[Hiroki Totoki] PS5 Pro's pre-orders are "slightly stronger" than PS4 Pro during the same period

[ethomaz]

Considering Xbox is all but out of the picture you’d hope more PlayStation are being sold as the only serious console option

Do you really believe with Xbox in or out it should do any difference?

When I said few years ago in this forum that console wars only existed in Xbox fans heads I was not joking.
Xbox never made any type of competition to PlayStation after Xbox 360.

That war existed in the far far way past... not in the last last two generations.

 

[quest4441]

Sorry quest... I had to quote you



Another one...

....... Bruh its one week sales , this is the same short term shit that you people look at and think the "geniuses" at Sony are doing good. If you think this 3 sec pump and dump scenario looks good than good for you

 

[Shmunter]

Do you really believe with Xbox in or out it should do any difference?

When I said few years ago in this forum that console wars only existed in Xbox fans heads I was not joking.
Xbox never made any type of competition to PlayStation after Xbox 360.

That war existed in the far far way past... not in the last last two generations.

Of course it makes a difference. Still head to head rivals even if one is much stronger, and USA likely carried a much healthier Xbox than globally

 

[Muddasar]

....... Bruh its one week sales , this is the same short term shit that you people look at and think the "geniuses" at Sony are doing good. If you think this 3 sec pump and dump scenario looks good than good for you

Only one week sales?

If the sales were poor for this one week we all know the shit you doomers would be throwing at Sony on this forum.

Who are you fooling.

 

[SuperPotato]

....... Bruh its one week sales , this is the same short term shit that you people look at and think the "geniuses" at Sony are doing good. If you think this 3 sec pump and dump scenario looks good than good for you

If the sales were bad would you still say "it's only one week" ?

 

[Muddasar]

If the sales were bad would you still say "it's only one week" ?

No. They would be shitting all over Sony on this forum.

So far we have two excuses from them.

“It is only one week”

“Let’s see if it can keep up with the PS4 Pro long term”

 

[quest4441]

If the sales were bad would you still say "it's only one week" ?

Bruh I never said the Ps5 pro is a bad piece of tech lol, I even bought it. Ps5 pro selling 80k odd in a week in Japan doesnt change the fact the brand is in the dumpsters and the software doesnt sell at all in the region. I cant believe you guys seriously think these bunch of losers heading the Playstation division will be successful in the long term.

The base ps 5 hardly breaches 15k weekly this is not the win you think it is

 

[voke]

bunch of losers heading the Playstation division will be successful in the long term.

pure cope. cry harder.

the point is for all the dooming this place contributes to, they still do very well. doomers are already in full "long term" mode becuase the shit they spew ages like milk in the short term.

 

[akira__]

pure cope. cry harder.

the point is for all the dooming this place contributes to, they still do very well. doomers are already in full "long term" mode becuase the shit they spew ages like milk in the short term.

The console ended with ps as winner, and Xbox becoming major publisher for ps.
Cod sold record amount on ps, according to Nadella. That is 30% of each game sold, and the network effects.

For supposedly ps fans, there many doomers really concerned about that no red tape line from phil.

Wonder why

 

[mibu no ookami]

It's time to stop going back and forth with these guys. I'll chime in to dunk on them every once and while like today, but I'm going to try harder not to engage with them.

They're entirely disingenuous.

They know or should know that Sony 1st party as it relates to AAA single-player games was almost nonexistent on PS1 and PS2, with the exception of one title in God of War. PS1 and PS2 were built almost entirely upon the strength of 3rd party games.

That fell apart under the PS3 and the PS3 generation but mostly the PS4 generation is what they think of when they are judging Sony today.

What they ignore is that these games take longer to develop and that they're more expensive to develop and that if they underperform, there is no cash flow for those studios for YEARS. Much of the industry is moving to GaaS and putting their head in the sand is not a solution.

What they also ignore is that successful companies grow by definition. Apple's primary product isn't a desktop computer today. In fact it's one of their least important products.

For Sony to stay relevant in a dynamic industry like this, they have to grow. That doesn't mean you have to like all their games or play all their games, spoiler, you weren't before either.

 

[Kokoloko]

pure cope. cry harder.

the point is for all the dooming this place contributes to, they still do very well. doomers are already in full "long term" mode becuase the shit they spew ages like milk in the short term.

