Switching from one console to another is one thing but switching from console to a gaming PC isn't common among the casual market. Besides, crossplay is a thing these days, so even if your hardcore friends switch to PC, there's no reason for you to do it, if all you want is to play COD and Fifa with them.
Sony has generated approximately $700 million from PC ports & releases on other platforms for the last fiscal year
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Switching from one console to another is one thing but switching from console to a gaming PC isn't common among the casual market. Besides, crossplay is a thing these days, so even if your hardcore friends switch to PC, there's no reason for you to do it, if all you want is to play COD and Fifa with them.
I’ve said this point a trillion times and these disingenuous retards choose to ignore it because their entire “argument” falls apart. That’s why it’s impossible to have a real conversation with these idiots. The money was never in 1st party games, choosing to grow through that over what makes 99% of the income is objectively bad business and it’s already starting to backfire on them. If that’s where the money was at, Valve wouldn’t release 1 game per decade
PC isn't the only place where people could switch to. Without exclusives, core gamers might go Nintendo only the next time, if the technical differences start reducing (in case the rumors of a hybrid PS6 are true). Hell, people could switch to a possible Xbox handheld if it's really just a Xbox labeled Windows portable able to play anything on PC decently enough, including PS games.
They judge peoples behavior in the short term but even before their strategy has been completely unfolded you can already see many people jumping ship (as of now mostly enthusiast as they will always be the first to react). The uninformed consumer will also jump ship in due when he finds out he'll be able just buy a PC in console like form factor running SteamOS or a game specific windows distribution and enjoy more games, free online, free cloud saved, better prices (not to mention stuff like emulation and piracy).I’ve said this point a trillion times and these disingenuous retards choose to ignore it because their entire “argument” falls apart. That’s why it’s impossible to have a real conversation with these idiots. The money was never in 1st party games, choosing to grow through that over what makes 99% of the income is objectively bad business and it’s already starting to backfire on them. If that’s where the money was at, Valve wouldn’t release 1 game per decade
If Sony already lacks the confidence to invest heavily on PlayStation what do people think is going to happen when they have less market share, better and more direct competition (Nintendo, NVidia, Steam, MS), a lot less income from PS+, thin game output, struggling financials (you bet Sony value will tank when investor realize the hole Sony has dug themselves with their recent choices).
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The first post i responded to was talking about casuals switching to PC because of potencial Sony day 1 PC releases.
People switching from PS to Nintendo could happen of course but why would someone with a Playstation switch to Nintendo? Because Sony decided to put its games on PC? Cool but you can't play Sony games on Nintendo.
Moving to a different console makes even less sense in this case, unless you really (not you literally) just want to stick it to Sony or something.
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Once PC is done killing Xbox and PlayStation it'll set their sights on Nintendo. They'll probably emulate and pirate them to death and money for anything buy GaaS will dry completely as the PC environment is not suitable to AAA single player games at all.
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Maybe I wasn't clear with my wording, sorry.
Core gamers, the non-casual FIFA players, could jump to PC AND Nintendo for their exclusives.
Their friends, the casual FIFA player would follow them on Nintendo platforms and/or PC depending on how "accessible" it will be by then.
We are not talking about now or the immediate future, but repercussions will be visible once next-gen starts.
Sure but some people here react as if it's already a done deal and Playstation is dead and yada yada.
A lot can happen. Nintendo could have another Wii U moment, Apple could enter the console market, Cloud streaming could take off and make hardware irrelevant, Microsoft could leave the hardware market, A midrange GPU could cost up to a thousand $ etc.
Switch 2 versions of games like Fifa, Madden, NBA2K, should be very decent this time in comparison to their PS5 versions with all the advantages of being playable on the go, while also being easy to hook up to a TV and carry around when traveling.
A lot of the most noticeable differences between PS4 and PS5 versions of most games comes from the SSD and fast loading and the Switch will have an SSD. The general public is not going to give a shit about 4K vs 1080p or lack of RT.
