
As for it selling 10 million+ I almost bet my life it won’t. There maybe a half million sales on xbox and maybe another 5m on pc players who need to play it on steam
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Where’s the actual data here? Lol this sounds like some zeus level ass pullin
I have yet to see any chart or listing that supports this idea
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