PlayStation co-CEO Hideaki Nishino says consoles will remain the core of their business

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This is the 5th biggest Country on Steam, Germany.

Only 15% of PC-Revenue there came from Purchasing Games.


Just goes to show, PlayStation ports are soft on PC for a reason. It wasn't all it was cracked up to be.

PlayStation should have been focused on making it's consoles the only place to experience all the big single player games.

Somehow Taketwo knows this better than Sony...
 

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Just goes to show, PlayStation ports are soft on PC for a reason. It wasn't all it was cracked up to be.

PlayStation should have been focused on making it's consoles the only place to experience all the big single player games.

Somehow Taketwo knows this better than Sony...
GTA 6 will be massive on Playstation!
I bet 70-80% of Year 1 Sales will be on Playstation, at least!
 

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A huge chunk of that money comes from Microtransations and Online-Services.

The specific part of that money that comes from console is distributed in this way (without the bluish hardware part, the graph the other post doesn't include hardware):
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In case of PS, the money include is the one shown here in blue and yellow:
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It's not difficult to see Sony's strategy and their roadmap. Console isn't growing. Even defeating Microsoft, won't change that all that much. Many of those Xbox consumers will move to PC or Microsoft's hybrid PC.

They're a platform holder. They aren't just making PC games to pay Valve 20% in perpetuity. By the end of the decade they'll have a PC launcher and storefront. And no this launcher doesn't need to "defeat" Steam. As quickly as Sony reaches a threshold where their sales are as high as they would have been minus the 20 percent royalty, they're already in a net positive position. You add 3rd party sales to the equation and it's a no brainer.

This is particularly important for GaaS.

By the end of the decade they'll be back in the portable space too. Another no brainer. Games are scalable now that you don't need to support the handheld with unique games and the technology is there to have games from consoles play on handheld, and people are okay with larger portable devices. Creating another portable will get them significantly more market share in Japan, and bring many of these games back to PlayStation.

Sony's strategy is obvious. Be everywhere in gaming.

This extends to mobile, but mobile is the must difficult market to really get into, even more so than GaaS. It's high risk high reward at this point, which is why Sony has really been slow to roll out their mobile plans.

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You'll note they haven't really done anything on mobile between 2022 and now. FY25 starts in April, but the general plan was for there to be no PS4 games in FY25.
if console isn't growing, up the prices for games to $80, subscriptions to $100/$150/$200 and consoles to $699 by standard, but don't cannibalize your platform like this and ruin its legacy of more than 30 years with a platform that doesn't even sell games, Sony's best selling singleplayer game on PC doesn't even have 4M units sold in more than 4 years.
 

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Let's play a game.

Sony listens to you. Sticks to consoles... for reasons...

Consoles continue to fail to grow.

Big Tech eats up 3rd party publishers.

Sony's revenue diminishes.

As a result we get fewer and fewer first party games and safer and safer choices.

The price of PS hardware continues to increase to make up for the declining sales, but the lack of games can't be made up for.

Cloud gaming continues to rise and fewer and fewer 3rd party games make it to the PlayStation console.

Sony can no longer afford to do hardware and decides to just focus on software on other platforms cloud and PC...

Somehow you think staying in place in business is an effective strategy, but it isn't in tech. That's literally blockbuster's strategy and RIM and Sony's in electronics.
Microsoft is not buying publishers anymore, even if they are, they're putting everything on PlayStation, consoles don't need to grow, if spending per costumer continues to grow like it has this generation, that's what matters the most, Sony's revenue is better than ever and it's NOT thanks to PC, we're getting fewer first party games right now cause they wasted billions with GAAs following trends people like you defend, PC IS NOT SIGNIFICANT in sales for PlayStation, they'll have a bump in sales this year due to Helldivers 2 but the game is already dead and next year their revenue from PC will continue to fall substantially
 

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it's incredible how people continue to defend this idea that PC needs to be supported at cost of the core product and it's relevance but Nintendo is doing just fine with their console, selling each one of them at a profit, with its IPs selling 40/50M copies, they make more profit than Sony, that's the company Sony should be looking to replicate, focus 1000% on their own IPs and growing them through TV/Movies, like The Last Of Us HBO and Uncharted Movie for example and make people come to your box, not to PC to play your games, specially to a monopolistic storefront like Steam that is an evident threat to PlayStation's long term survival in the market
 
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It's truly a mistery why this is happening.
Introducing PS5! But you don't need to buy it because we will port everything to PC
Okay we won't then

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They (Sony) were building something INCREDIBLE and INDISPENSABLE for any core gamer with Only On PlayStation and PS4, on that generation their games started to sell in the range of 15/20M units, they've NEVER sold that much copies for any first party title on PS1, PS2 and PS3, the focus was starting to be around their tentpole exclusive titles... games were starting to sell 4/5M units IN A SINGLE WEEK like The Last Of Us Part II, God Of War Ragnarok and Spiderman 2 did from 2020 to now, but then... they go and put the biggest reason why MANY buy a PlayStation on a PC without the need to pay for online gaming, being cheaper and on a competitor storefront like Steam.
 

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it would be way easier to justify a $699 PS5 and a most likely $699 - $799 PS6 if that's the only place i can play God Of War, The Last Of Us, Horizon, Spiderman, Wolverine, Ghost Of Tsushima, EXCLUSIVES MATTER IN ANY FORM OF ENTERTAINMENT, you'll never see Netflix putting Stranger Things on Disney+ even if they stop growing on subscribers, what they'll do is increase the prices to make more money, that's all
 

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Just goes to show, PlayStation ports are soft on PC for a reason. It wasn't all it was cracked up to be.

PlayStation should have been focused on making it's consoles the only place to experience all the big single player games.

Somehow Taketwo knows this better than Sony...
Sackboy hasn't even sold 100k copies, Ratchet? not even 500k copies... Uncharted? same as Ratchet...
 

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They (Sony) were building something INCREDIBLE and INDISPENSABLE for any core gamer with Only On PlayStation and PS4, on that generation their games started to sell in the range of 15/20M units, they've NEVER sold that much copies for any first party title on PS1, PS2 and PS3, the focus was starting to be around their tentpole exclusive titles... games were starting to sell 4/5M units IN A SINGLE WEEK like The Last Of Us Part II, God Of War Ragnarok and Spiderman 2 did from 2020 to now, but then... they go and put the biggest reason why MANY buy a PlayStation on a PC without the need to pay for online gaming, being cheaper and on a competitor storefront like Steam.
Their board was infiltrated, if you ask me.
 

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I have absolutely no doubt.

I think it will also drive PS5 pro to be sold out for a year after it's release or something crazy like that.
GTA is a very mainstream game, it will sell PS5s but it may not have an effect on the pro. Pro will sell to the same people who bought PS4 pro and may incentives some PC gamers who are runing on very old hardware and need significant upgrade. That's why PCMR are raging over the pro on youtube and are creating these $800 PC to convince their little brothers to stick to PC 🤣.