GSD European sales October 2023 - PS5#1(+143%) NSW#2(-20%) XBS#3(-52%) / EA FC24 #1, AC Mirage#2, SM2#3

[KiryuRealty]

I've always got the sense the MS views the general public as gullible and dumb. This goes back decades, for me, in how they handled Windows and their other software applications. They'd rather force their products on people and exert control as opposed to offer a competitive and attractive product that people want to buy. They've succeeded in that area and now their software is the default setting for many people and businesses. It should never have been allowed to happen, but it was.

I think where they're running into issues now is that gamers, as a whole, are not gullible and dumb. Many of us are very knowledgeable, educated, and passionate about our hobby. It's why MS doesn't get that their most notorious, evangelistic influencers are not going to draw people to their brand. As well, their heavy-handed approach to reshaping the gaming industry to one where they're in control is not resonating with the majority (declining console sales, stagnating Game Pass sub rates, loss of market share even in countries they were once strong in, etc.) and the decline has only sped up with their acquisitions. XBox, as a brand, is not attractive to many people on a world-wide scale. That's the result of continuing on with their current leadership and strategy. I say let them have at it. I have no tolerance for that kind of arrogance and, petty as it may be, am enjoying seeing the results of it.

Don’t kid yourself, gamers are dumber than the general public.

The amount of morons who bought multiple 360s to replace RROD systems illustrates that beautifully.

 

[anonpuffs]

Don’t kid yourself, gamers are dumber than the general public.

The amount of morons who bought multiple 360s to replace RROD systems illustrates that beautifully.

*americans (and brits)

 

[Alabtrosmyster]

*americans (and brits)

Canadians and Aussies too.

 

[Plextorage]

So, Xbox is selling badly even with discounts in UK??

[IGN and Chris Dring from GBIZ] - Why does Xbox Series X and S continue to struggle in Europe? Sales - Microsoft

https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/europe-monthly-charts-october-2023-1-ps5-143-2-nsw-20-3-xbs-52.2147/post-210918 Yeah the Xbox brand is dead here.

www.resetera.com

 

[Yobo]

Starfield sucking was a massive blow to Xbox

All the hype, all the expectation. It really ended up a sink or swim moment for.Series X

 

[Plextorage]

All the hype, all the expectation. It really ended up a sink or swim moment for.Series X

Can't find a video where Ryan McCaffrey cried like a baby after Redfall review and said that Starfield needs to be a success for Xbox. It was hilarious

 

[JAHGamer]

Can't find a video where Ryan McCaffrey cried like a baby after Redfall review and said that Starfield needs to be a success for Xbox. It was hilarious

this one? these idiots are making the same mistake by hyping up Forza MS8 and Starfield, 2 more duds with huge issues that had potential. Instead of calling out the massive flaws they act like these games are great and it's why Xbox will continue to be mediocre

At 45:10 minute mark

 

[Plextorage]

this one? these idiots are making the same mistake by hyping up Forza MS8 and Starfield, 2 more duds with huge issues that had potential. Instead of calling out the massive flaws they act like these games are great and it's why Xbox will continue to be mediocre

At 46 minute mark

Yep, found it. Just started to watch it 30 min. ago. Need to find a part where Ryan almost cried. LOL

 

[JAHGamer]

Yep, found it. Just started to watch it 30 min. ago. Need to find a part where Ryan almost cried. LOL

45:10

 

[KiryuRealty]

Starfield sucking was a massive blow to Xbox

All the hype, all the expectation. It really ended up a sink or swim moment for.Series X

But, according to the likes of AdamsApple and other GAF shills, nobody ever said it would be the game of the generation or would put Xbox on top...

 

[Alabtrosmyster]

this one? these idiots are making the same mistake by hyping up Forza MS8 and Starfield, 2 more duds with huge issues that had potential. Instead of calling out the massive flaws they act like these games are great and it's why Xbox will continue to be mediocre

Hey, they had fun with it.

Fun is very subjective.

 

[JAHGamer]

Hey, they had fun with it.

Fun is very subjective.

Sure, nothing wrong with that. I had fun with Forspoken but I'm not gonna tell Square Enix that they did an amazing job with it and that there is nothing wrong with the game and anyone that criticizes it is a hater fanboy and its just #SquareEnixTax. I'm not saying they're bad games, just that they failed to reach their potential and instead of discussing those, they just talk about how amazing the games are and act like they're perfect. Which is why the cycle will continue.

 

[Plextorage]

45:10

Yep. That part from 45:00 and onwards. It is hilarious

 

[Alabtrosmyster]

Sure, nothing wrong with that. I had fun with Forspoken but I'm not gonna tell Square Enix that they did an amazing job with it and that there is nothing wrong with the game and anyone that criticizes it is a hater fanboy and its just #SquareEnixTax. I'm not saying they're bad games, just that they failed to reach their potential and instead of discussing those, they just talk about how amazing the games are and act like they're perfect. Which is why the cycle will continue.

I know

 

[laynelane]

Don’t kid yourself, gamers are dumber than the general public.

The amount of morons who bought multiple 360s to replace RROD systems illustrates that beautifully.

That's a good point, but considering the sales gap that went on between the following generation consoles - I have little doubt that helped shape some choices. Anecdotal, of course, but I saw many people talking about that as a reason for jumping to PS4 from the 360. Other reasons are more prevalent - the XBone reveal, Kinect, Sony first-party and hardware, price, etc.) - but it's still there as a reason. For me, that whole debacle was just another example of MS screwing over their own customers. I remember even once they finally admitted it was their fault, people reported sending in RROD systems and getting RROD systems back. I suspect a lot of eyes were opened by stuff like that and we're still seeing the effects of that to this day. It take a lot to build customer good-will and little to destroy if for most.

 

[Alabtrosmyster]

That's a good point, but considering the sales gap that went on between the following generation consoles - I have little doubt that helped shape some choices. Anecdotal, of course, but I saw many people talking about that as a reason for jumping to PS4 from the 360. Other reasons are more prevalent - the XBone reveal, Kinect, Sony first-party and hardware, price, etc.) - but it's still there as a reason. For me, that whole debacle was just another example of MS screwing over their own customers. I remember even once they finally admitted it was their fault, people reported sending in RROD systems and getting RROD systems back. I suspect a lot of eyes were opened by stuff like that and we're still seeing the effects of that to this day. It take a lot to build customer good-will and little to destroy if for most.

Sure, but we had years of "MS has great service, they take care of their customers", Sony is not like that.

 

[laynelane]

Sure, but we had years of "MS has great service, they take care of their customers", Sony is not like that.

Are you referring to the consumer-friendly astroturfing that went on about Phil/XBox?

 

[Alabtrosmyster]

Are you referring to the consumer-friendly astroturfing that went on about Phil/XBox?

that too, but they spun the constant replacement as a benefit... kind of brusing off the whole problem to begin with.

 

[laynelane]

that too, but they spun the constant replacement as a benefit... kind of brusing off the whole problem to begin with.

Interesting. Who spun it that way? I have seen people saying the received multiple replacement units, but very few were pleased by the experience.

 

[KiryuRealty]

Interesting. Who spun it that way? I have seen people saying the received multiple replacement units, but very few were pleased by the experience.

I was talking about the cretins who happily paid full price to replace their systems before MS took responsibility and started replacing them under warranty.