Industry and Video game layoff thread |OT| Any future layoff info please place in here.

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Which thread is that from?
 

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That seems so messy, do you know why Ubisoft ended up with this responsibility? that seems like the kind of mess a lawyer would make tons and tons of money with!
I have no idea.

MS had to give the rights of ABK cloud gaming to some other company, I assume they found was a great potential partner for this if not the best candidate: Ubisoft has a very good relationship with all platform holders (also including Nintendo, Google, Apple, Nvidia or Amazon) in all gaming areas plus also already has a strong experience with game subs and cloud gaming.

Specially because as third party publisher MS now has under them EA and Take 2 as main competitors, who also have a way better relationship with Sony than with MS, so they don't want to benefit potential direct rivals. Ubisoft is a top publisher too, but it's way under EA and Take 2 so doesn't offer any threat, and it's neutral ground. Specially because MS knows for real that Ubi doesn't want to sell and wants to continue being neutral supporting all platforms.

Also, this move seems was agreed with Sony -or Sony knew about it two years ago, way before MS announced it after getting the first no from CMA. Notice in these leaked mails between Jim Ryan and Chris Deeing (the first SIE Europe President so former boss of Jimbo, also executive at Sony in multiple non-gaming areas and later board director of Codemasters after having ), Chris mentions "Yves (Guillemot) must be smiling like the Chesire Cat" (back then when the mails were leaked we didn't know why): https://www.windowscentral.com/gami...s-true-feelings-about-xboxs-activision-merger
 
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What fake news will the official xbox discord come up this weekend to deflect and smear playstation with?
 

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I can understand why Xbots hates Jason to heart :D



I am sympathetic to those people. They were in a bad situation with ABK leadership being terrible and were hoping for improvement with a new company and leadership. I get that.

However, as someone who has watched the antics of Phil for a while now and MS for even longer, I didn't believe the promises of a unionized and valued workforce for even one second. This is the company that had already laid off Zenimax employees, prefers contract workers for game development over permanent employees, and has been responsible for some of the most anti-consumer and anti-competitive moves in corporate history. This corporation does not value people, its customers or its employees, just like most others. It came across as unbelievably naive to see so many believing otherwise pre-acquisition.
 
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I am sympathetic to those people. They were in a bad situation with ABK leadership being terrible and were hoping for improvement with a new company and leadership. I get that.

However, as someone who has watched the antics of Phil for a while now and MS for even longer, I didn't believe the promises of a unionized and valued workforce for even one second. This is the company that had already laid off Zenimax employees, prefers contract workers for game development over permanent employees, and has been responsible for some of the most anti-consumer and anti-competitive moves in corporate history. This corporation does not value people, its customers or its employees, just like most others. It came across as unbelievably naive to see so many believing otherwise per-acquisition.
When people realize online play is only paid on consoles due Microsoft they will realize what is Microsoft to console market.
 

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When people realize online play is only paid on consoles due Microsoft they will realize what is Microsoft to console market.

I've actually seen people unironically defend that. It was paid so it was "better" and it's thanks to MS that we have better online gaming to this day.
 
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Watched Sacred Symbols today, it was very disappointing to me... The takes were mostly so easy on Microsoft and the acquisition.

Colin blames it mostly on the economy and the lockdown boom and overinvestment in gaming.

Not to put them in competition but Reforge gaming went much deeper and discussed the various aspects and levels.

He pointed out the acquisition didn't save anyone or anything, it probably made things worse. Arguments that were used to justify the acquisition, like more games is already proven false with less developers and a game already cancelled.

The Microsoft policy of using more contractors than full time employees and how that has resulted in lower quality games.
 

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Watched Sacred Symbols today, it was very disappointing to me... The takes were mostly so easy on Microsoft and the acquisition.

Colin blames it mostly on the economy and the lockdown boom and overinvestment in gaming.

Not to put them in competition but Reforge gaming went much deeper and discussed the various aspects and levels.

He pointed out the acquisition didn't save anyone or anything, it probably made things worse. Arguments that were used to justify the acquisition, like more games is already proven false with less developers and a game already cancelled.

The Microsoft policy of using more contractors than full time employees and how that has resulted in lower quality games.
I found out pretty quickly that podcast wasn't for me. A lot of really silly takes on there imo.
 
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Oh my god they're really going to actually do it, they're going to ruin call of duty

End of an era folks, pour one out.
COD is one of those things where people will keep buying it in droves no matter how bad it gets unfortunately.
 

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I found out pretty quickly that podcast wasn't for me. A lot of really silly takes on there imo.

Any examples? I'm curious what others think.

I was banned from their discord after Xbox fans came into their playstation area and trolled everyone.... I had the audacity to call them out and argue with them and caught a ban.

It's weird that Colin is surrounded by mostly Xbox fans.
 

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Partner of Hardware at Xbox. Developer of the Series X and S, and Elite Controlled 1 & 2 has left Xbox. On his own terms.

Hardware is probably finished for Xbox.

Probably what the tip off I got was about something big next week.... I thought it was ports to other platforms.

We will see.
 

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Any examples? I'm curious what others think.

I was banned from their discord after Xbox fans came into their playstation area and trolled everyone.... I had the audacity to call them out and argue with them and caught a ban.

It's weird that Colin is surrounded by mostly Xbox fans.
I'll have to look them up, but he has some weird takes on what he thinks Sony should or shouldn't do. He does a lot of dooming as well. He also doesn't do a very good job of pushing back when he's in a show with Xbox diehards spouting nonsense.
 
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I'll have to look them up, but he has some weird takes on what he thinks Sony should or shouldn't do. He does a lot of dooming as well. He also doesn't do a very good job of pushing back when he's in a show with Xbox diehards spouting nonsense.
Oh i noticed that, the ironlords... Painful bunch.