These doomsday scenarios are unrealistic AF. Specially since Xbox dwindled down. PS users will go to a Nintendo console to play FIFA and COD at 640 x 480? Or worse, the price sensitive PS audience, the one that has not migrated from PS4 to PS5 will build a GAMING RIG that will set them at least 700S USD to play a worse version of FIFA...
This just bothers a specific subset of enthusiasts, 95% the target audience of icon era.
This just bothers a specific subset of enthusiasts, 95% the target audience of icon era.
Like, why would casual Playstation owners who mainly play Fifa and COD go to Nintendo or Xbox? Because God Of War 6 and TLOU 3 are day 1 on PC? Makes 0 sense.
How did we go from "Casual PS players will move to PC" to this? lol.
So you'd prefer people cry afterwards instead of complaining now like Xbots are doing now?
No, their growth in PC is just a fact as proven above.
Short term thinking is to assume they'd be able to continue making SP AAA games exclusive to their console forever when every generation their cost skyrocktes but their price and sales don't. This generation will cost over $300M, which means that to become profitable must sell over 9M copies (something that many of their AAA games don't achieve).
They need more revenue channels, so this is why they are expanding to MP/GaaS, movie/tv adaptations, PC and mobile. Because they need to grow faster than what their console business can grow, even if they are growing at gaming history records.
PS -or SIE- never made 30B in revenue.
Also, we're talking about their PC ports, so their console 3rd party sales, hardware sales, game sub and accesories have nothing to do here.
This is about their 1st party games getting too expensive so need to open to new markets to continue growing and being profitable if they don't want to limit their future 1st party games to around their half a dozen top selling IPs.
For a random user like you may not mean anything.
For a company like them to increase revenue and profit is important, specially when their profitability is being highly affected by loses generated selling hardware due to component prices and because of the costs of recent acquisitions.
PS is SIE's console. PS Studios and Bungie are SIE's publishers.
Yes, and has nothing to do with PC ports because Nintendo makes mobile games, movies or toys but doesn't make PC ports as Sony does.
This is bullshit.
Growth is to generate more revenue and to get more uses than in previous years, and this is what Sony is achieving to expanding to PC and movies (plus mobile in the future).
Profit is to get back more money than you invested, and it's what Sony is very successfully achieving with PC and movies (plus mobile in the future).
And Sony isn't disminishing their PS platform: the PS platform continues growing and achieving record numbers in basically all their KPIs.
And well, 3rd party games on their console being their main business doesn't mean they are the only business they have. Their 1st party games is an important business to them not only for the money they make. But like any business, they have to make sure it's sustainable and profitable, so this is why they are expanding them, because in the long term AAA SP games on a single console won't be sustainable outisde a few topselling titles.
PS is the market leader in consoles and is growing in all areas plus they keep increasing their market share and Xbox is slowly dying, making PS the defacto high end console for the future. Everybody knows this. Except maybe you.
Plus in FY22 SIE was top 20 publisher in PC, and since they increased over 55% YoY their revenue they must be higher in the ranking. And they will continue growing in FY24. So they are becoming a key player in PC too, which are the previous steps of expanding their storefront to PC too (so to also earn money from 3rd party on PC too).
Sony must understand what they need to understand because they are the top gaming company.
Sony is making PC ports for the reasons I said.
Once they become one of the top PC publishers, they'll expand their storefront to PC (including the handheld ones). And pretty likely later will do the same with mobile.
This is true, the average player who basically mostly only plays FIFA/CoD/Fortnite/GTA/etc. on PS will continue doing so, won't care if the Sony games are also available on PC, day one or not.
In addition to this, the percent of console players who also play on PC is a pretty small percentage. And well, Sony has been porting big 1st party games to PC and their console KPI numbers kept growing and breaking records and even their market share increased. Some players are moving to PS, not the opposite.
Their PC strategy isn't causing any negative impact in their console business. If it's causing any impact is positive.
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