Sony Downplays the Risk of PlayStation Users Switching to PCs in a Recent Q&A.

[Puff]

In a recent Q&A from a G&NS segment, Sony downplayed the risk of users switching from PS5 to PC, stating that they do not consider it a major concern.

The PC gaming market is a serious threat. Sony may be confident now, but the rise of PC gaming will shift the balance in the future

 

[Muddasar]

In a recent Q&A from a G&NS segment, Sony downplayed the risk of users switching from PS5 to PC, stating that they do not consider it a major concern.

The PC gaming market is a serious threat. Sony may be confident now, but the rise of PC gaming will shift the balance in the future

“So far”

Whatever the case, at least they are aware and monitoring it.

 

[ethomaz]

They are right.

The number of people migrating to PC if exists at all is very small.
Sales on PlayStation shows that.
In fact this gen the sales of multi platform games on PS5 increased like the recent example: CoD.

Think a bit about… how you have increase in multiplataform sales and people moving to PC at the same time? One of them is not happening.

If gamers where moving to PC the PS5’s game sales should decrease… not increase.

 

[Muddasar]

They are right.

The number of people migrating to PC if exists at all is very small.
Sales shows that.

Agree.

The worst case scenario is hard core gamers migrating.

The same ones congregating on these forums and dooming.

They form a minority of Playstation gamers yet seem to think they influence the majority of gamers.

 

[ethomaz]

Agree.

The worst case scenario is hard core gamers migrating.

The same ones congregating on these forums and dooming.

They form a minority of Playstation gamers yet seem to think they influence the majority of gamers.

I don’t know.

If hardcores where really migrating to PC they should not be talking about PlayStation all the time

I just don’t see even most hardcore moving… some here or there of course but I don’t think the numbers have any impact at all.

PS. And if these guys saying that are moving to PC are just Xbox users that never had a PS5 and come to forums and twitters says they are moving from PS5 to PC

 

[Muddasar]

I don’t know.

If hardcores where really migrating to PC they should not be talking about PlayStation all the time

Cause they can’t move on. Still in love with their Ex.

 

[Yobo]

PS5 user LTV is $622

Even if they only lost a million users, they will never make close to that money back on Steam game sales

Only a fool would consider losing far higher revenue users to not be an issue

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Great questions from competent shareholders.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

less than like 5% of steam users has a PC capable of matching or surpassing a pro, it's not a real worry

 

[BillyZ]

Sure buddy don't worry about it. We'll be lining up to buy your PS6 with all your games on PC day and date and maybe even all your games crossgen. You'll do so well.

 

[Muddasar]

Sure buddy don't worry about it. We'll be lining up to buy your PS6 with all your games on PC day and date and maybe even all your games crossgen. You'll do so well.

Moved on to the PS6 now?

What happened to the PS5 is doomed narrative?

 

[Explosive Zombie]

Moved on to the PS6 now?

What happened to the PS5 is doomed narrative?

You just wait for PS12 it's over

 

[BillyZ]

Moved on to the PS6 now?

What happened to the PS5 is doomed narrative?

Nothing. PS5 will fail to sell more than 100 million.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

Nothing. PS5 will fail to sell more than 100 million.

Ever?

 

[Old Gamer]

Moved on to the PS6 now?

What happened to the PS5 is doomed narrative?

Stop with this dishonest strawman.

There never was a "PS5 is doomed" narrative.

Everyone has been warning about long-term damage to the brand for years. People here have warned about it ever since the HZD PC port was announced. That's not just "oh PS5 is doomed".

 

[ethomaz]

Stop with this dishonest strawman.

There never was a "PS5 is doomed" narrative.

Everyone has been warning about long-term damage to the brand for years. People here have warned about it ever since the HZD PC port was announced. That's not just "oh PS5 is doomed".

Are us in the same forum or the Doomers and Gloomers are starting to change narratives?

Or perhaps only Sony is doomed while PS5 not?

Too confusing to be a doomer.

 

[Muddasar]

Stop with this dishonest strawman.

There never was a "PS5 is doomed" narrative.

Everyone has been warning about long-term damage to the brand for years. People here have warned about it ever since the HZD PC port was announced. That's not just "oh PS5 is doomed".

Seriously?

