How do you think game development can be sped up?

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Publishers like Sony can afford to expand there studios to multi team studios and increase the size of each studios.

Insomniacs output has been great.
Do the same with the others now.

They have plenty of money and there not going out there buying publishers and ips like MS so its the least they could do
 

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We're still blaming him for Bungie"s jealously of Factions being better than Marathon so they got it delayed? 😏

Sony should never have wasted their money on Bungie, they should have gotten Capcom or Bandai Namco instead.
 

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Sony should never have wasted their money on Bungie, they should have gotten Capcom or Bandai Namco instead.
No I understand why they went for Bungie and I won't trash Bungie as I thoroughly enjoyed my time with both Destiny and Destiny 2. They are talented and have the potential to make another huge GaaS. Hopefully going forward with the backing of Sony they will ease back on their predatory business model though.

I still think it was shitty of Sony to give Bungie to authority to go and evaluate a studio like Naughty Dog's multiplayer game. Such disrespect, after they created such amazing multiplayers like Uncharted 2... Uncharted 3 (the original Fortnite), Factions and even the undercooked though still enjoyable Uncharted 4 multiplayer.

Naughty Dog knows how to make a great Multiplayer and should have never had to answer to people like Bungie.
 

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With games taking now we'll over three years to develop we are now finding ourselves well into console generations (some games are going to release midway in between the gen) before we get games that harness the systems capabilities. What do you think can be done to speed up development. Some things that are being used for good or for worse.

Al for development of different aspects of gaming.

Known engines, framework and tools (if created well allow devs to prototype faster and write less code)

Reusing assets from past games in sequels

What else can be done? Obviously the open world chase has made games so much more complex. Want to hear your thoughts because waiting for certain first party games is indeed frustrating and hearing about mid gen refreshes when we know devs haven't even been familiar with current consoles to me is superflous.
Coming from working with UE5 everyday, I can say that there are a few things to speed up production and most studios are doing it now. In sequels, you can reuse assets. If it's an original, you have to bite the bullet because you are starting from scratch.

As far as graphics engines go, getting one that scales broadly to current as well as future hardware will ensure that you don't have to refactor the entire engine.

Using already created pipelines will also save a lot on time. Being able to refine parts of the pipeline but keeping the overall design unchanged will also remove extra time.
 
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We're still blaming him for Bungie"s jealously of Factions being better than Marathon so they got it delayed? 😏
Bungie, SIE Publishing, PS Studios management and the PS Studios teams (so not only Bungie) are part of a Live services center of excellence team, a team that reviews the different GaaS specific parts of all the SIE live service games.

So Bungie can't delay a PS Studios game, if a PS Studios game is delayed or not is decided by the PS studio in charge of the game -in this case ND- and the PS Studios editorial team (a different one from the live service center of excellent, this one is in charge instead of greenlighting game pitches and game development milestones of all PS Studios games).

I still think it was shitty of Sony to give Bungie to authority to go and evaluate a studio like Naughty Dog's multiplayer game.
This never happened.

Bungie only joined SIE publishing and PS Studios in a team (so it isn't Bungie only) where the SIE experts of these GaaS specific areas -servers, metrics, game design, economy designers, monetization, production etc.- who review and guide only the GaaS parts of all SIE GaaS games.

This team doesn't review or delays the games themselves, for PS Studios this is made by a separate team where Bungie isn't present.
 
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Those three games are the work of two dev teams and a separate art department, and as you should know by now that games take longer to make now due to requiring much more detailed assets.
Nuh, assets doesn't add development time. Developers used to make cgi cutscenes back then which uses high detailed assets. So, no.
It's bloated open world with boring repetitive sidequests and Hollywood actors that increases development time and cost.
 
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Bungie, SIE Publishing, PS Studios management and the PS Studios teams (so not only Bungie) are part of a Live services center of excellence team, a team that reviews the different GaaS specific parts of all the SIE live service games.

So Bungie can't delay a PS Studios game, if a PS Studios game is delayed or not is decided by the PS studio in charge of the game -in this case ND- and the PS Studios editorial team (a different one from the live service center of excellent, this one is in charge instead of greenlighting game pitches and game development milestones of all PS Studios games).


This never happened.

Bungie only joined SIE publishing and PS Studios in a team (so it isn't Bungie only) where the SIE experts of these GaaS specific areas -servers, metrics, game design, economy designers, monetization, production etc.- who review and guide only the GaaS parts of all SIE GaaS games.

This team doesn't review or delays the games themselves, for PS Studios this is made by a separate team where Bungie isn't present.

Imagine reading my post and actually thinking I was being serious of Bungie being jealous of factions so they delayed it 🤦🏽‍♂️💀.

And I will stick to the what was reported by Jason that Bungie did infact evaluate the game as well.
 
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Good points all. I really hope we reach a point where development becomes faster and easier.
 

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Not a popular take but I reckon if the industry hired based on talent and not social politics they’d get better results.

We are not getting anywhere near the level of quality we should and I blame the archetype of person being hired.
 
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Whats the story behind this


This is a dust bath, creatures like chinchillas and squirrels use it to clean and maintain their fur, which helps keep parasites of them

Chickens do it too sometimes.

That's not cocaine bear part 2 FFS

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This is a dust bath, creatures like chinchillas and squirrels use it to clean and maintain their fur, which helps keep parasites of them

Chickens do it too sometimes.

That's not cocaine bear part 2 FFS

Winter GIF by Storyful
Smh here you come having to ruin the joke. Of course because your a fish you think you have to defend and explain Everything thts "non human" Bro go jerk your gills off or something "the boys" style.
 
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