The many lies and failure under Jim Ryan leadership

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Ok fine but what about all of the other things that has been done wrong under Jim leadership.
none of those things really bother me that much, besides two things.
Closing down Japan Studios (Thankfully he kept Team Asobi)
and deciding to leave E3 (Which in hindsight for now was the best move due to corona, but hopefully if E3 hits their heyday one day they reconsider)

Under Yamauchi (may he RIP)
Nintendo got super cocky with the Virtual Boy and and N64 which lead to keeping to cartridges and pissing off lots of third party
Calling RPG gamers losers
N64 had insane droughts due to no where near as much third party support
Deciding to say FU to Sony by Partnering with Philips to spite them which made Kutaragi decide to get into the console business

Then Mr. Iwata (May he RIP)
Super Mario Sunshine launched pretty glitchy and had that horrible out sync mouth movement for that one cutscene where you beat mecha bowser
Star Fox adventure despite being a great games clearly was rushed at the end (See the boss fight between you and scales or lack of one and look at the robotic way Falco moves in the ending cutscene lol.)
Pretty much gave up on the Gamecube after 2004 and promoted stuff like Giest over fire emblem
Launched the 3DS at a way too high price and not a lot of compelling software
Then the very next year Launched the Wii U with mostly Shovelware in 2012 and didn't make any third party deals to help bring ports of games like Tomb Raider and Crysis 3 to Wii U in Early 2013 despite the Wii and DS era making them record profits year after year
They didn't even think to expand their internal studios to help in HD game development!

Phil Spencer's first move was to use a bunch of really unfinished stuff to promote Xbox One in E3 2014 such as Project Spark, Scalebound, and Crackdown 3 which wouldn't come out until nearly 5 years later
Then get rid of official numbers of how much Xbox One has sold to not look to bad compared to PS4
Fumbled Xbox after 2016 leaving a weak 2017 that the Xbox One X had nothing to launch with
Sea of Thieves in early 2018 was barebones at launch and got horrible reviews
Shit I don't even remember what else Phil did post 2018 for Xbox One because I stopped using my mine that year besides launching Xbox one SAD (All Digital)
They had no exclusives at launch for Xbox Series Systems
Despite launching 2 systems (Series S and Series X) against PS5 they barely gained any marketshare and most of it is mostly due to Sony running into shortages to a much higher extend than Xbox due to Series S having a smaller chip in it!
Halo still is having content issues nearly a year after launch

So pretty much no matter what CEO you look at, all of them are not perfect and some will be turned off by them but what matters is they satisfy the most customers they can.
 
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This is what is sad about Xbox fans, just because they put up with Phil failures and still stan for him they think the same must be happening on PlayStation.

The truth is that despite Jim Ryan sucking ass he has delivered more quality games in 2 or 3 years than Phil has done over 14 years.

PS5 has had a great start when it comes to games this gen, Xbox had nothing of any value and won't have it for a while.
 

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Jim Ryan, Is the current president of SIE. Ryan succeeded John Kodera as President and CEO of Sony Interactive Entertainment in April 2019.

Let's look at the many lies & negative things that have happened to PlayStation under his leadership:

- PS5 exclusives raise to $70, here in Australia it is $120+ AUD

- Japan Studio closure / But Why Why Why? / Letting Nintendo totally owned the Japanese gaming market..

- Say's "We believe in Generations" Only then to have most of their new Games be Cross-Gen. So Much For the "We believe in Generations"

- Disrespect older Generation of PlayStation Fans & Gamers by saying "PS1 and the PS2 games, they looked ancient, like why would anybody play this?"

- Letting Xbox steal Bethesda and Activision away without even putting up a fight / thus losing ground on the North & South America market

- Legacy PSN Stores closing / Because of outcry they decide to delay the closure for a while longer. But for how long?

- Killzone Franchise dead & gone / No plans of ever making another again, What a damn shame...

