Sony forecasted 18 million units for the fiscal year

[Exicide]

We didn’t know it was an anthology series did we? People very much expected a sequel to Ghost. It’s not even doing what RDR2 did which was a prequel/sequel that was tied directly to the first.

It’s just another game in Japan that happens to also have Ghost in the title.

It is set in the same universe, it's an anthology, it is many years after the events of Tsushima though, so Jin by then is dead. We have no idea if it is or isn't tied to Tsushima. If it is, that's cool, maybe the main character is a descendant of Jin's or something. I heavily doubt it of course but we never know.

 

[mibu no ookami]

We didn’t know it was an anthology series did we? People very much expected a sequel to Ghost. It’s not even doing what RDR2 did which was a prequel/sequel that was tied directly to the first.

It’s just another game in Japan that happens to also have Ghost in the title.

Another game set in Japan made by the same developers tied together by similar gameplay structure...

There was a lot of discussion on what a sequel would look like. Many pointed out that the second invasion was much smaller than the first. A lot of people at the time also said Jin was boring.

Why the revisionist history?

 

[mibu no ookami]

The more I look into it, it seems like Sony probably didn't prepare for the demand of Wukong in China, which fair enough, I don't think anyone could have ascertained just how well it would do.

I think their first response was to reallocate stock meant for Japan to China and part of the reason why the PS5 price increased in Japan to deter scalping. Sony probably missed out on millions of unit sales due to lack of availability in China. It's one thing to reroute stock intended for certain locations, but you're not going to repackage and repurpose already shipped units. Wukong came out in late August, so Sony hasn't had much time to correct this issue.

It's going to be so interesting to see just how many units have sold due to Wukong, but we'll always be left to wonder how many could have sold.

You look at stock levels outside of Japan and they're entirely healthy. There are no major drivers for sales this holiday for PS5 in the West.

It's actually a big deal that stock levels return to normal in Japan ahead of Monster Hunter Wilds in February and that game may be pretty key in Sony hitting its forecasts as well.

Sony should begin shipping fewer units in the West and more in Asia.

 

[BillyZ]

It's actually a big deal that stock levels return to normal in Japan ahead of Monster Hunter Wilds in February and that game may be pretty key in Sony hitting its forecasts as well.

Sony should begin shipping fewer units in the West and more in Asia.

No one cares they're all waiting for the Switch 2 port. PlayStation is dead and buried in Japan

 

[CrackmanNL]

No one cares they're all waiting for the Switch 2 port. PlayStation is dead and buried in Japan

No one as in Monster Hunter fans, Worlds was the first PS4 title to break 1 million in Japan. I expect the same to happen for the PS5 since they are currently outpacing the 4 there.

MH is gonna help and boost the PS5 sales regardless for the last fiscal.

 

[BillyZ]

No one as in Monster Hunter fans, Worlds was the first PS4 title to break 1 million in Japan. I expect the same to happen for the PS5 since they are currently outpacing the 4 there.

MH is gonna help and boost the PS5 sales regardless for the last fiscal.

1) PS5 sales in Japan are fake, a significant amount was exported for profit
2) Even if you don't want to believe it with the recent price increase sales are dead
3) Doesn't matter what happened in the past, as soon as the Switch 2 is announced I'm sure Capcom will confirm a port of Monster Hunter and that's where everyone in Japan will buy it.

 

[CrackmanNL]

1) PS5 sales in Japan are fake, a significant amount was exported for profit
2) Even if you don't want to believe it with the recent price increase sales are dead
3) Doesn't matter what happened in the past, as soon as the Switch 2 is announced I'm sure Capcom will confirm a port of Monster Hunter and that's where everyone in Japan will buy it.

So what's your angle. You are talking specific about Japan sales for the fiscal results, that needs to carry it to reach their goal? Strange.

So sales are fake, and yes price hike is not going to do any favour. So you are saying Monster Hunter is not going to help sell PS5's or do well on the platform? When the last main one was carried by PS4?

3) Doesn't matter what happened in the past, as soon as the Switch 2 is announced

You know what I find funny by you. You are one of those that pick and choose. ''Doesn't matter what happened in the past''. But you are guaranteeing the Switch 2 is going to be a massive success. Ironic. If we want to go on by the past with your standards I could say the Switch 2 is going to bomb like the Wii U did coming off the Wii. We know nothing about price, release date and how it's going to perform.

Capcom will confirm a port of Monster Hunter

Speaking off confirmation in their investor meeting they confirmed they will maximise the tech on the title with the consoles and PC when asked if there would be a portable versions.

