Microsoft's acquisition of Activison Blizzard

[Dabaus]

I wouldn't doubt that they planned to do some kind victory lap at their showcase. Now they have to pull out all the stops to convince people to give them another chance.

I wonder if they still mention it in passing thanks to the recent EU and China approvals? And who knows what the situation will be come mid June.

 

[AshHunter216]

I wonder if they still mention it in passing thanks to the recent EU and China approvals? And who knows what the situation will be come mid June.

lol, no. You've let yourself get stuck in permanent panic mode.

 

[Swift_Star]

I wonder if they still mention it in passing thanks to the recent EU and China approvals? And who knows what the situation will be come mid June.

Not possible.

 

[Eternal_Wings]

Well I still believe the deal will fail. The deadline is in June guys. Imo CMA and FTC blocking this deal, there is absolutely nearly zero chance this deal will go through.

 

[AshHunter216]

Well I still believe the deal will fail. The deadline is in June guys. Imo CMA and FTC blocking this deal, there is absolutely nearly zero chance this deal will go through.

I currently believe the deal is still possible, but not very likely. Also, the deadline is in July.

 

[VillaiN]

Well I still believe the deal will fail. The deadline is in June guys. Imo CMA and FTC blocking this deal, there is absolutely nearly zero chance this deal will go through.

They re bribing every1. Ftc has no chance imo. In court it goes through. Judges re in their pockets just like senators.

Its all on cma. If they ll withstand pressure thats question. They can be independent but they re under huge pressure f4om bribed politicans, goverment, usa and ms lobist....Who knows what they ll offer uk goverment of whoever. We re talking about dirtiest scum on earth. Company that should be nuked. They re taking russia money without second thought.

 

[AshHunter216]

Some of you guys seriously need a break from this, lol.

 

[Eternal_Wings]

Well UK government is siding with CMA. FTC and judges are independent from USA government. There is nothing decided. Most analysts on Wall Street thinks this deal will very likely fail. Oc course it can be approved but the chances for this are very slim.

 

[Killer_Sakoman]

Deal is dead

 

[Swift_Star]

Well UK government is siding with CMA. FTC and judges are independent from USA government. There is nothing decided. Most analysts on Wall Street thinks this deal will very likely fail. Oc course it can be approved but the chances for this are very slim.

Don’t worry about what shills say. The deal is dead. The UK doesn’t want MS ruling the world.

 

[riesgoyfortuna]

A lot of lawyers with thousands of cases experience now in the era thread xD

 

[Cool hand luke]

Well UK government is siding with CMA. FTC and judges are independent from USA government. There is nothing decided. Most analysts on Wall Street thinks this deal will very likely fail. Oc course it can be approved but the chances for this are very slim.

This is important to remember. The UK government is backing the CMA, and the British don't take kindly to threats against their sovereignty like Brad Smith levied.

Deal is dead, folks. Anyone trying to tell you otherwise, especially media outlets, are trying to create exit liquidity for their masters - a lot of them will have built in ABK at $95 into their expectations, so the closer they can get bag holders to buy in at that price, the wealthier they'll be. Florian is undoubtedly hugely down, and heavily leveraged based on his moronic and hysterical flailing every day on twitter. I hope the loan sharks take his legs.

 

[Cool hand luke]

A lot of lawyers with thousands of cases experience now in the era thread xD

Also, they're total buffoons. They're trying to argue that the CAT will find there is no cloud SLC but unfortunately for Microsoft and for them, the EU also agreed there is an SLC. They just accepted the remedies the CMA found unsuitable. It's a dead end.

And typicscroll is straight up lying. The CMA was careful to take all of the CAT's advice on board and work within the guardrails erected during the Meta/Giphy appeal when laying out their reasoning, including not basing thier decision on speculation about the state of the market more than 5 years out and giving significant airplay to its cross check of what would happen absent the block. (I think he's the moron who earlier in the thread ctrl+f'd 'cross check' in the CMA document and couldn't find it, was corrected by someone because the cross check doesn't fall under a section labelled as such, and promptly ignored it to peddle more lies.)

He's trying to conjure a reality where the CMA is acting erratically. Do not listen. He is a filthy liar.

 

[Swift_Star]

Also, they're total buffoons. They're trying to argue that the CAT will find there is no cloud SLC but unfortunately for Microsoft and for them, the EU also agreed there is an SLC. They just accepted the remedies the CMA found unsuitable. It's a dead end.

And typicscroll is straight up lying. The CMA was careful to take all of the CAT's advice on board and work within the guardrails erected during the Meta/Giphy appeal when laying out their reasoning, including not basing thier decision on speculation about the state of the market more than 5 years out and giving significant airplay to its cross check of what would happen absent the block. (I think he's the moron who earlier in the thread ctrl+f'd 'cross check' in the CMA document and couldn't find it, was corrected by someone because the cross check doesn't fall under a section labelled as such, and promptly ignored it to peddle more lies.)

He's trying to conjure a reality where the CMA is acting erratically. Do not listen. He is a filthy liar.

I also don’t think CAT can say there isn’t a cloud SLC.

 

[AshHunter216]

Also, they're total buffoons. They're trying to argue that the CAT will find there is no cloud SLC but unfortunately for Microsoft and for them, the EU also agreed there is an SLC. They just accepted the remedies the CMA found unsuitable. It's a dead end.

