I'm just saying. I don't care how many games are still exclusive on PS5. I'm not moving to PC just because their singleplayer games get delayed PC ports. Half of of those ports aren't even well optimized.
"People buy PlayStation... because there are games you can only play on PlayStation" - Asmongold
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I'm just saying. I don't care how many games are still exclusive on PS5. I'm not moving to PC just because their singleplayer games get delayed PC ports. Half of of those ports aren't even well optimized.
I would say “singleplayer I doubt it” but with Sony new retarded leadership I don’t put it past them doing day n date even after seeing Xbox console, brand & identity implode
Why are there console gamers then? Even before play anywhere became a thing PC had all those advantages over consoles, picture now.
The "Window" so far has been how fast Sony could get a Pzc version ready to release, now that games are being developed in parallel for PS and PC they'll most likely converge to simultaneous release regardless if it is a GaaS, remake or new single player game.
Because back then console like xbox 360 have true exclusve and now since the xbox games are coming to PC it removes the need for people to buy xbox thats why xbox numbers continue to decline
The same mistake sony are doing right now, thats why ps5 numbers start to stall behind ps4
You can always try the usual but but but console gamer preffered the convenience of playing in the living room blablabla knowing well that you can play pc game in living room by now
The fact remain theres large amount of gamer who will go to system with bigger library
This is only from the perspective of a fanboy.
- A Microsoft handheld that runs Steam can only profit from hardware sales i.e. it has to be a high margin device, significantly more expensive than a steam deck
- A steam deck can already play these same games and yet Steam Decks are not flying off the shelves, in fact they aren't even sold at retail because retailers can't make money off of it
- This focus purely on exclusivity in order to sell is shortsighted in today's entertainment environment
When you look at the success of The Witcher, Cyberpunk, and Fallout, you realize that transmedia is way more important and exclusivity actually hurts you rather than helps you in that regard.
Exclusivity mattered more when it came to direct competitors and console wars, but the console wars are over. A lot of fanboys don't realize that because they were so entrenched in the idea of console wars.
Even the idea of consoles as a product has a finite life.
How many people do you think are buying bluray players or even smart devices? The market has shrunk because most of the media can be consumed directly on a tv or on other devices like phones and computers and significant number of consumers are totally fine with consuming their content on devices like that.
Companies have to prepare themselves for a post-console industry.
youre getting it wrong
the game sales stumbles because it went to pc and gamepass
on PC > get pirated like crazy in many third world countries
Game like gears 5 and halo infinite being put on gamepass > removes the need for people to buy the game
Back then xbox has ambitious project that was latter cancelled like scalebound, ryse of rome sequel, fable etc
But now the focus shifted into gaas and cheaper netflix type of game like hifi rush, medium, pentiment etc
The only high profile game they released was Starfield and thats more of Bethesda studio game
I love how you make stuff up and feel zero shame about it.
You don't know how games are developed in the first place. You think Xbox and PS5 have unique architecture and languages that games are developed for them.
They're just PCs in their own right.
There isn't much difference in developing for PC except addressing keyboard/mouse input and optimizing across multiple specs. You clearly don't know how game engines and compilers work. You're just out there in the dark pulling things out of your ass.
I think people in online forums greatly overestimate this whole PC thing. The vast majority of console owners are casuals who don't know or care about any of this. It doesn't help that a decent GPU costs as much as console.
Xbox's main issues are the lack of good games and marketing, especially outside of the US. People just don't seem to care about the brand.
No where in your incoherent ramblings did you answer the question.
In fact, you've back tracked to say it was GamePass and not just being on PC that hurt Xbox and a scaling down of ambition among games due to gamepass.
So please let me know how that applies to Sony.
That's because they wrap ever argument in the cloak of being a fanboy.
They think the market reflects them when it doesn't.
THEY'RE angry so the market must be angry. They want to see Sony punished for their BETRAYAL, so the MARKET will punish them.
It's sad and pathetic actually.
