Joseph Staten, head of creative on Halo Infinite and cinematic director on the first three Halo games, is leaving Microsoft

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You must be incredibly easy to beat at chess, with your absolute absence of foresight.
I obviosly was joking and being sarcastic, making a bit of fun of those who think MS has or will have a monopoly then they will barely have slightly above 10% market share in gaming and in consoles their direct competitor outperforms by 2:1 or more in most key metrics, have a console wiere around 90% of their players don't buy the yearly CoD games and on top of that we're constantly reading news of MS getting dominated, or losing key developers or hints that lead us things some of their projects (including teams they acquired) may have big management issues or that at least let's say don't have great management.

And at the same time their direct competition makes smaller investments in safer bets on people with a lot of pedigree to grow in different directions, both in the ones they dominate and others where the market is going and where people they are hiring or acquiring excel. Leading to think they will grow faster than they are growing their userbase, revenue and profit and since they are direct competitors of MS, will eat them marketshare.

A lot of factual data that proves that MS are far from having a monopoly or a potential monopoly, or even being market leaders. And other news and data leads to think that what they have instead is a shitfest or a potential shitfest.

Every time i see this thread, I read Joseph Stalin ffs
In my case happens the same with Jason Statham xDD
 
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I obviosly was joking and being sarcastic, making a bit of fun of those who think MS has or will have a monopoly then they will barely have slightly above 10% market share in gaming and in consoles their direct competitor outperforms by 2:1 or more in most key metrics, have a console wiere around 90% of their players don't buy the yearly CoD games and on top of that we're constantly reading news of MS getting dominated, or losing key developers or hints that lead us things some of their projects (including teams they acquired) may have big management issues or that at least let's say don't have great management.

And at the same time their direct competition makes smaller investments in safer bets on people with a lot of pedigree to grow in different directions, both in the ones they dominate and others where the market is going and where people they are hiring or acquiring excel. Leading to think they will grow faster than they are growing their userbase, revenue and profit and since they are direct competitors of MS, will eat them marketshare.

A lot of factual data that proves that MS are far from having a monopoly or a potential monopoly, or even being market leaders. And other news and data leads to think that what they have instead is a shitfest or a potential shitfest.


In my case happens the same with Jason Statham xDD

"Having a monopoly" doesn't literally mean having 100% market share, it means having market power and using that market power in anticompetitive ways which Microsoft is well known to engage in. You can have 10% market share and still fall afoul of antitrust laws if you're using what you have to foreclose on competitors in a way that they can't respond to.
 

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Where it’s at.
"Having a monopoly" doesn't literally mean having 100% market share, it means having market power and using that market power in anticompetitive ways which Microsoft is well known to engage in. You can have 10% market share and still fall afoul of antitrust laws if you're using what you have to foreclose on competitors in a way that they can't respond to.
Keep in mind you’re explaining this to a UBISoft alum. You may be using too many big words for it to be absorbed, judging by their product.
 
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"Having a monopoly" doesn't literally mean having 100% market share, it means having market power and using that market power in anticompetitive ways which Microsoft is well known to engage in. You can have 10% market share and still fall afoul of antitrust laws if you're using what you have to foreclose on competitors in a way that they can't respond to.
Having a monopoly means having 100% or almost, to be dominating a market and being in a power position to block others from competing. This is not the case at all here, MS only has around 8% of market share, maybe around up to 12% after this acquisition if they don't make any ABK product Xbox console exclusive (would be less if make CoD Xbox console exclusive) and can't do a shit against others with way more market share than them because the other competitors already have their own platform running and don't need MS to approve them anything, and ABK only represent a tiny portion of their competitor's market so don't heavily affect them to compete.
 
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Having a monopoly means having 100% or almost, to be dominating a market and being in a power position to block others from competing. This is not the case at all here, MS only has around 8% of market share, maybe around up to 12% after this acquisition if they don't make any ABK product Xbox console exclusive (would be less if make CoD Xbox console exclusive) and can't do a shit against others with way more market share than them because the other competitors already have their own platform running and don't need MS to approve them anything, and ABK only represent a tiny portion of their competitor's market so don't heavily affect them to compete.
Alot of arguments against the acquisition isn't really about monopoly, its just a straw man just ignoring the actual arguments.
 
