Yeah lossing to BG3 isnt a failure.. FF16 was scored quite highly, which was the point I was making about you calling it shit
Flop! Metaphor: ReFantazio debuts at number 37 on Xbox (Atlus 35th Digital Anniversary Edition at number 555).
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Yeah lossing to BG3 isnt a failure.. FF16 was scored quite highly, which was the point I was making about you calling it shit
Or, it's possible the game is selling less on PS5 than SEGA/Atlus were expecting. Which in the West, would not be surprising since no marketing has mentioned PlayStation, and WOM is driven primarily through Steam because that's where most of the streamers who push WOM play these games.
The silver lining in that could be, that SEGA/Atlus reconsider such a marketing deal going forward if PS5 sales underperform for the game, and sales on Steam & Xbox aren't enough to overcome a deficit. It'd show them that there are very real consequences to omitting the main platform (or at least one of your main platforms) from advertising outside of Asia (where non-Nintendo consoles aren't faring too well this gen between declining install base growth & super low software sales in regions like Japan).
Also keep in mind this game is NOT in Game Pass so Xbox would have to pull that much more weight in software sales for the game. I have very strong doubts it can manage that, though to MS's credit they've been running TV adverts for it pretty well at least on TV like during Toonami blocks.
The game had its best position on steam at 3 which is not saying much as even ragnarok and ff16 were at least ranked 1 for a couple of days and we saw how that turned out, hasn't breached top 10 on the us ps store, has not hit top 5 in any of the major western ps stores and seemingly has not even breached top 20 on xbox.
The game may deserve its accolades and seems to be a great jrpg from impressions (not my cup of tea) but there is a crowd that wants to make this a bigger success than it is to use as ammo to dunk on final fantasy which I find ridiculous.
I also dont think a million in sales is what Sega/atlus wanted after putting the veterans of p-studio to work for 7 years on this new IP.
Many things were said about the draconian marketing deal Xbox had for Metaphor. It was forbidden for Atlus to put the PS version in any marketing material (trailers, YouTube, twitter). They even had actors hiding the PS logo at TGS.
A lot of people were confused if the game was even coming to PlayStation at all or it was full Xbox exclusive.
Well, it finally came out to incredible reviews...but it only managed to debut at 37 on Xbox. The deluxe edition "Atlus 35th Digital Anniversary Edition" is at number 555 on page 7.
To give you an idea how bad this is. Fear 3 on Xbox 360 is at number 11, Predator Hunting Grounds at number 13, Stray at 28
Do you think it was worth it for Atlus to alienate their main customers for a Xbox deal? Please vote.
OMG, who tf cares about Xbox sales numbers? And the conspiracy theories in the OP? Lmao.
Hardcore PS fans are some of the most insufferable people.
a xbox marketing deal doesnt alienate their "main customers." lol. Stop with the console warring brain rot. Xbox made the better offer then Sony. So they got the deal. Game can be purchased day 1 on Playstation. People who actually enjoy their games know that. Tell your darlings at Sony to fork over more cash if they want marketing deals.Many things were said about the draconian marketing deal Xbox had for Metaphor. It was forbidden for Atlus to put the PS version in any marketing material (trailers, YouTube, twitter). They even had actors hiding the PS logo at TGS.
A lot of people were confused if the game was even coming to PlayStation at all or it was full Xbox exclusive.
Well, it finally came out to incredible reviews...but it only managed to debut at 37 on Xbox. The deluxe edition "Atlus 35th Digital Anniversary Edition" is at number 555 on page 7.
To give you an idea how bad this is. Fear 3 on Xbox 360 is at number 11, Predator Hunting Grounds at number 13, Stray at 28
Do you think it was worth it for Atlus to alienate their main customers for a Xbox deal? Please vote.
This is honestly the whole of Resetera atm. They have been propping up SEGA to dunk on Square and honestly its pathetic. You can't spend over a year telling everyone the new AAA FFs are flops for selling 2-3 million when you also praise SEGA for selling under a million copies of Metaphor on 2 extra platform
IMO that possibility I believe is very hard to be happening but who know.
Let's see the UK and Japan data to have a better ideia about PS5 sales.
I don't think that has nothing to do with Resetera at all but the games you guys are comparing.
This game was very sucessful sales wise for Square Enix and shipped + digital reached 1 million with 3 weeks instead one like Metaphor.
At the same time Persona 5 break the niche bubble and reached sales only old FFs had beween JRPGs while FFs can't do it for near a decade.
Metaphor is a new IP spin off of before long niche JRPG franchise (Persona 5 was the first spin off in the franchise to reach mainstream level)... you could not expect to compare it with a new entry from a old successful mainstream franchise like FF.
Metaphor is like the Square Enix's Octopath when released in 2018.