Theres a good few people who act as neutrals but constantly shit/Doom on PS.
Its not even the valid points alot of the time and just a show of constanthate

 

[Hezekiah]

Some people are really upset by Pro sales, like mini David Jaffe's praying for it to flop

 

[voke]

PS1 and PS2 were built almost entirely upon the strength of 3rd party games.

Yup, I always refer to the PS2 gen when someone cries about First Party. PS isn't Nintendo, where they clearly want you to focus on their own content. Sony has always moved in a way to ensure their customers get the best of third parties too. The only generation that lacked on that front was PS3. Which is why Sony started getting their act together first party wise that gen, they realized they can't just rely on 3rd parties.

 

[Kokoloko]

Some people are really upset by Pro sales, like mini David Jaffe's praying for it to flop

I had a friend waiting to tell me about the flop lol.

As long as it sells around PS4 Pro numbers it will be good. Considering the price of PS5 Pro I expect it to be a bit under when all things finish this gen, so anything around or above PS4 Pro numbers is a success

 

[arvfab]

They know or should know that Sony 1st party as it relates to AAA single-player games was almost nonexistent on PS1 and PS2, with the exception of one title in God of War. PS1 and PS2 were built almost entirely upon the strength of 3rd party games.

There you go, showing again how clueless you are. Yes, PlayStation being a newcomer in the console business had to rely a lot on 3rd party, yet saying first-party was non-existent when PS1 had games like:

- Twisted Metal
- Gran Turismo
- Warhawk
- MediEvil
- Everybody's Golf
- Cool Boarders
- ParappaTheRapper
- Arc The Lad
- Legend of Dragoon
- Wild Arms
- Ape Escape

And more. Plus IPs they later acquired like Wipeout.

The PS2 had sequels to some of those games and added additional 1st-party titles like:

- God of War
- Dark Cloud (+ "sequels")
- Mark of Kri
- Okage: Shadow King
- Ico
- Shadow of the Colossus
- Jak and Daxter
- Ratchet and Clank
- Sly
- They even had their own football game, This is Football
- Siren
- The Getaway
- Games like SingStar, EyeToy games, Buzz

So you are either too young or too clueless or too full of bullshit. Maybe a mix of all three.

That fell apart under the PS3 and the PS3 generation but mostly the PS4 generation is what they think of when they are judging Sony today.

The PS3 gen was the one where they noticed how important the 1st-party exclusives were and how they couldn't rely on 3rd party.

What they also ignore is that successful companies grow by definition. Apple's primary product isn't a desktop computer today. In fact it's one of their least important products.

And with corporate shill responses like that, you prove how you care more for their finances than for the reason gaming forums like this exist: the games. You are basically saying that it's ok if PlayStation as a console becomes the least important product, as long as the likes of Hulst can fill their pockets.

 

[Kokoloko]

There you go, showing again how clueless you are. Yes, PlayStation being a newcomer in the console business had to rely a lot on 3rd party, yet saying first-party was non-existent when PS1 had games like:

- Twisted Metal
- Gran Turismo
- Warhawk
- MediEvil
- Everybody's Golf
- Cool Boarders
- ParappaTheRapper
- Arc The Lad
- Legend of Dragoon
- Wild Arms
- Ape Escape

And more. Plus IPs they later acquired like Wipeout.

The PS2 had sequels to some of those games and added additional 1st-party titles like:

- God of War
- Dark Cloud (+ "sequels")
- Mark of Kri
- Okage: Shadow King
- Ico
- Shadow of the Colossus
- Jak and Daxter
- Ratchet and Clank
- Sly
- They even had their own football game, This is Football
- Siren
- The Getaway
- Games like SingStar, EyeToy games, Buzz

So you are either too young or too clueless or too full of bullshit. Maybe a mix of all three.


The PS3 gen was the one where they noticed how important the 1st-party exclusives were and how they couldn't rely on 3rd party.


And with corporate shill responses like that, you prove how you care more for their finances than for the reason gaming forums like this exist: the games. You are basically saying that it's ok if PlayStation as a console becomes the least important product, as long as the likes of Hulst can fill their pockets.

