Source: Newzoo
One platform is on the decline from its high (PC) while the other has consistently grown (consoles)
Nice counter to both Spencer FUD and PC Masterbaiter spam.
From 2017-2023, the console games market has grown +59%. PC only +37%; has shrunk since 2022
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Source: Newzoo
One platform is on the decline from its high (PC) while the other has consistently grown (consoles)
Nice counter to both Spencer FUD and PC Masterbaiter spam.
The funny thing is that people thought a bunch of companies paying their employees to buy new computers for WFH was equivalent to PC gaming growing
PC gaming is stagnating because of price gouging by nvidia and AMD following suit
PC gaming is stagnating because of price gouging by nvidia and AMD following suit
PlayStation pushed further into PC ports based on lockdown stats.
Reality since didn't live up to the expectations.
Reality since didn't live up to the expectations.
Can someone tell Totoki
It’s growing in revenue cause things are costing more and MTX are going up. NOT cause the console base itself is growing
Xbox is going down massively and it's bringing down the whole market. It's not Gen-Z fault or whatever Phil shat out that morning.
Playstation is still growing for now...they just have to stop following Xbox playbook.
Playstation is still growing for now...they just have to stop following Xbox playbook.
The price of PC parts also went up record high. Facepalm yourself.It’s growing in revenue cause things are costing more and MTX are going up. NOT cause the console base itself is growing
and? steam most played charts are all multiplayer gaas with mtx out the wazzooIt’s growing in revenue cause things are costing more and MTX are going up. NOT cause the console base itself is growing
Did you just tell me that console players willing to pay for the software? That's somehow negative?It’s growing in revenue cause things are costing more and MTX are going up. NOT cause the console base itself is growing
The console market also declined after you adjust for inflation. $51.8B on a 6.5% global inflation in 2023 would need to make $55.2B in that year to keep the same effective revenue. Instead it got $53.1B.
Phil lies, a lot, but he's just repeating what many other industry execs have been saying since their yearly 2023 results started coming out in March.
All these layoffs worldwide aren't happening because suddenly all gamedev managers became incompetent. They're happening because the global videogame market finally saw its ceiling and it's not going to improve anytime soon.
They were making games on the assumption that the market would continue to grow, but that assumption is gone. They were making too many games (and too expensive).
Here come the resident PC/Xbox shills to tell you how hard data is wrong.
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They're happening because the global economy is in a recession, in real terms, and they over-hired during COVID and the era of free money.
Doesn't change the fact that PC is heavily down by that same measure.
As someone who played on PCs since the 90s, PC has never been this boring both in the hardware and in the software front.
Yet Steam is breaking records left and right.
And how do we know the stats in the first post is accurate?
Ancient PCs still run Steam and a lot of the most popular games on Steam like CS and Dota.
Just like a lot of moist popular games on console is Fortnite, FIFA, CoD, the same old stuff.
However, SP games nowadays are breaking records on Steam. Of course you are not gonna see Resident Evil Village on Steams top 50 list nowadays, yet CapCom reported recording breaking sales numbers for the PC verison.
SP games will have great numbers in the week of launch, then dwindle down. Just like on consoles. However we are not talking consoles numbers since Xboxa nd Playstation doesn't show live ccu numbers.
We have sales numbers on a lot of console games to know they are selling pretty well. In the PS3 era Sony would kill to have games selling 10m+ now that is expected of their AAA releases.
They do indeed sell well, so does PC games on Steam. There's a reason CapCom is having PC as it's lead platform, why SEGA threatened to abandon the Judgment series if they weren't allowed to put the games on Steam. SEGA also stated how important Steam was to reach out to a more global audience, mainly with Yakuza 0.
Playstation is releasing on Steam to reach regions that otherwise don't care about consoles.
There are games that also are only on Switch and Steam such as Daemon x Machina and Triangle Stratgy. Or PS5 and Steam, like Granblue Fantasy, Nioh, VII Remake etc.
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CCUseless.
Those records clearly don't matter, and Playstation broke an MAU record in December anyway.
PC gaming is dying - the market is shrinking globally and it's falling even harder in major global economies like France and the UK.
You are so wrong Im not sure why I should bother with you anymore.
PC gaming is not dying regardless how many times you type those words. Maybe you want it to die, but it's growing.