Reuters: Sony in talks to buy media powerhouse behind 'Elden Ring', sources say

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I'm curious to see if Sony can actually get a deal done. Everytime theirs a rumor they're about to buy something, they don't get the deal done.

Their is nothing concrete. They're still discussing it. Nothing firm. Could fall apart.

Sure it's a leak. Leaks and rumors are kind of the same thing. This deal isn't concrete. They can walk away anytime.

A LOI(letter of intent)is more than just a rumor or still in talking phase.

That letter apparently has all the details of what Sony wants to pay and what they want to do with Kadokawa after purchase. If Kadokawa wasn’t even slightly interested, there would’ve been no letter written.

This couldn’t have just happened. The letter and agreement was probably done months ago. It’s only now that it’s being reported on and why Reuters is saying the deal could be announced publicly in a few weeks.

I don’t believe Sony’s previous intentions to buy a company had any LOI. And as far as we know, there’s nobody else that wants to buy Kadokawa.
 
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Every fandom has toxic fanboys but Nintendo fanboys used to be much more tolerable during the Wii/Wii U days. 😁

I agree with you completely. On Nintendo Life, Nintendo fanboys openly criticize Sony, e.g. they say it's ruining the gaming industry and praise Nintendo's every move. Read the comments about Sony's acquisition of Kadokawa on Nintendo Life, you will be shocked when you see all the negative comments about Sony itself. The fact is that Nintendo fanboys can't stand the fact that Sony is by far the best company in gaming. In my opinion, Nintendo fanboys are in the same rank as Xbots.
 
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According to Endymion (YouTuber) there is currently a civil war inside Sony between the Japanese and American side. Basically Japan wants to go back to the traditional non woke way and America wants to double down on the woke insanity. However America has had a lot of under performing games lately so that is giving Japan a lot of leverage.

Apparently, this deal is away for Sony Japan to go back to the traditional way capitalizing on from software. I know it’s all a rumor from a YouTuber, but I think he’s been around long enough and I feel like just looking from the outside and this kind of adds up.
LoL I don't believe there's a civil war inside Sony.
But they probably want a good balance between their western focused and asian focused studios.
 

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it also, not the first time it happened inside Playstation. i hope, this time Japan will win and they shift away from west.

at this point in time, gamers resonate more with east culture. so it should be great shift.
The problem is that it will be difficult for Sony to regain the Japanese market, since the Japanese favor Nintendo the most
 

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The problem is that it will be difficult for Sony to regain the Japanese market, since the Japanese favor Nintendo the most
i don't think, it is about japanese market, more about the culture inside Playstation and direction.

there is no chance inside Japan, they favor handhelds by huge margin and Playstation have nothing for it. nor hardware nor software.
 
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These PC stores / launchers are platforms. They have different things, but like consoles, their main business revolves around a store where they sell games and DLC's/IAPs.

In cases like EA, Epìc or Ubisoft they don't aim to compete against Steam (even less against consoles), in their case their main focus is to sell their own games skipping the 20/30% revenue cut sent to Steam or others.

Regarding PC stores vs consoles, PC does not compete against consoles because their demographics, gaming habits, purchasing habits, genre preferences, place of the house where they are played and several other things are very different. The userbase overlap between both represents a percent pretty small.

How can you say this, while ignoring that some consoles (like Xbox) share 100% of their library with Steam, and others like PS5 share like 90% of the same library? When PC share in markets like Japan have grown to almost match console, whose share of that market has stagnated over the same period of time? When many 3P games that didn't see releases on PC until years later, now prioritize Day 1 for platforms like Steam?

And like @Landiri was saying, these storefronts are platforms and practice a lot of the same competition as console hardware. Steam is littered to the brim with exclusive games; like @DarkLordOtaku said, Steam had 'first mover's advantage' and that allowed them to build up so much market share naturally over the years that they basically get defacto exclusives. It's actually similar to what the PS2 was able to do, though that platform was less about first mover's advantage (Dreamcast beat them to the punch) than it was a combination of that (vs. Gamecube & Xbox) and shoring up a strong library of exclusives in a year's time or so, plus the benefit of DVD playback.

Honestly the parallels between Steam and PS2 are quite strong and I'd say the time it took for other launchers like EGS and GOG to come into their own fits about well with the time it took for Gamecube & Xbox to come to market when considering the console market was quite mature by early '00s while the digital storefront market was in its infancy for the '00s and some of the 2010s'.

Anyone who says they want "real competition" should know that any new competitor in a space against an incumbent like Steam, has to leverage SOME form of content exclusivity to build up real momentum. Simply competing on features does nothing, otherwise TV & film streaming services would be doing the same thing. But Steam fanboys continuously ignore this because they know it's the truth, and they simply don't want to see Steam be legitimately threatened by another storefront on PC. They don't want competition.

