Game Pass Reportedly Has Over 15M Players On PC | 10M on XBOX Consoles

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Actually it's not, let's compare it to the competition. the new PS+ is made of 2 subscriptions merged together in June 2022. the PS+ which is a multiplayer paywall equivalent to Xbox Live Gold and had 44m subs as of June 2022. and PS Now the service equivalent to Game Pass which had 3.2 million subscribers on both PC+Consoles combined as of June 2022. on the other side, Game Pass reached 15 million subs only on PC, and 10 million subs on consoles (if we go by this data)
so you're actually looking at +25 million subs for Game Pass on PC+Console VS +3 million subs for PS Now on PC+Consoles.
it's also worth noting that PS Now launched in January 2014 while PC GamePass launched only in June 2019.
PS Now offers a library of +400 games like gamepass and it reached 3.2 million as of June 2022 on both consoles and PC combined. out of the total 47 million New PS+ number 44 million are PS+ subs, a multiplayer paywall subscription that doesn't offer a library of games like GamePass.

it looks like GamePass is doing exceptionally well VS the competition.
All of that would be valid if… PS+ was Sony’s main product and it isn’t. So all you said is moot.
 
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I'm just now seeing this. If those numbers are real and accurate Game Pass is a disaster of a service and Xbox literally has zero going for it. The ABK acquisition is basically a scorched earth policy. I can't believe how badly that division has failed. Just. Make. Good. Games.

Unbelievable.

I've long been frustrated with MS because it's always something else that is the focus - world's most powerful console, TV TV TV, Game Pass, etc. The 360 era proved they once had the management and talent to produce great games, but it's been so long since then. When put side by side with Sony and Nintendo, the issue is even clearer. But somehow this simple message, that gamers want to play great games, continues to elude current MS leadership. And I don't see this changing because, despite all the studios and developers they already have, they're now focusing on acquisitions over releasing games.
 

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I've long been frustrated with MS because it's always something else that is the focus - world's most powerful console, TV TV TV, Game Pass, etc. The 360 era proved they once had the management and talent to produce great games, but it's been so long since then. When put side by side with Sony and Nintendo, the issue is even clearer. But somehow this simple message, that gamers want to play great games, continues to elude current MS leadership. And I don't see this changing because, despite all the studios and developers they already have, they're now focusing on acquisitions over releasing games.
That’s what happens when you have games industry vets running the show for a few years and then they all leave and get replaced with Redmond lifers.

Everything goes to shit.
 

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I'm 1000% serious, and this is the truth. Game Pass is destroying its main competitor, PS Now or the extra+premium tiers which had only 3.2 million subscribers as of June 2022 on Both PC and Console combined. Game Pass has +25 million subscribers on PC+Console.
PS+ aka essential tier is a multiplayer paywall that doesn't offer a library of games. and it's equivalent to Live Gold.
you're looking at +25 millions subs VS +3 million subs.
Is that you @adamsapple
 

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I've long been frustrated with MS because it's always something else that is the focus - world's most powerful console, TV TV TV, Game Pass, etc. The 360 era proved they once had the management and talent to produce great games, but it's been so long since then. When put side by side with Sony and Nintendo, the issue is even clearer. But somehow this simple message, that gamers want to play great games, continues to elude current MS leadership. And I don't see this changing because, despite all the studios and developers they already have, they're now focusing on acquisitions over releasing games.
What were the great games they produced during the 360 era? I had a 360 and still felt the need to buy a PS3 because of how much more interesting the PS3 lineup was.

They bought 4 Gears of Wars, produced 4 Halo games and 5 Forza games in that gen. You can't get more uninspiring than that. The more unique stuff like their JRPGs bombed hard.
 
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What were the great games they produced during the 360 era? I had a 360 and still felt the need to buy a PS3 because of how much more interesting the PS3 lineup was.

They bought 4 Gears of Wars, produced 4 Halo games and 5 Forza games in that gen. You can't get more uninspiring than that. The more unique stuff like their JRPGs bombed hard.

Lost Odyssey, Fable 2-3, Alan Wake, Perfect Dark Zero, Crackdown, Blue Dragon, Viva Pinata, Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts, etc. As well, Halo, Gears, and Forza may seem a bit tired now, but they weren't back then. There was a lot of hype around those releases. The point I was making is that back then X-Box was still taking creative risks, trying new things with their games while still maintaining the big 3. That was their focus. Now, not so much.
 
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Lost Odyssey, Fable 2-3, Alan Wake, Perfect Dark Zero, Crackdown, Blue Dragon, Viva Pinata, Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts, etc. As well, Halo, Gears, and Forza may seem a bit tired now, but they weren't back then. There was a lot of hype around those releases. The point I was making is that back then X-Box was still taking creative risks, trying new things with their games while still maintaining the big 3. That was their focus. Now, not so much.
Alan Wake was my favorite but it is still pretty far from being a great game. By Gear 2 I was already tired of the IP, it's just such an uninspiring world with laughable aesthetics, you don't get more dudebro than Gears.