 

[Vertigo]

Sony split their shares last week. Didn’t expect that. I made some moves just because once I noticed.

 

[mibu no ookami]

So what's your angle. You are talking specific about Japan sales for the fiscal results, that needs to carry it to reach their goal? Strange.

So sales are fake, and yes price hike is not going to do any favour. So you are saying Monster Hunter is not going to help sell PS5's or do well on the platform? When the last main one was carried by PS4?

His angle is being a fanboy and a troll. It's literally all he does here.

Monster Hunter Wilds is very likely to launch on Switch 2 or release soon after, but I'm not certain people are actively going to wait for it. It'll be very interesting to see how well it even performs on Switch 2 or how the Switch 2 will perform.

Handhelds have always done well in Japan, but this is pegged to be the most expensive handheld of all time.

You know what I find funny by you. You are one of those that pick and choose. ''Doesn't matter what happened in the past''. But you are guaranteeing the Switch 2 is going to be a massive success. Ironic. If we want to go on by the past with your standards I could say the Switch 2 is going to bomb like the Wii U did coming off the Wii. We know nothing about price, release date and how it's going to perform.

Exactly. The Switch 2 is likely to perform well, but there are some fundamental concerns it needs to resolve in order to do so.

I think as soon as we see official specs on the Switch 2, we're going to start hearing about Sony's handheld. Having actual competition is going to be a a huge dynamic shift for a more expensive Switch 2.

I think we can assume Switch 2 will come out March/April time frame. I don't think they can go another full year without releasing it.

At the same time it'll be interesting if Nintendo sensing that Microsoft's days are numbered puts out a SKU that competes directly with the PS5 in addition to their handheld oriented SKU. We're in an interesting time in the industry. First real shakeup since the Wii and 360.

Speaking off confirmation in their investor meeting they confirmed they will maximise the tech on the title with the consoles and PC when asked if there would be a portable versions.

I think we can assume the Switch 2 will be around as powerful as the Xbox Series S when utilizing DLSS.

If the switch 2 somehow comes out without AI upscaling, it's game over for it long term. I also wonder what if any games it could actually launch with. No chance of a Zelda and very little chance of a Mario.

Probably Mario Kart 9 and the next Pokemon games. Not sure that is enough at a high price. Nintendo is in an interesting situation.

 

[Vertigo]

Why would you expect Wilds on Switch 2? Doesn’t seem reasonable.

 

[mibu no ookami]

Why would you expect Wilds on Switch 2? Doesn’t seem reasonable.

It's hitting the Series S, don't think it is unreasonable to believe it might hit Switch 2.

 

[CrackmanNL]

If the switch 2 somehow comes out without AI upscaling, it's game over for it long term. I also wonder what if any games it could actually launch with. No chance of a Zelda and very little chance of a Mario.

Moore's Law is Dead leaked that DLSS is confirmed for it but not mandatory. It's definitely going to launch with main-line Mario it has been over 7 years for that team since Odyssey. Whether it will be cross-gen will be interesting, cause the Pokemon leaks confirmed theirs will be, with Metroid 4 and MK9 it's already a solid launch year. Devs said not to expect Switch 2 to come before April, If it comes out during the holiday it will go up against GTA6. It will probably be at PS5 digital price so interesting to see how it all unfolds next year.

Regarding Wilds yeah not sure, cause Capcom has two teams one makes explicit for portables and they are probably helping out with the console versions currently. Will they continue their strategy like Worlds and Rise is the question, which I would say yes but wouldn't count it out being ported.
Only info from the investors meeting is that they maximising what's currently available on the questions about handheld versions.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Sony split their shares last week. Didn’t expect that. I made some moves just because once I noticed.

Any significance in that?

Moore's Law is Dead leaked that DLSS is confirmed for it but not mandatory. It's definitely going to launch with main-line Mario it has been over 7 years for that team since Odyssey. Whether it will be cross-gen will be interesting, cause the Pokemon leaks confirmed theirs will be, with Metroid 4 and MK9 it's already a solid launch year. Devs said not to expect Switch 2 to come before April, If it comes out during the holiday it will go up against GTA6. It will probably be at PS5 digital price so interesting to see how it all unfolds next year.

Yeah the new Metroid they showed will likely be a Day 1 or launch window 1P release, alongside the next mainline Mario game (Odyssey released in 2017). They could also have remakes for a game or two at launch, and I'd expect at least 1-2 3P exclusives as well.

As for release window, I am still betting on either March or April, since they correlate to the close and opening of fiscal years, respectively.