I use to love Buzz. Loads of good MP fun, drunk times lol

 

[arvfab]

I use to love Buzz. Loads of good MP fun, drunk times lol

We all did. Imagine how easy it would be today to use the smartphones instead of proprietary buzzers, like they did with the PlayLink games (even a few quiz ones).

 

[Kokoloko]

We all did. Imagine how easy it would be today to use the smartphones instead of proprietary buzzers, like they did with the PlayLink games (even a few quiz ones).

Makes sense. Theres so much they could be doing. Someone send them an idea board lol

 

[Gediminas]

There you go, showing again how clueless you are. Yes, PlayStation being a newcomer in the console business had to rely a lot on 3rd party, yet saying first-party was non-existent when PS1 had games like:

- Twisted Metal
- Gran Turismo
- Warhawk
- MediEvil
- Everybody's Golf
- Cool Boarders
- ParappaTheRapper
- Arc The Lad
- Legend of Dragoon
- Wild Arms
- Ape Escape

And more. Plus IPs they later acquired like Wipeout.

The PS2 had sequels to some of those games and added additional 1st-party titles like:

- God of War
- Dark Cloud (+ "sequels")
- Mark of Kri
- Okage: Shadow King
- Ico
- Shadow of the Colossus
- Jak and Daxter
- Ratchet and Clank
- Sly
- They even had their own football game, This is Football
- Siren
- The Getaway
- Games like SingStar, EyeToy games, Buzz

So you are either too young or too clueless or too full of bullshit. Maybe a mix of all three.


The PS3 gen was the one where they noticed how important the 1st-party exclusives were and how they couldn't rely on 3rd party.


And with corporate shill responses like that, you prove how you care more for their finances than for the reason gaming forums like this exist: the games. You are basically saying that it's ok if PlayStation as a console becomes the least important product, as long as the likes of Hulst can fill their pockets.

aren't you tired to rip apart dumb corporate bootlickers on daily basis?

 

[mibu no ookami]

There you go, showing again how clueless you are. Yes, PlayStation being a newcomer in the console business had to rely a lot on 3rd party, yet saying first-party was non-existent when PS1 had games like:

- Twisted Metal
- Gran Turismo
- Warhawk
- MediEvil
- Everybody's Golf
- Cool Boarders
- ParappaTheRapper
- Arc The Lad
- Legend of Dragoon
- Wild Arms
- Ape Escape

And more. Plus IPs they later acquired like Wipeout.

The PS2 had sequels to some of those games and added additional 1st-party titles like:

- God of War
- Dark Cloud (+ "sequels")
- Mark of Kri
- Okage: Shadow King
- Ico
- Shadow of the Colossus
- Jak and Daxter
- Ratchet and Clank
- Sly
- They even had their own football game, This is Football
- Siren
- The Getaway
- Games like SingStar, EyeToy games, Buzz

So you are either too young or too clueless or too full of bullshit. Maybe a mix of all three.


The PS3 gen was the one where they noticed how important the 1st-party exclusives were and how they couldn't rely on 3rd party.


And with corporate shill responses like that, you prove how you care more for their finances than for the reason gaming forums like this exist: the games. You are basically saying that it's ok if PlayStation as a console becomes the least important product, as long as the likes of Hulst can fill their pockets.

- Twisted Metal
- Gran Turismo
- Warhawk - did not sell well
- MediEvil - did not sell well
- Everybody's Golf - not developed by sony
- Cool Boarders - not developed by sony
- ParappaTheRapper - not developed by sony
- Arc The Lad - not developed by sony
- Legend of Dragoon - only sold 1 million units and did not make its budget back
- Wild Arms - not developed by sony
- Ape Escape - not a big seller

And more. Plus IPs they later acquired like Wipeout. - not a big seller

The PS2 had sequels to some of those games and added additional 1st-party titles like:

- God of War
- Dark Cloud (+ "sequels") - not developed by sony
- Mark of Kri - was a massive failure
- Okage: Shadow King - not developed by sony
- Ico - by a failed team
- Shadow of the Colossus - see above
- Jak and Daxter - naughty dog wasn't owned by sony at the time
- Ratchet and Clank - see jak and daxter
- Sly - didn't sell well
- They even had their own football game, This is Football - didn't sell well
- Siren - didn't sell well, failed team
- The Getaway - didn't sell well, failed team
- Games like SingStar, EyeToy games, Buzz - diminishing sales over time