Sony forecasted 18 million units for the fiscal year
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If it can he should be able to easily show it, but it can't so he says, do your own "research."
1080p in 2024
Can you go on to PC picker and price up this very good PC so I can have a laugh.
Do your own leg work.1080p in 2024
Can you go on to PC picker and price up this very good PC so I can have a laugh.
Nothing wrong with 1080p in 2024. 4k isn't worth the money for the extra pixels.
Which is why anyone who buys a top class GPU is a clown.
Paying £2k to run ubislop games at 4k with RT? Yeah those people are retarded.
He says this because some of the takes in this thread are beyond insane and flat out ignorant to anyone with a functioning brain. Some of you people do not live in the real world and have no idea what you are talking about. Why should he waste his time educating you when you won't even listen anyway? A very capable PC can be built for $700.
But muh "pre-builds are a fairer comparison". No they're not. If you know what you are doing, you can save a ton of money building your own. Just because the PS5 or Pro are "pre-built", it doesn't mean someone with actual technical knowhow shouldn't be allowed to compare something they can knock up themselves on a Saturday morning for the same amount of money. If you aren't able to do this, maybe learn a new skill instead of screaming at people on a gaming forum.
Everyone shouting off about "muh inflation!!" Have you ever considered how expensive it was to produce consoles in the 80s, 90s, and 2000s? Have you considered the gains that have been made in streamlining production at scale and the various associated cost savings? Have you considered that tech, generally, has cratered in price over the past 20 years? Inflation is a very, very small part of the story.
Many people here just seem to scream retarded things that fit their ill-informed agenda and then get pissy when they get called out on it. Any new information just gets bent and twisted to fit the said agenda, regardless of whether it contradicts points which were made before. If anything though, at least it makes for a good chuckle.
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In the time it took you to write this you could have put together a PC parts picker with this so called capable 700 dollar PC.
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XONE suffered, but still had a strong position, the situation was saved by the reputation of XBOX360 and a line of good exclusive games, and at that time there were large third-party projects that sold well on XONE.
The PC ports knocked XONE out, and GamePass smashed its skull.
But we also hear that “it's not the PC's fault, and it doesn't compete with consoles at all”...
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I'm not going to do that and neither are you because it's complete bollocks.
So basically you're broke, and you're just going to ignore the tons of AAA games that are released. Sounds pretty retarded. You're happy playing it 1080p though so it's indicative of your low standards like I said.
I know, this is why I never said that revenue isn't money. I said this generation they are making more revenue AND profit than ever before.
Yes, they making more revenue and profit than ever is a good thing for them, for the share holders and for the gamers.
They can reinvest that money on hiring more people and acquiring more companies, and to increase the amount of games or movies they work on at the same time. Which is what they have been doing.
As I remember:
God of War Ragnarok
Horizon Call of the Mountain
Ratchet Rift Apart
Firewall Ultra
Marvel's Spider-Man 2
Helldivers 2
Rise of the Ronin
Steallar Blade
Concord
Astro Bot
Plus the TLOU2 and Until Dawn remasters and (often timed, often console) exclusive 3rd party games like FFVII Rebirth, ZZZ etc.
Sony said they made more profit this generation than in all the previous ones combined and shown the graph I shared, that says that they did:
-This generation until March) $10B in profit
-The previous ones combined ($3B+$2B-$4B+9$B) = $10B in profit
The difference must be less than $1B, but what they say is true.
They said that to their investors, and they can't lie to them so it's true. We also knew via other companies that had the same issues with rising costs of components, even a lack of them during some period. Many other companies, not only console or PC GPU manufacturers also increased their prices.
No, they didn't. Sony explained it multiple times. They started selling the console at a little loss, and after some time one sku was sold at a profit. But then they had the cost increases and went back to sell the console at a loss, and costs kept rising to the point Totoki said they had to improve profitability elsewhere to compensate it.
With the profits of the other first party games, PS Plus and specially the 30% of the 3rd party games and addons sold in PS. Their main source of revenue and profit by far is the 3rd party stuff sold in ther storefront, not the first party games.
It is the reality, not bullshit. The normal people like me believe the facts, in this case the oficial, objective worldwide sales and country specific sales for the countries available. And they say what I said.
Brain rot fanboy flatearthers instead reject all the factual data (like the one I posted) if they don't like it, but this is not my issue.
Bullshit. I already debunked this flatearthery with the yearly sales graphs of the main consoles:
Why don't you just accept the reality? Consoles have a yearly sales curve, and after their peak they decline. Not only PS5, PS4 and PS3. Basically all of them.
It isn't a magic buzzword, it's just the only way to seriously compare if a product is selling faster than other one.
PS5 already sold 61.8M as of June 2024 with still half of the PS userbase in PS4 and many supersellers like GTA, EA FC, CoD, Fortnite, AC, etc. are still being supported in PS4. Once they stop get supported there more people will migrate to PS5. And even if it isn't the case, it is obvious that it will end selling way more than 101M.
You are the one not using your brain, rejecting the objective factual data and instead believing in fantasies debunked by those facts.
Many people will upgrade for GTA6 and pretty likely will be the best selling game of the generation by far, not only in PS but in general. GTAV sold a shit ton and even if only a third or a quarter of them go to buy it, it will be a stunning success.