 

[Muddasar]

Are us in the same forum or the Doomers and Gloomers are starting to change narratives?

Or perhaps only Sony is doomed while PS5 not?

Too confusing to be a doomer.

Maybe we have been on a different forum.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Funny thing is the PS4 Pro existed specifically to prevent bleeding their audience towards the PC because that's what happened in the last half of the PS3 era.

But keeping their customer base from bleeding to the PC only works if the hardware is subsidized, otherwise it'll lose value to the PC pretty quickly.

Problem is Totoki can't grasp any of this. The guy only cares for the end result in his excel sheet on the short term.

Nothing good ever comes from having the Chief Financial Officer take the reins of a massive company.
It's how we got videogame studios and publishers to massively embrace DEI consultants, because their CFOs mandated they needed the cheap credit from ESG scores to decrease expenditure.

less than like 5% of steam users has a PC capable of matching or surpassing a pro, it's not a real worry

From the latest hardware survey:

RTX 4070: 2.8%
RTX 3080: 2%
RTX 4070 Super: 1.5%
RTX 4070 Ti: 1.1%
RTX 4090: 0.9%
RTX 4080: 0.7%
RTX 3080 Ti: 0.7%
RTX 4080 Super: 0.6%
RTX 4070 Ti Super: 0.5%
RTX 3090: 0.5%
RX 7900XTX: 0.4%

I count around 12% of Steam users with a GPU that matches or surpasses the PS5 Pro (and likely a vastly faster CPU, 2x more RAM, etc.).
It's probably closer to 15% because AMD cards don't get well detected, but let's just stick to 12%.

Steam has 132 monthly million active users, so every month there are around 16 million users with gaming hardware that matches or surpasses the PS5 Pro.
16 million is more than the PS4 Pro sold in its lifetime, which cost around half of what the PS5 Pro does for most of the world.

We're also in the verge of getting a new generation of graphics cards matching the PS5 Pro from Nvidia, AMD and Intel, and it's very likely their popular high-volume selling midranges will match or surpass the PS5 Pro in performance and features. So those 16 million will be many more within 2025.

 

[Explosive Zombie]

Funny thing is the PS4 Pro existed specifically to prevent bleeding their audience towards the PC because that's what happened in the last half of the PS3 era.

But keeping their customer base from bleeding to the PC only works if the hardware is subsidized, otherwise it'll lose value to the PC pretty quickly.

Problem is Totoki can't grasp any of this. The guy only cares for the end result in his excel sheet on the short term.

Nothing good ever comes from having the Chief Financial Officer take the reins of a massive company.
It's how we got videogame studios and publishers to massively embrace DEI consultants, because their CFOs mandated they needed the cheap credit from ESG scores to decrease expenditure.



From the latest hardware survey:

RTX 4070: 2.8%
RTX 3080: 2%
RTX 4070 Super: 1.5%
RTX 4070 Ti: 1.1%
RTX 4090: 0.9%
RTX 4080: 0.7%
RTX 3080 Ti: 0.7%
RTX 4080 Super: 0.6%
RTX 4070 Ti Super: 0.5%
RTX 3090: 0.5%
RX 7900XTX: 0.4%

I count around 12% of Steam users with a GPU that matches or surpasses the PS5 Pro (and likely a vastly faster CPU, 2x more RAM, etc.).
It's probably closer to 15% because AMD cards don't get well detected, but let's just stick to 12%.

Steam has 132 monthly million active users, so every month there are around 16 million users with gaming hardware that matches or surpasses the PS5 Pro.
16 million is more than the PS4 Pro sold in it's lifetime, which cost around half of what the PS5 Pro does for most of the world.

We're also in the verge of getting a new generation of graphics cards matching the PS5 Pro from Nvidia, AMD and Intel, and it's very likely their popular high-volume selling midranges will match or surpass the PS5 Pro in performance and features. So those 16 million will be many more within 2025.

Some big assumptions being made like that everyone takes the hardware survey, which obviously isn't remotely true. No AMD card matches a pro due to certain feature sets on the Pro, I'm sure you're aware of that. I don't think next year's cards are going to be all that appealing either, I think many gamers would rather just spend the 700 on a Pro to get Silent Hill 2 remake at 60fps without stutters rather than 2-3K and it still might have stutters.