According to Endymion (YouTuber) there is currently a civil war inside Sony between the Japanese and American side. Basically Japan wants to go back to the traditional non woke way and America wants to double down on the woke insanity. However America has had a lot of under performing games lately so that is giving Japan a lot of leverage.

Apparently, this deal is away for Sony Japan to go back to the traditional way capitalizing on from software. I know it’s all a rumor from a YouTuber, but I think he’s been around long enough and I feel like just looking from the outside and this kind of adds up.

1: How would HE know this?​
2: It sounds like a parody of SEGA of Japan vs SEGA of America during the '90s​
3: Companies aren't spending billions and making long-term changes to their businesses with long-term effects over a stupid (mostly hyper-Americanized) culture war.​

If Sony of Japan assumes control of the gaming side again, it'll simply be due to being more cost-effective and in line with whatever tastes they favor for the market. These companies don't care about woke vs. non-woke nearly as much as some people think. I.e., almost all of these companies have both liberal and conservative investors, take investments from both, and have done so for decades.

It's always about the money, and that means they'll pander to anyone when the money's right, woke or anti-woke. They laugh at this culture war stuff BTS, because they know it's stupid.
 
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Stop right there. You are an incel. You'll make a stuff up just to push an agenda.
Except we actually have video proof of him being afraid of women. Serious mommy issues with that one. The typical "wahmen bad" youtube channel, without context. The opposite side of the same braindead coin the radical left subscribes to.
 
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Except we actually have video proof of him being afraid of women. Serious mommy issues with that one. The typical "wahmen bad" youtube channel, without context. The opposite side of the same braindead coin the radical left subscribes to.
The thing is, it has nothing to do with the argument.
Want to be a stupid clown? Attack person.
Want to be an intelligent human being, attack the argument.

Clear, where you fall in all of this.
 

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Clear, where you fall in all of this.
I fall on the sidelines, watching two braindead groups trying to inject their bullshit into everything.

If it's not a group of people using selective screenshots to show how Aloy is ugly or has facial hair, it's the pronoun police, getting triggered over everything.

You don't have to subscribe to either extreme. They're both the same, just triggered over different things.

Just because I don't like anti-woke internet grifters that are looking for things to get offended by, doesn't mean I have to like woke BS being pushed into everything.
 

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Concord and Firewalk pulled some DEI grift on Sony, thus its outrageous price. It’s indicative of western game development collapsing. Costly and no one cares. (I may have heard from a friend elsewhere that endymion’s rumor may be sorta true)

Money talks in the end and stuff like Helldivers and Wukong are def noticed. They don’t want to see this happen again although Fairgame$ is a likely candidate to repeat Concord’s fate.

Sony already have their bets on Chinese and Korean devs and I think that’s a great move. 2024 was something else tho. Woke trash failed back to back, one after another, from acolyte to concord.

The course correction is already in effect tho. No matter the reason for the From bid… I want to see it happen.
 

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I know there was Xbot speculation that this was the case to better support their reverse Uno narrative about Xbox then buying Bethesda but where is the evidence that Sony wanted this?
Actually at the time, rumours were, that Sony bid for bethesda 3.5 billions, but inside of bethesda someone leaked it to microsoft, they came, put 8.3 billions and deal was done because sony couldn't match it.

No one would have match it, it was complete waste of money.

Starfield rumor was never proved really.
 

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According to Endymion (YouTuber) there is currently a civil war inside Sony between the Japanese and American side. Basically Japan wants to go back to the traditional non woke way and America wants to double down on the woke insanity. However America has had a lot of under performing games lately so that is giving Japan a lot of leverage.

Apparently, this deal is away for Sony Japan to go back to the traditional way capitalizing on from software. I know it’s all a rumor from a YouTuber, but I think he’s been around long enough and I feel like just looking from the outside and this kind of adds up.
endymion is a bullshit artist
 

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I think it was in the leaked FTC documents.

It was Iman Karan I believe(?).

Actually at the time, rumours were, that Sony bid for bethesda 3.5 billions, but inside of bethesda someone leaked it to microsoft, they came, put 8.3 billions and deal was done because sony couldn't match it.

No one would have match it, it was complete waste of money.

Starfield rumor was never proved really.
Sounds like no one knows - great FUD by Microsoft and their lapdogs. I know Imran is one of them and he did claim Sony was making the rounds at every third party pub to secure exclusives - they of course got Ghostwire Tokyo and Deathloop from Bethesda.
 