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Alot of arguments against the acquisition isn't really about monopoly, its just a straw man just ignoring the actual arguments.

Yep, that's why I've avoided using that word entirely. It muddies the waters every time it comes up and is also consistently employed as a way to dismiss all concerns over the anti-competitiveness of this deal and how it's harmful to consumer choice.
 

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Alot of arguments against the acquisition isn't really about monopoly, its just a straw man just ignoring the actual arguments.
Yes, and some people are against the acquisition only because MS is the one making it. Some Sony fans wouldn't attack it if Sony was the one buying, and some Nintendo fans wouldn't attack if Nintendo was the one buying.

When in fact it would be more 'harmful' for competition if someone like Tentent, Sony or Nintendo would buy it. This acquisition will help MS to get closer to Nintendo and Sony without, but still behind them without changing the market meaningfully. So if something, it will make MS more competitive and may force Sony and Nintendo to improve to become more competitive.
 

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Yes, and some people are against the acquisition only because MS is the one making it. Some Sony fans wouldn't attack it if Sony was the one buying, and some Nintendo fans wouldn't attack if Nintendo was the one buying.

When in fact it would be more 'harmful' for competition if someone like Tentent, Sony or Nintendo would buy it. This acquisition will help MS to get closer to Nintendo and Sony without, but still behind them without changing the market meaningfully. So if something, it will make MS more competitive and may force Sony and Nintendo to improve to become more competitive.
Doubt it. It will most likely make the problems withing XGS more evident and will be a bigger loss in the long run and CoD will fade into obscurity.
MS can't manage 20 studios, why would they be able to manage 40?
 

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Doubt it. It will most likely make the problems withing XGS more evident and will be a bigger loss in the long run and CoD will fade into obscurity.
MS can't manage 20 studios, why would they be able to manage 40?
I have a similar theory: I think MGS, Zenimax and BK team management is a mess at least in some cases and areas for each case, and lost a good chunk of key talent that made at least some of they key IPs shine.

So they have the huge challenge of fixing the team management and a maybe easier one of hiring talent to replace the lost one. On top of that, they will have another issues related to the way bigger scale and acquisition: from the cost of mantain all this, to optimize the reduncancies of tasks/jobs now being done many times repeated in different places when they could be merged in a single smaller team getting the best individuals from each team (stuff like marketing, PR, QA, localization, tools, engines...), to coordinate the roadmap of many teams, to standarize and create a coordinated workflow and best practices, to establish proper and standard communication channels between the different teams, to do all this minimizing massive firings and without being too intrusive in the culture of each team...

Each one of these things is a very complex topic that needs a ton of work and is very difficult to implement it properly. I know Sony does this very well, and Ubisoft needed many years to achieve it but now is doing it pretty well since several years ago. But I have big doubts that MS could achieve it and I think will have big issues with these topics and that if they solve them, will take several years to properly integrate the huge amount of teams and companies they acquired in recent years.

In fact, I think that after acquiring ABK they should pause acquisitions and take at least a couple years to adress a game division wise reorganization and restructuring to put everything in order integrating everyone and set a standard company wide organization workflow and production, coordination and communication method without redundant teams or people.

Things like instead of having let's say 40 PR teams split into let's say 8 companies each one working in a different way and with a different strategy merge them into a single global team with a single strategy created with the best of each team plus different local subsidiaries -let's say 10 or 20- that coordinate and handle the PR of all the projects of the company. With maybe a third or a quarter of the people they may have now they'd do a way more efficient, productive and profitable work. It did wonders for Sony. And that could be applied to a ton of areas like marketing.

If not handled properly, which I assume is going to be the case, would result into a giant mess. Specially when contrasted with their direct competition who are doing it properly. Competition that also is investing more in talent who knows how to create and develop top new IP while MS are buying brands without many of the talent that made them great. Something that also think the MS acquisitions will patch temporally but will continue being an issue in the long term.
 
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