And at launch it is doing better than Octopath (maybe because it didn't release on PS4 where the biggest JRPG fanbase where at time).
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Exactly! Every news about the laughable 1 million shipments is filled with people disparaging Square and FF like they should be jealous of Atlus.
High CCU on Steam but low everywhere else is supposed to be this huge achievement? Metaphor is already losing steam (hehe) at number 6 on global sellers. Sales estimations between 200k to 300k
But you brought FF to this threadExactly! Every news about the laughable 1 million shipments is filled with people disparaging Square and FF like they should be jealous of Atlus.
High CCU on Steam but low everywhere else is supposed to be this huge achievement? Metaphor is already losing steam (hehe) at number 6 on global sellers. Sales estimations between 200k to 300k
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Famitsu, Germany, France, UK, you name it, they were tracking down and discussing every chart for FF but the sales of Metaphor on a whole platform is not worth discussing?
The were still tracking every weekly sales in random countries months later. Keep the same energy.
And it's not a conspiracy, PushSquare even wrote an article about that weird marketing deal.
Atlus Really Doesn't Want You to Know Metaphor: ReFantazio Is Coming to PS5
Lost like tears in the rain
www.pushsquare.com
I mean BG3 pretty much overshadowed every game last year, including Zelda. I’m not sure why you would hold that against FF 16.
Personally, third party publishers SHOULD market their games with Xbox instead of PlayStation because their fan base/sales on PlayStation is already set to be what it's going to be while on Xbox, it would make much more logical sense for them to advertise there in order to build a fan base on that platform so it can grow in time.
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All the Personas were there, even on gamepass and it still debuted at number 37. Where's the growth? This is the same BS y'all keep parroting but there's never any growth.
It grew in China where Xbox is non-existent lol
Growth doesn't happen overnight or with one game. For a lot of franchises, it took years and multiple games to grow on PlayStation. It will take just as long or longer to grow on Xbox. The main issue is publishers being consistent with their releases. If they release one game but skip the next entry and then expect the third to grow when they screwed over those who were into the first game but couldn't play the second, are delusional.
Don't see why 37 is bad. There's thousands of games on Xbox and you're acting like 37 is 3700. I seriously don't know or understand what some of you are expecting from a new IP in a niche genre on a platform that just started getting Persona games two years ago? These games are niche even on PlayStation. Let's say for argument sake that Metaphor sold 1m all on PlayStation. Since it's on PS4/PS5, that's 180m console owners out there and 179m said as of now fuck this game.
Yeah, I know there's a decent amount of overlap but you get the point. Why you and others have to keep shitting on Xbox getting these games when you should want the publishers to be everywhere so their games can get bigger and be more successful is beyond me. It's like, all you care about is your plastic box and that's it which is hilarious because that just tells me that you're not an actual fan of in this case, Sega/Atlus because you and others feel betrayed or some shit.
Why can't people here just want great games to do great everywhere so the respective publisher and developer can grow, get more popular and be more successful in the future?
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No it didn't, Persona and Yakuza were huge on PlayStation since the start. It didn't take 20 years. Same for TLOU, GOT, GOW and many new IPs, huge right at the beginning. At this rate, they would never greenlight any games if it took years of courtship before buying a fucking game.
Number 37 on a platform that doesn't buy any games is absolutely awful, single digits sales per day. Preorders included.
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No it didn't, Persona and Yakuza were huge on PlayStation since the start. It didn't take 20 years. Same for TLOU, GOT, GOW and many new IPs, huge right at the beginning. At this rate, they would never greenlight any games if it took years of courtship before buying a fucking game.
Number 37 on a platform that doesn't buy any games is absolutely awful, single digits sales per day. Preorders included.
Xbots playing hard to get like Miss Bougie Big Boobs when they're lucky to get just the tip
No, they weren't. The Persona series as a whole is under 23m units sold total in the entire history which dates back to the original Persona on PlayStation. Yakuza is under 22m as a series total in 20 years since PlayStation 2 in 2005. Stop acting like these games sell 10m+ copies with every entry. COD BO 6 will basically outsell both of them individually as a series with one single release. Neither Persona or Yakuza are fucking huge and if they were, why would Sega/Atlus need to leave PlayStation and go on PC and Xbox? Maybe it's because Ponies talk a good fucking game but don't buy shit but like to act as if they do. Even better is that since PlayStation is the be all end all, even Sony is porting their games to PC, Xbox and Switch. But yep, PlayStation is HUGE and MASSIVE for all of these games. Seriously, what a fucking joke.
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The Yakuza games were a cultural phenomenon in Japan when they were PS-exclusive (after Xbox and Nintendo both rejected it). The sales were relatively low compared to COD because Sega never bothered to actually release them in Western markets.
We literally couldn't buy them. Blame Sega.