If Mass Effect counts then I guess that would be their best game by far but it eventually came out on the PS3.
 
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Is the remaster worth a purchase? I've always been interested in the game, but never had the means to play it until now.
I don't know, I played it on the 360. It had a pretty good narrative but offensively repetitive gameplay. I have no idea if it aged well.
 
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10 million on consoles compared to 46 million psn subscribers.

Best deal in gaming that no-one wants and those that do have it don't download the games that are free.
The most popular titles on their windows store are bejeweled and casino type games (after Roblox).

Last time I looked at the most played gamepass games it seemed like most were cheap games kids would play endlessly. Meaning that their parents would be better off buying 2 or 3 games and a new one at the kid's birthday every year to build a catalog.

Also, a gamepass subscriber doesn't have a library, so he has no attachment to your console.
 

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What were the great games they produced during the 360 era? I had a 360 and still felt the need to buy a PS3 because of how much more interesting the PS3 lineup was.

They bought 4 Gears of Wars, produced 4 Halo games and 5 Forza games in that gen. You can't get more uninspiring than that. The more unique stuff like their JRPGs bombed hard.
Gears of War was new, Forza + horizon kind of new too, plus the arcade gave easy publishing to indies, some pretty good games came out of this. The third party titles mostly ran better on the 360 as well

Also, their online service was more feature rich.

Also early in the gen Sony was slow to release really good games, so it took 2 or 3 years for the ps3 to really stand out... I recall, I had the fat ps3.
 
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Also, a gamepass subscriber doesn't have a library, so he has no attachment to your console.

I hadn't thought of that, but it makes a lot of sense. People will stick with a console or PC due to having a library of games they've collected on the platform. Other factors come into it too - friends, brand loyalty, game preference, etc. but investment of hard-earned cash is a big one.
 

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Alan Wake was my favorite but it is still pretty far from being a great game. By Gear 2 I was already tired of the IP, it's just such an uninspiring world with laughable aesthetics, you don't get more dudebro than Gears.

If Mass Effect counts then I guess that would be their best game by far but it eventually came out on the PS3.

Yeah, I wasn't sure whether to include Mass Effect for exactly that reason. I suppose it being initially released as a 360 exclusive did draw a lot of customers and prestige to XBox, though.
 

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I hadn't thought of that, but it makes a lot of sense. People will stick with a console or PC due to having a library of games they've collected on the platform. Other factors come into it too - friends, brand loyalty, game preference, etc. but investment of hard-earned cash is a big one.
PS+ Essentials ties you to the console because you actually grow your own library of monthly games and works as an incentive for you to always be subscribed.

Games with Gold is laughable so there is no drawback to just sniping a month or two when there are enough games on the service that you are interested into(when 1$ trials were a thing this strategy was even more appealing). The longer you have had Gamepass the less appealing it becomes.

My catalog of PS+ games is far superior to Gamepass at this point because on top of extra I have all the accumulated monthly games and the PS collection games.

xCloud makes it even worse because you can have a PS5 then just use xCloud every once in a while if you get cut out of an exclusive you want to play. It doesn't work the other way around, if you are an Xbox player and you want to play FFXVI or Spider-man 2 you'll need a PlayStation.
 
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Yeah, I wasn't sure whether to include Mass Effect for exactly that reason. I suppose it being initially released as a 360 exclusive did draw a lot of customers and prestige to XBox, though.
It wasn’t just released as a 360 exclusive, it was initially published by Microsoft Game Studios prior to BioWare being sold to EA along with Pandemic when Elevation Partners decided they didn’t want to open their own games publisher.

Yes, Bono once owned two game development companies.
 

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My catalog of PS+ games is far superior to Gamepass at this point because on top of extra I have all the accumulated monthly games and the PS collection games.
Not only that, but if I ever was to resubscribe to it I would have access to the old ps+ games again (if I downloaded them while I had the service).
 

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Is the remaster worth a purchase? I've always been interested in the game, but never had the means to play it until now.
No. I bought it few months ago for like 15 pounds and regret it. Lol. Trash camera and controls. Repetitive gameplay. Stupid boss fight it can call it that. Story was ok, kinda interesting but i couldnt deal with camera and gameplay. Delete. Never finished it.

Maybe if u can get it on deep sale, so u can try it for yourself.
 
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Gamepass library s so overrated its not funny. If u played some games last gen or in 360 era, u played most of it good titles. From gears, halo, mass effect, dead space, forza, ea games, bethesda.....i played like majority of games there. Truth i dont play indies so cant comment on that. Ms first party this gen s joke just like last gen. Only redeming quality s some 3p games that appear on service. Theres reason it doesnt have 50M subs even with all promotions. Its given away for free.
 
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