I didn't contradict myself. I just explained that to start declining its hardware sales is just the expected behavior at the current point of any console's life cycle and not any stagnation. At this point, the year after the peak, normally the hardware sales decrease YoY and the software sales (which in the current gen includes game sales, addon sales and game subs) increase YoY.Of course there is. You type all of this fucking word salad and just contradict yourself at every new paragraph.
You say consoles hit their peak and sales slow, then say there's no stagnation, then show a graph showing stagnation which you handwave away then agree there's no stagnation according to nothing
Pick a lane already.
They had a couple of slower years due to coming back to reality after the covid bump, which also combined with the Xbox console dying, Switch being on its intergenerational transition, and mobile having struggled to adapt to the new ads/privacy rules and regulations.
But the gaming industry continues growing every year according IDC, and Newzoo and CESA. That last one highlighted that the game revenue almost doubled in revenue in the last 4 years.
If there's someone here whose mental capabilities aren't enough to accept that information is you. I'm posting the factual data with the receipts and you reject them believing in fantasies instead because of potatoes.
We don't have the data to know if this is the case.
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I got Black Myth Wukong on PC because it looked like the PS5 port was piss poor, and I could get the game for much cheaper with one of those reseller site... Then I added a video card that cost about the same as the PS5 Pro in the PC, that made the PS5 pro option a hard no in the near future.
This is why console exclusives matter.
My PC is plugged on the TV, has 4 xbox controllers on it, many stores, games are much cheaper on this platform as well, and if you don't upgrade too often it can make financial sense.
I really like consoles, they're easy to use and make gaming more gaming focused, but I also like bells and wistles, image quality and what not.
I paid £450 for my pc and slapped in a few upgrades to the tune of £200. I can play fallout 4 ultra 4k. I play it at 1080p because it's smoother with better framerate.
Imagine being this mentally damaged.
I could buy a PS5 every week and it not put a dent in my earnings. That's what happens when you focus on what's important, rather than doing what you're told.
I choose 1080p because I grew up in the 2D era. There's no reason, other than E-dick measuring, to spend money on a 4k pc.
One day, when you're all grown up and your testicles have descended, you too will earn big boy money.
Not exclusive. Additionally, R&C is a 2021 game
Exclusives (unless Sony starts to port even their VR2 games in the future).
Exclusive (for now, Spidey won't be it anymore soon)
Not exclusive, day-and-date on PC
Not 1st party
Really? It's dead and it wasn't exclusive.
Exclusive (for now)
Ironically, you forgot one of the very few remaining exclusives:
Gran Turismo 7
Oh look, another LOLinka post with the same graph!
Please post the specs of your very good £650 PC.
Now I can see I triggered you badly with that off-hand comment. I have no idea what the reference to 'doing what your told' is about. You buy according to your budget and your needs. Your budget/standards are less than other people's, what you've said just makes you sound insecure. Congratulations on being able to afford a PS5 every week though
I grew up watching TV on a 28 inch CRT 480p screen. Maybe I should go on Ebay and see if I can buy one of those
. What you've said there is one of the dumbest and most irrelevant statement I've seen on a gaming forum.Do your own leg work.
I grew up watching TV on a 28 inch CRT 480p screen. Maybe I should go on Ebay and see if I can buy one of those
Nahh that's your previous statement. If you fail to grasp the concept of good enough, then that's on you. I recommend getting yourself checked for autism, you may be afflicted.
Why does this matter to you? games are games bro. You are disregarding great games because they aren't fully exclusive. If you find pleasure in exclusive only games why not just play Nintendo games since it matters to you so much? Then you can happily brag about all the "exclusives" and feel better than everyone else.
Exclusive or not these are still games published by Sony. And a lot of them timed which is an advantage, especially for gamers like me who want in day 1. I was super hyped for SH2 and Ps5 is the only console to play it NOW. Same goes for Rebirth, same goes for Rise of the Ronin, Same goes for Stellar Blade, same goes for Astro Bot. These games eventually going to others systems don't just magically make them unappealing unless you are far too deep in platform wars, so I hardly even understand your argument of thing "not counting"
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I was just correcting him. I played almost all of them
And yes, I care about exclusives because they usually mean a better end product for the customer. Also, a publisher-only Sony wouldn't be the same as a platform-holder Sony in regards to the quality of their games - and this is the way PlayStation is heading, if they don't change course, as can be seen by what is happening with Xbox.
They develop their games for PS5 first unless it's multiplayer. So the same still goes. They don't do ports until after release so your point bears no weight at all. The games I listed aren't even on PC yet barring SH2. Their games still benefit from single platform development. then nixxes comes in to do the port. idk the issue.I was just correcting him. I played almost all of them
And yes, I care about exclusives because they usually mean a better end product for the customer. Also, a publisher-only Sony wouldn't be the same as a platform-holder Sony in regards to the quality of their games - and this is the way PlayStation is heading, if they don't change course, as can be seen by what is happening with Xbox.
Also what's up with you guys comparing them to Xbox? They would essentially need to be a completely worthless publisher over 2 whole generations to earn that comparison. Their games are more gen sure.... but aren't lacking in quality.