Ftc to file antitrust lawsuit rumor against Microsoft. This getting deep!

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Darth Vader

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The best of that was on Twitter with a lot of greens trying to cancel Jason 😂





And he's right. Also, politico is super credible, they even released some of SCOTUS stuff before it was public.
 

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Yeah the FTC, CMA, EU, everybody is a Sony fanboy.

Or... They actually have a brain and see what MS is trying to do.
What are they trying to do? Making Activision games exclusive? They have every right to, it will be owned by them. How is this unfair competitiveness!!
 
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What are they trying to do? Making Activision games exclusive? They have every right to, it will be owned by them. How is this unfair competitiveness!!
Because it hasn't just been Activision but other large acquisitions. COD is a beloved staple and ppl will buy whatever console has it some even if they don't want to own that console. That is not competitive. It's like when AT&T was the monopoly or spectrum cable in nyc and ppl would say "oh u have options" no the hell we didn't if we wanted 1gig internet we couldn't get it bcus it wasnt offered by spectrum, our area had a deal where only spectrum could service it. Hey I want to play COD, well you can only play it on pc or Xbox so u have to buy tht console. This game has been multiplat for generations and isn't comparable to first party offerings that have been first party since its inception.

There's alot of big differences.
 

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Yes, FTC is run by Sony, that's why they let Bethesda pass through.
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What are they trying to do? Making Activision games exclusive? They have every right to, it will be owned by them. How is this unfair competitiveness!!

everytime i red stupid things like this i ask myself if these people are just plain trolling
 

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Because it hasn't just been Activision but other large acquisitions. COD is a beloved staple and ppl will buy whatever console has it some even if they don't want to own that console. That is not competitive. It's like when AT&T was the monopoly or spectrum cable in nyc and ppl would say "oh u have options" no the hell we didn't if we wanted 1gig internet we couldn't get it bcus it wasnt offered by spectrum, our area had a deal where only spectrum could service it. Hey I want to play COD, well you can only play it on pc or Xbox so u have to buy tht console. This game has been multiplat for generations and isn't comparable to first party offerings that have been first party since its inception.

There's alot of big differences.
I'm not agreeing with COD becoming exclusive but The FTC have no right to block this deal. video gaming is an expensive hobby and exclusivity has always been part of the industry, You want it go work your ass off and pay for it, plain simple. This is not food or internet service 😂 you are not going to die if you didn't play COD.
 
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Honestly I would be shocked if this doesn't go thru, I think Microsoft will accept some draw backs like Call of Duty has to stay multiplat but I do not see them abandoning this deal. They can still make a ton of money from the mobile stuff and break into new markets. However if the FTC is looking to sue (How does that even work?) I wonder if microsoft will be able to buy any new gaming companies after this?
MS would make more money keeping CoD and the rest of Activision Blizzard multiplatform than making it exclusive. Buying ABK and putting all their games day one on GP means they'll lose billions with this acquisition.

To make Activision Blizzard games console exclusive, particularly CoD, means that they'll lose even more billions. To make CoD console exclusive wouldn't almost change the console market, it would only mean that MS would leave more money on the table.

Looking at the market data MS -even adding ABK numbers without removing what they would stop earning by making their games console exclusive or including them day one on GP- won't be close to have a monopoly, in fact will be still far from being market leader in gaming and in the different gaming markets. So all regulators should approve this acquisition.

And as MS said multiple times, they'll keep CoD multiplatform because it's what makes financial sense for them. But I think they'll negotiate to get something from Sony to try to get something in exchange. I think Jim Ryan knows it and this is why he doesn't buy their bullshit.

MS said that they'll continue acquiring companies after ABK, so they'll do it independently of if this acquisition gets approved or not. Regarding what companies are they going to buy, it will depend of what companies they want to buy, if these companies are willing to sell and in this case if nobody else buy them before and if they are willing to sell particularly to MS.

