Sony Downplays the Risk of PlayStation Users Switching to PCs in a Recent Q&A.

Muddasar

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Wait, wait wait. I was assured by people on this forum that the PS5 sales, when launch aligned with PS4 were the same.
Those same people told us that there's no way that the PS5 would fall behind PS4 sales and suggestion such was JUST DOOMING

What happened?

Tales from your backside.
 

Boswollox

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And what’s your point? You expect 115 million PS5 sales in 4 years.

It is the same in every generation. Did the PS4 sell 117 million in 4 years?

Have they lost these gamers to PC? NO.
Who said anything about PC?

If PS5 sales are falling behind PS4 sales and those customers who are right there, don't want to upgrade to PS5 after four years, then the PS5 has worse value proposition than a 10 year old console. You see no problem with that?
 
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Muddasar

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So there aren't threads on this forum where users have been called doomers for saying PS5 will fall behind PS4 sales?

Bet your account on that.

Provide a source. It has been behind for time.

There has been no price drop but an increase. Massive shortages and the PS5 Pro has come a year later which is double the price too.

These factors explain the gap more than the usual PC ports nonsense.

Man is talking like the PS5 is 20 million behind.
 

Boswollox

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Provide a source. It has been behind for time.
Bet your account on it.

You called me a liar for making such a claim. I want consequences for your accusations.
You call me and others' liars constantly and now I want you taking to task.

Bet your account on me being a liar. Do it and I'll provide a source.
 

Muddasar

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Who said anything about PC?

If PS5 sales are falling behind PS4 sales and those customers who are right there, don't want to upgrade to PS5 after four years, then the PS5 has worse value proposition than a 10 year old console. You see no problem with that?

Did the PS4 sell 117 million in 4 years?

No. That means PS3 gamers didn’t want to upgrade and the PS4 is a worse value proposition than a 10 year old console.

What logic.

Again it has everything to do with PS5 Price, shortages and even the PS5 Pro coming a year later.

Not to forget the most popular games are still receiving PS4 ports. FIFA, COD etc.

It has nothing to do with PC ports.
 
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Muddasar

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Bet your account on it.

You called me a liar for making such a claim. I want consequences for your accusations.
You call me and others' liars constantly and now I want you taking to task.

Bet your account on me being a liar. Do it and I'll provide a source.

Get a life man.

You are taking this forum shit too seriously.
 

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Did the PS4 sell 117 million in 4 years?

No. That means PS3 gamers didn’t want to upgrade and the PS4 is a worse value proposition than a 10 year old console.

What logic.

Again it has everything to do with PS5 Price, shortages and even the PS5 Pro coming a year later.

Not to forget the most popular games are still receiving PS4 ports. FIFA, COD etc.

It has nothing to do with PC ports.
You asked him for a source. He asked you to bet your account on it.
What's your amswer?
 
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Some big assumptions being made like that everyone takes the hardware survey, which obviously isn't remotely true. No AMD card matches a pro due to certain feature sets on the Pro, I'm sure you're aware of that. I don't think next year's cards are going to be all that appealing either, I think many gamers would rather just spend the 700 on a Pro to get Silent Hill 2 remake at 60fps without stutters rather than 2-3K and it still might have stutters.

Either way there is a percentage hurt the sales of PS5 and the ROI for putting these games on PC are laughable at best. It's brand sabotage we're watching here and many are saying I would rather build a PC slightly more expensive as jack of all trades instead of a Pro.
 

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Guys, hear me out. This is true. It's based on data they have.

Keep in mind that this is answering shareholders and outright lying in situations like this carries some serious jail time. So this is true, based on hard data.

The real question is, are they looking at this short or long term. How will this affect hardcore fans, because casuals don't care about PC gaming?
 

Muddasar

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Guys, hear me out. This is true. It's based on data they have.

Keep in mind that this is answering shareholders and outright lying in situations like this carries some serious jail time. So this is true, based on hard data.

The real question is, are they looking at this short or long term. How will this affect hardcore fans, because casuals don't care about PC gaming?

Nah mate Sony is lying.

Just like they were lying about PS5 Pro launch sales being better than PS4 Pro.