- Days Gone 2 denied / instead to make another full priced remaster/remake for the 3rd time LOL

- Web store gets downgraded badly, with missing features still not added back

- Game patches starting to disappear due to legacy stores closure / closing soon..

- Currently killing any hope of long time loyal PlayStation fans for full backward compatibility support despite according to two patents they are working on solutions.

- Turned down legendary game developer Hideo Kojima's next game (allegedly) thus Kojima now working with Xbox on a Exclusive game

- Closing the Video/Movie rental store DESPITE LITERALLY just starting a new video service on their new bravia TV's.

- Signing terrible deal with Aspyr for a 'KOTOR Remake' only then for the game to be delayed indefinitely, or worst might never even see the light of day...

Under this mad man 'egomaniac' leadership, I can't think of a single good thing that he has accomplish. I've never seen a company leader pull off such levels of self-absorbing sabotage before. It's as if this man has no idea what made the PlayStation brand the household global name that it is today.

Hell there isn't even a reason to NOT do full backwards compatibility at this point, instead we need to stream PS3 games.
More on backwards compatibility for past generations of PlayStation games. I keep hearing "can't be done due to it being different architecture". That there is another falsehood in itself. RPCS3 runs on x86. And to add insult to injury, those backwards compatibility patents i mention earlier started showing up AFTER Sony hired some of the RPCS3 programmers.

In conclusion; Jim Ryan needs to go, There is even a Petition to "Remove Jim Ryan as Ceo of PlayStation"

You should add the financials because thats what matters most. Higher prices on games can change, but what you make with strategic moves to PC, investing in premium quality titles has shown its working.

Playstation made more last year than its ever done in history of playstation. And if things shake out the rest of fiscal year they will be on track to be the biggest gaming revenue generator in history.
 
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Why not ask the dude who made the claim in the first place? It's a huge mystery indeed :unsure:
Because his statement made sense. In terms of console market share, they are in the last position.
  1. PS = ~120 million
  2. Nintendo = 108 million
  3. Xbox = 50-60 million
In terms of new consoles in this generation, they are again in the last position.
  1. PS = 21 million+
  2. Xbox = 10-15 million
In terms of revenue, Xbox is in the last position.
  1. PS = ~25 billionn
  2. Xbox = ~15 billion (and that is after aggressively merging revenue from acquired companies)
And Xbox hides its profits. Besides, it is easier to believe that they don't make profits because (1) MS itself has said that they have never made profits on hardware, (2) they are constantly behind in terms of third-party software sales market share, and (3) their first-party games almost never chart either.

So if you're claiming otherwise, you need to bring receipts.
 

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OP, lots of what you said is not factual.

Actually Jim is the best Leader Sony gaming ever had. He is growing Sony's Gaming Division, expanding PS gaming so PC guys can get into the eco-system. He has launched PS Plus Premium which is offering the best value and quality in content and streaming. He is the only one out of the three bosses that has landed exclusives that look and play like next gen games.

The sad reality, is that stigmas attach sometimes, negative or positive. So people started the "good guy phil move" and it stuck and some people started the "Jim is mad" move and it stuck. No one can justify either. The only way to judge a leader is by results. Jim is killing it, the production issues for PS5 is beyond his control, but it's clear that many want to be on Jim's PS5 train, as per demand. He has given us Returnal, Stray, Sifu and so many unique games so far. He's given us a GT the earliest we've ever seen it since GT3. Jim has secured so many third party exclusives too and has secured some key development studios that would fall right into place at PS Studios.

He just launched the backbone one, so you can play your PS games on mobile much better or easier. Jim is not some stagnant CEO, that's playing it safe and to his chest. He is taking risks and making bold moves to expand gaming. Not just relying on the old formula that has shown no appreciable growth in the console business relative to installbases and software numbers. He is about to launch Goty of 2022 in Ragnarok and VR2 is coming swiftly. Jim is on 🔥......
 
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OP, lots of what you said is not factual.