If the ftc is thinking this way it’s probably a lot worse in Europe and other markets. I think Sonys smart move should be ask for a 10-12 years extension and agreement that Microsoft won’t acquire any more game studios for like 5-7 years. Then make some moves themselves.
  • The best option for Sony is to get the acquisition blocked and some regulator forbidding CoD to be exclusive from a console or game sub. Or at least to get the acquisition blocked claiming MS already lied to regulators claiming they wouldn't turn the main Bethesda IPs console exclusive so they expect that MS is lying again when said they'll keep CoD on PS and that MS already mentioned that they'll keep the ABK games exclusives for their game sub and cloud gaming. Or well, maybe some investigation like the FTC one gets too long to the point that they can't close the acquisition before July, meaning that they acquisition gets blocked.
  • The second best option would be that it gets approved but some regulator forces MS to keep CoD multi forever both in consoles, game subs and cloud gaming.
  • The third one would be the acquisition getting approved but MS getting forced to keep CoD multi forever at least in consoles.
  • The 4th one would be the acquisition getting approved with no regulator asking MS to do anything, but MS deciding by themselves to keep CoD on PS forever without receiving anything from Sony in exchange.
  • The 5th one would be the acquisition getting approved, MS making all Activision Blizzard console exclusive once possible after their Sony deals end and that causes loses big enough for MS higher ups deciding to sell or shut down the MS gaming division or at least kill the Xbox console, to stop putting games day one on GP and make a Sega to move to go full 3rd party in consoles. And at the same time some of the Sony shooters that are under development becoming super successful replacing CoD, Overwatch and on a lower scale Halo, Gears and Doom.
  • The 6th one would be that gets approved, Activision Blizzard goes console exclusive when possible, as a result they get way less relevant, basically only a few users move from PS to Xbox and Sony's shooters end being more successful than the MS ones.
  • The 7th would be that gets approved, they get exclusive when possible and MS leads on the shooter genre but Sony continues dominating MS on console sales, console MAU, game subs, 1st party game sales, console game sales and revenue, game subs subscribers, game subs revenue and profit and overall gaming revenue.
  • The 8th would be that the acquisition gets approved and Sony acceeds to pay or give MS whatever they ask for to get CoD for the next 10 years.
 
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I'm not agreeing with COD becoming exclusive but The FTC have no right to block this deal. video gaming is an expensive hobby and exclusivity has always been part of the industry, You want it go work your ass off and pay for it, plain simple. This is not food or internet service 😂 you are not going to die if you didn't play COD.

They absolutely have the right to block this deal, same with other regulatory entities. That's their job, to evaluate if an acquisition can lessen competition and then either allow it or block it. Regulatory entities do not regulate base necessities only, they regulate all industries. The CMA blocked Giphy's acquisition by Facebook, for example.

This quote means that the headline is totally misleading since they still to have a decision and nobody voted.

Wrong. Look at the title. They say it's likely based on their sources, not that it's guaranteed.

Feds likely to challenge Microsoft’s $69 billion Activision takeover

then at the first paragraph

The Federal Trade Commission is likely to file an antitrust lawsuit to block Microsoft’s $69 billion takeover of video game giant Activision Blizzard, maker of the hit games Call of Duty and Candy Crush, according to three people with knowledge of the matter.

and then context

A lawsuit challenging the deal is not guaranteed, and the FTC’s four commissioners have yet to vote out a complaint or meet with lawyers for the companies, two of the people said. However, the FTC staff reviewing the deal are skeptical of the companies’ arguments, those people said.

The investigation remains ongoing, but much of the heavy lifting is completed, including depositions of Microsoft chief executive Satya Nadella and Activision head Bobby Kotick, the people with knowledge of the investigation said. If the agency does move ahead with a case, it could come as soon as next month, said the people, all of whom were granted anonymity to discuss a confidential matter.


Politico is a very credible publication btw.
 

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They absolutely have the right to block this deal, same with other regulatory entities. That's their job, to evaluate if an acquisition can lessen competition and then either allow it or block it. Regulatory entities do not regulate base necessities only, they regulate all industries. The CMA blocked Giphy's acquisition by Facebook, for example.
Sony paying Konami and Square Enix for exclusivity, while yelling how a first party MS-activision exclusivity is unfair. The hypocrisy is incredible 💀
 
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My general thinking is that this is still theater to dress a "compromise" that allows it to pass through.

But in the low probability that this doesn't go through... I think this should speak a lot on Nadella's leadership (or lack thereof) and MS continued trouble handling their money men in Washington and New York. When Bezos smacks them around getting their contracts cancelled that's a big fat red flag. Apple, Google and Bezos money bags ain't messing around.
 
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Sony paying Konami and Square Enix for exclusivity, while yelling how a first party MS-activision exclusivity is unfair. The hypocrisy is incredible 💀

Paying for select game exclusivity (by sometimes funding and helping development) does not equate buying a publisher to make it first party. I don't necessarily agree with paying for exclusivity, but damn, they're not even on the same realm.
 

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Paying for select game exclusivity (by sometimes funding and helping development) does not equate buying a publisher to make it first party. I don't necessarily agree with paying for exclusivity, but damn, they're not even on the same realm.
you can't even tell, if it is exclusivity bought. a lot of developers just choose not to release games on xbox, and xbots blames PS for it, like wtf?
there are even deals happening because the game has no publisher, so sony risk to publish, so that's where exclusivity can come from.
some IP holders approach for funding and gives exclusivity, like Marvel did with Spider Man, they approach M$, but they declined, so Sony grabbed them( so now sony is guilty). the same happened with KOTOR.
or exclusivity comes when developers has no funds to create game and said game would maybe never came, like SF5.
 
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When Bezos smacks them around getting their contracts cancelled that's a big fat red flag. Apple, Google and Bezos money bags ain't messing around.
That is another issue as well, but I doubt that even combined those companies can do anywhere near the damage that Microsoft does.

Oh well, at least they're trying to cancel eachother.
 
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