And typicscroll is straight up lying. The CMA was careful to take all of the CAT's advice on board and work within the guardrails erected during the Meta/Giphy appeal when laying out their reasoning, including not basing thier decision on speculation about the state of the market more than 5 years out and giving significant airplay to its cross check of what would happen absent the block. (I think he's the moron who earlier in the thread ctrl+f'd 'cross check' in the CMA document and couldn't find it, was corrected by someone because the cross check doesn't fall under a section labelled as such, and promptly ignored it to peddle more lies.)

He's trying to conjure a reality where the CMA is acting erratically. Do not listen. He is a filthy liar.

Yeah, the biggest difference in the EU and CMA rulings is that the EU found the 10 year deals acceptable and the cma did not.

 

[Nitro]

RE Village's marketing deal document was leaked and had a clause where they weren't able to include it in rival game subs for as I remember was 14-15 months after release, something that would be extended if Sony dediced to put it in their game sub instead.

Capcom-Sony co-marketing agreement for Resident Evil Village lasted 12 months:

Tom Warren did his utmost to make this all about "Game Pass Blocking." Back in the real world, Sony's marketing agreements are not limited to any singular "competitive subscription service". They include any existing competitor or future service for the length of the co-marketing window.

And Warren ignored any information from the Capcom leak that illuminated Microsoft's own co-marketing business practices.

If their marketing deal clauses are standard for their deals, pretty likely recent CoD games (plus the ones to be release in the next 2-3 years, that already had a deal signed with Sony) would need to wait over a year after release before being included in GP.

Activision signed a multi-year agreement with Sony for Call of Duty. The term ends in 2024 (jump to 1:30).

You have to wonder how much of the xbox showcase got nuked because of the block lol. Cause you know they were gonna give a segment to abk. Thumping their chest and saying "All old call of dutys on gamepass starting today", probably using crash bandicoot as some kind of poke at playstation.

They've probably been working at top speed to "boost" as many Activision games as possible. Though who knows, they may still reach licence agreement to spite Sony.

 

[Swift_Star]

There is a moron on era that still believe MS will make some effort to not “own” ABK on uk and whatnot. You idiot, if you’re reading this, this is NOT possible.

 

[Yurinka]

Capcom-Sony co-marketing agreement for Resident Evil Village lasted 12 months:

Here's the full game subs section without the important parts you removed. In addition to this 1 year of "exclusive negotiation window", they have 120 days to negotiate exclusively with Sony. If they don't have an agreement, then they can negotiate with other platform (like MS) to include it in a non-Sony game sub. Then Sony has at least 60 days more to negotiate/match that offer. If after these 60 days they don't get an agreement with Sony then they can sign with the other one (MS).

So if Sony tells them to negotiate a this a few days before the year ends, means that during 1 year and 5 months (plus the time they spend to negotiate with MS in the middle) it won't be on GP.

This means that if Sony wants, can keep the game for up to almost a year and a half outside GP and that would be without signing it for PS+. Obviously, if they sign it for PS+ they may make a separate deal, where they could say that during a certain period of time more it won't be in rival game subs.

And yes, both MS and Nintendo also have their own marketing deals or timed exclusivity deals where they also forbid from marketing the game in the booths of direct competitors at events like E3/Gamescom/TGS/etc, including it on rival game subs during a certain period of time etc.

I remember the gross case of -I think it was- Resident Evil 5, where MS got the marketing and the game got originally only announced for Xbox in the first press release, didn't mention PlayStation even if the game got released the same day in both platforms.

 

[riesgoyfortuna]

Also, they're total buffoons. They're trying to argue that the CAT will find there is no cloud SLC but unfortunately for Microsoft and for them, the EU also agreed there is an SLC. They just accepted the remedies the CMA found unsuitable. It's a dead end.

And typicscroll is straight up lying. The CMA was careful to take all of the CAT's advice on board and work within the guardrails erected during the Meta/Giphy appeal when laying out their reasoning, including not basing thier decision on speculation about the state of the market more than 5 years out and giving significant airplay to its cross check of what would happen absent the block. (I think he's the moron who earlier in the thread ctrl+f'd 'cross check' in the CMA document and couldn't find it, was corrected by someone because the cross check doesn't fall under a section labelled as such, and promptly ignored it to peddle more lies.)

He's trying to conjure a reality where the CMA is acting erratically. Do not listen. He is a filthy liar.

Its prof the New Perry mason on the thread, also its cute how there New users with no avatar Just appear from nowhere in that thread, i mean Just read this

 

[Cool hand luke]

Here's the full game subs section without the important parts you removed. In addition to this 1 year of "exclusive negotiation window", they have 120 days to negotiate exclusively with Sony. If they don't have an agreement, then they can negotiate with other platform (like MS) to include it in a non-Sony game sub. Then Sony has at least 60 days more to negotiate/match that offer. If after these 60 days they don't get an agreement with Sony then they can sign with the other one (MS).

So if Sony tells them to negotiate a this a few days before the year ends, means that during 1 year and 5 months (plus the time they spend to negotiate with MS in the middle) it won't be on GP.

This means that if Sony wants, can keep the game for up to almost a year and a half outside GP and that would be without signing it for PS+. Obviously, if they sign it for PS+ they may make a separate deal, where they could say that during a certain period of time more it won't be in rival game subs.

Remember that this is to secure their marketing investment, not out of spite. If Sony was promoting the game but MS was able to just put it on GP, the return on those marketing dollars would be diminished. First right of refusal and exclusive negotiation windows are also pretty standard contract terms.

In short, a nothingburger.