Dude, it is Microsoft. If they don't just shutter the Xbox division, the successor to Phil will have the exact same attitude, because that is, always was, and ever will be Microsoft's corporate culture.
Microsoft Wants Game Pass On PlayStation, Nintendo, And "Every Screen" Possible
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I think that in their next gen, with Switch 2, Nintendo may reach the level of PS3 and 360: discover the achievements, proper online to have decent online multiplayer, voice chat and game subs. Who knows, maybe even cloud gaming or VR!
If horsepower is good enough to feature PS4-level games they may get 3rd party ports of AAA PS4 gen games, and companies like Ubi or EA would ask them to put there their subs, and MS could try it too.
I think it's pretty difficult, almost impossible -specifically in the case of MS before they leave Xbox as platform holder-. But still possible. Maybe not for Switch 2, but maybe for Switch 3.
I think in the late 2020s we'll be in a place where high end smartphones/tablets, consoles, PCs may have relatively similar hardware, game engines and stores, specially if regulators force Apple and Google (and who knows if PS and Nintendo) to allow other stores. This will ease multiplatform development, seeing more games everywhere. Something strengthened by PC handhelds gettting way more relevant and cloud gaming also being way more relevant as 5G and fiber internet coverage and cloud gaming tech keeps improving.
In that context, I think we'll see multiplatform stores from Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft and so on: you'll be able to buy a game and play it on console, PC, mobile, smart tv or whatever. In some places natively and in other ones via cloud gaming.
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Kill Xbox hardware and Sony will entertain it - can almost guarantee it. Entertaining the idea = / = reaching a deal/acceptance.
Day 1 is still a cancer but if some devs want to go there in a post-Xbox hardware world that is their prerogative. Majority of devs will not go here except your indie dev who needs to hedge a dud before launch or a troubled release by a big publisher. In a post Xbox hardware world, a dev releasing Day 1 with Gamepass within Sony's ecosystem (PlayStation) means losing out of the biggest addressable market for premium games for full-priced dollar sales. The Gamepass pitch to devs works fine when you release for full price on PlayStation and get Microsoft's money in Xbox's diminished and moribund platform. That game dies when Xbox hardware dies.
Day 1 is still a cancer but if some devs want to go there in a post-Xbox hardware world that is their prerogative. Majority of devs will not go here except your indie dev who needs to hedge a dud before launch or a troubled release by a big publisher. In a post Xbox hardware world, a dev releasing Day 1 with Gamepass within Sony's ecosystem (PlayStation) means losing out of the biggest addressable market for premium games for full-priced dollar sales. The Gamepass pitch to devs works fine when you release for full price on PlayStation and get Microsoft's money in Xbox's diminished and moribund platform. That game dies when Xbox hardware dies.
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Just reviewed the info. It’s not gamepass on ps vs nothing. It’s essentially 1st party titles published on what was traditionally considered competitors systems.
Can’t help but feel a sense of remorse at this point. Xbox was amazing during the 360 era, now it’s all crumbled and winding up. How will Sony get pushed without threat of an Xbox console? 15 year console generations? Low spec cheap hardware without an arms race?
As funny as it is, it’s not great for the industry, for us.
Can’t help but feel a sense of remorse at this point. Xbox was amazing during the 360 era, now it’s all crumbled and winding up. How will Sony get pushed without threat of an Xbox console? 15 year console generations? Low spec cheap hardware without an arms race?
As funny as it is, it’s not great for the industry, for us.
Is Nintendo going out of business in solidarity when MS takes Xbox out behind the shed?
Seriously, this bullshit that somehow Xbox is important to Sony doing well just mystifies me. Xbox doesn’t mean shit to how Sony does things, and they sure as shit don’t push Sony in any meaningful way.
That tired, idiotic line is what “needs to be kept in check”.
I've yet to see a truly strong, convincing argument for the existence of Xbox directly making things better for Playstation gamers. If anything, Xbox seems to just exist to inconvenience anyone who dares to game on a non-MS platform like Playstation.
You are absolutely clueless thinking competition plays no part in advancement
Do you think that when you go buy bananas, gas or medicine? Who are keeping all these multinationals "in check"?
I've never seen this talk about any other company. As if we need Microsoft to be a watchdog. Valve, Nintendo, PC, Nvidia, Streaming and mobile are all there.
Sony also competes with Ubisoft, EA or 2K as a publisher too.
I'm sure it doesn't even cross mind for other products, you fell for the xbot narrative.
Microsoft is a parasite and the gaming community will be much better without their toxicity.
The notion that Microsoft, of all companies, is some kind of moral North Star for an industry is absurd and infuriating.
MS is one of the most dishonest, greedy, unethical companies on the face of the earth. The only way they’re a positive influence on anything is as the example of what not to be, but gamers are so fucking stupid that they parrot that line about MS being the only thing stopping Sony from draining everyone’s spleens in their sleep.
I really don’t get how anyone can be that stupidly naive.
careful, don't question his superior intellect or his already overblown ego will explode
They had to do something. It’s not like their games and consoles are selling anything great.
Just like they had no choice to put their games on PC.
That said….I don’t fully believe this with the way MS takes games off PlayStation after they buy a studio. Unless that’s all Phil Spencer’s doing alone.
Just like they had no choice to put their games on PC.
That said….I don’t fully believe this with the way MS takes games off PlayStation after they buy a studio. Unless that’s all Phil Spencer’s doing alone.
You think ps6 hardware competes with a mobile chipset?
The reason there is a “console war” is because of 2 opposing products in the same category. Remove one and the incentive for the other to better itself is diminished. It’s not rocket science, it’s a generic fact of open markets in every aspect.
Feels like I’m talking to a 12yo.
Sony competes as a publisher and as a platform holder. 2 seperate businesses.
The only platform holder comparable to a PlayStation is Xbox. No Xbox, no competition, diminished incentive in that category. Nothing more to it.
Nintendo is coming with switch 2 which will by all reports be able to play modern games. Xbox not being in the game doesn't mean Sony can rest easy.
Same! I’ve never owned an Xbox never even used one but I didn’t actively hate Xbox guts until last generation when Phil took over and the fanbase turned into a mindless cult. Now nothing could ever make me want to buy an Xbox play their games or give them a $1. That entire brand can despair forever for all I care.
Sony and Nintendo wont allow Gamepass on their consoles if Xbox exist. Microsoft has to get out of the hardware biz if they want Gamepass on other consoles.