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I know there was Xbot speculation that this was the case to better support their reverse Uno narrative about Xbox then buying Bethesda but where is the evidence that Sony wanted this?

Probably Irman Khan, the same person who said SIE were "asking every 3P" for exclusives back in 2020.

When if you count the number of actual big 3P exclusives for PS5 or even big 3P marketing deals specifically with the platform, is nowhere near the exaggerated level of his original rumors back then. But somehow, some way, Microsoft took those rumors as reasons to buy Zenimax when the only timed exclusives SIE got from them were Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo, both new IP and much smaller games than Starfield.

Even in buying Zenimax, Microsoft proved they could have just paid more for exclusivity to Starfield if they wanted, vs. buying them outright. The truth is Zenimax wanted to be purchased and Microsoft were one of the first companies they approached. Microsoft accepted, but had to boogeyman Sony/SIE to trick people into public support vs. just being upfront about how that deal came about.

Concord and Firewalk pulled some DEI grift on Sony, thus its outrageous price. It’s indicative of western game development collapsing. Costly and no one cares. (I may have heard from a friend elsewhere that endymion’s rumor may be sorta true)

Money talks in the end and stuff like Helldivers and Wukong are def noticed. They don’t want to see this happen again although Fairgame$ is a likely candidate to repeat Concord’s fate.

Sony already have their bets on Chinese and Korean devs and I think that’s a great move. 2024 was something else tho. Woke trash failed back to back, one after another, from acolyte to concord.

The course correction is already in effect tho. No matter the reason for the From bid… I want to see it happen.

I think SIE have noticed the issues with Concord and are probably having any overtly far left-leaning messages in Fairgame$ scrubbed out and removed. Hopefully those character designs are on-point, too.

Again there's nothing wrong with diversity at all, but don't be patronizing and heavy-handed about it. I thought we would've learned this by now going from the cool diversity we saw in a lot of '90s and '00s films and TV shows, but I guess not. Because if anything, Hollywood's regressed since then and since a lot of Western AAA games try emulating modern Hollywood, they've been making all the same mistakes.

Like no one genuinely has a problem with black or Asian or whatever characters in a fantasy work, but if that's a work based on actual 12th-century Scotland I'm not expecting half the cast to be non-white (or almost any of the cast really, if talking the human characters). It's different vs. having dragons and gnomes or whatnot because those are fictional creatures based on real-world animals that are very common in those areas. People are going to notice when every other major Western AAA 3P fantasy-action game's pushing a black female lead who always defaults to the same look (afro hair, overweight, half-shaved head etc.) and know that it's probably due to agenda, not natural creativity.

Same with the race swaps, gender swaps, extreme focus on pronouns and sexuality etc. No need for that; just add new characters to the stories who can work well with established ones. Again, that was normal in the '90s and '00s but somehow got abandoned in years to follow with Hollywood movies & TV. Stop trying to remove breasts, hips & booty from every female character to "defeat the male gaze" when plenty of women don't like that either. Stop trying to say there's a million genders (there aren't), stop trying to push so much extreme Marxist/communist political propaganda when the vast majority don't like that stuff, of any color/gender/orientation.
 
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I fall on the sidelines, watching two braindead groups trying to inject their bullshit into everything.

If it's not a group of people using selective screenshots to show how Aloy is ugly or has facial hair, it's the pronoun police, getting triggered over everything.

You don't have to subscribe to either extreme. They're both the same, just triggered over different things.

Just because I don't like anti-woke internet grifters that are looking for things to get offended by, doesn't mean I have to like woke BS being pushed into everything.
if you fall on the sidelines, why proceed with personal attacks!?(rhetorical question).

second, you can always filtrate it through the notion, if someone, who you respect, said that, would you engage with the argument? (if that's help you) is the argument farfetch? complete nonsense? or another type of fallacy. if it isn't, why start personal attacks without addressing the argument first? if it is one of those fallacies, what is a point proceed into personal attacks without disputing those fallacies first?

third, are you calling football channels grifters? are you calling fashion channels grifters? are you calling food channels grifters?
 

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I fall on the sidelines, watching two braindead groups trying to inject their bullshit into everything.

If it's not a group of people using selective screenshots to show how Aloy is ugly or has facial hair, it's the pronoun police, getting triggered over everything.

You don't have to subscribe to either extreme. They're both the same, just triggered over different things.

Just because I don't like anti-woke internet grifters that are looking for things to get offended by, doesn't mean I have to like woke BS being pushed into everything.
hilarious that neither side realizes how similar they both are.

immature people who simply cannot accept anything as it stands. the types to bitch and moan rather than just moving on to something else.