Let me use this easy common sense as a gamer for you
If there xbox having xbox games
And theres playstation having playstation games
And then theres pc having xbox and playstation game
Would you even bother getting xbox and playstation again
You only need PC to get all the other two cos it has the bigger library of games compared the other two
And maybe nintendo around cos they still have true exclusive
Xbox is failing because they've been shitting the bed for over a decade, not because of day 1 PC releases. Sure, they've lost some hardcore fans over this but the vast majority of people just aren't interested in the Xbox brand in general.
The 360 was doing well because it had good games and mainstream mindshare. Believe it or not but many 360 exclusives were also on PC.
Where are these 400 and 500 dollar PCs that are small enough to fit in the living room and boot up and play without having to navigate directly to a launcher.
How many people are going to get a cheap but still effective PC and set it to launch in Steam Big Window mode... like you simply don't understand the market.
Vast majority of console gamers don't want to play on PC. Do you know what doesn't sell well on PC? Most sports games... There are people who ONLY play Fifa/EA FC or ONLY play Madden or ONLY play CoD and they're still playing on console... Fornite is more popular on console than it is on PC...
Until you're willing to recognize this, you're never going to make a sound argument.
The same thing will happened to Sony
Its not instantanious but a rather long process
Sony studio already having trouble releasing game they took 4-5 years to make games now rhey have to consider PC in mind
For PC they have to spend more time to make the game work in various different settings cos theres standard requirement for pc games lile low, medium and high settings
Not to mention sony already lost so many partner like quantic dream, japan studios, ready at dawn, annapurna, liverpool studios etc
The remaining studio has to work harder now to compensate the loss of those studio and have to pump more game ( now have to consider pc in mind) > have to work harder to finish deadline > put a pressure in those studio > could lead to worse product / cut content/ cheap copy paste embironment/ rushed buggy game/ weaker rushed story etc
And then latter slowly after the brand reputation is tarnished you can put sony into that same xbox pedestal
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In reality, most of the best selling 360 games were on PC.
Excluding Kinect Adventures, Halo 3 was the best selling exclusive 360 game. Followed by Halo 4 and Halo Reach.
Gears of War sold 1/3rd the number that Halo 3 sold, let alone the vast multiplatform games on it.
People actively chose Xbox 360 over PC, just as they continue to choose console over PC.
Fanboys are in their feels.. and they need to get over it.
Another lie
All companies are having games take longer to develop and it has nothing to do with PC releases.
Sony literally bought a company to handle PC ports so that their first party studios could focus on making games.
Sony lost so many partners? What has quantic dream made this generation? What about GenDesign the successor to ICO? What has Annapurna made? And did Annapurna games sell well on PS3? Was Ready at Dawn responsible for Sony's success? How so?
Studio Liverpool? You're having a laugh.
Sony has purchased multiple new studios this generation. Some for single player games and many for multiplayer games. They're significantly larger today than they've ever been at any time in their history.
You've again created a narrative in your head that isn't supported by ANY facts.
You keep talking shit about the sony fanboys but the fact remain theyre the core and what keeping playstation alive during ps3
Fanboys are the people that subscribing psplus for years
Fanboys are the people that spend buying games the most
Fanboys are the people that spend most money on dlc, microtransactions
Fanboys are the people that first to buy PS Vita, PSVR2, PSVR2 games, sony peripherals, their obscure indie and aa game
The casuals game rarely buy many game in a year, mostly buy fortnite, cod, assasins creed, nba2k, fifa maybe some few other game here and there
So in other words
Without their core gamer if those core migrate to pc or nintendo and the casual might follow them
Goodluck to sony cos they kinda shit the bed
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Look i get it. This is a gaming forum and people on these forums love to overreact about day 1 PC releases but we're just a tiny minority. The vast majority of people couldn't care less about fist party releases on PC. If Playstation fails, it won't be because of PC ports. Xbox failed because they didn't bother to market their brand for over a decade and most of their games just ended up being average at best with no mainstream appeal. Doesn't help that their hardcore fans are conditioned to not buy games anymore.