Actually Jim is the best Leader Sony gaming ever had. He is growing Sony's Gaming Division, expanding PS gaming so PC guys can get into the eco-system. He has launched PS Plus Premium which is offering the best value and quality in content and streaming. He is the only one out of the three bosses that has landed exclusives that look and play like next gen games.

The sad reality, is that stigmas attach sometimes, negative or positive. So people started the "good guy phil move" and it stuck and some people started the "Jim is mad" move and it stuck. No one can justify either. The only way to judge a leader is by results. Jim is killing it, the production issues for PS5 is beyond his control, but it's clear that many want to be on Jim's PS5 train, as per demand. He has given us Returnal, Stray, Sifu and so many unique games so far. He's given us a GT the earliest we've ever seen it since GT3. Phil has secured so many third party exclusives too and has secured some key development studios that would fall right into place at PS Studios.

He just launched the backbone one, so you can play your PS games on mobile much better or easier. Phil is not some stagnant CEO, that's playing it safe and to his chest. He is taking risks and making bold moves to expand gaming. Not just relying on the old formula that has shown no appreciable growth in the console business relative to installbases and software numbers. He is about to launch Goty of 2022 in Ragnarok and VR2 is coming swiftly. Jim is on 🔥......
Jimbo also doesn't seem to care that much about going on PR tours to pose as the savior of gaming or the lead of some weird cult. He is a suit concerned about making Sony money, fair enough as long as that results in good games for us.

I think his biggest mistake so far was trying to hide that some already announced games were crossgen, that was ridiculous.
 
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OP, lots of what you said is not factual.

Actually Jim is the best Leader Sony gaming ever had. He is growing Sony's Gaming Division, expanding PS gaming so PC guys can get into the eco-system. He has launched PS Plus Premium which is offering the best value and quality in content and streaming. He is the only one out of the three bosses that has landed exclusives that look and play like next gen games.

The sad reality, is that stigmas attach sometimes, negative or positive. So people started the "good guy phil move" and it stuck and some people started the "Jim is mad" move and it stuck. No one can justify either. The only way to judge a leader is by results. Jim is killing it, the production issues for PS5 is beyond his control, but it's clear that many want to be on Jim's PS5 train, as per demand. He has given us Returnal, Stray, Sifu and so many unique games so far. He's given us a GT the earliest we've ever seen it since GT3. Phil has secured so many third party exclusives too and has secured some key development studios that would fall right into place at PS Studios.

He just launched the backbone one, so you can play your PS games on mobile much better or easier. Phil is not some stagnant CEO, that's playing it safe and to his chest. He is taking risks and making bold moves to expand gaming. Not just relying on the old formula that has shown no appreciable growth in the console business relative to installbases and software numbers. He is about to launch Goty of 2022 in Ragnarok and VR2 is coming swiftly. Jim is on 🔥......

100% ^This, I think the disconnect for people is Jimbo is a Exec/SALES guy for products. He knows how to make money and sell a brand. The moves he is making literally has helped Sony make the most profits even during a chip shortage, covid, and now a recession.

God of war alone on PC has generated them a nice cool couple million, and games like Spiderman this summer is going to sell bananas on PC. I see them making anywhere from 200M-500m easy by sometime Spring of next year.
Inzone stuff will be I think word of mouth on which headsets are worth it, same with Monitors. But still money is money.

PSVR could have died, but they invested even more into it, and with Facebook failing, I think PSVR2 is poised to be the preferred premium place to play VR.
He may be tone def on things like classic gaming. But now we have a dedicated team literally for preservation of Playstation legacy. The guy listens to feedback 100%.

Look at how fast shit changes? Like the Vita/PS3 store incident. VRR, 1440p ect. It's not like that took years after people complained. Shit gets changed fast. PS PREMIUM had issues with store pricing, and in some countries the PAL versions ran like ass on 50hz. Sony literally made the change less then a couple weeks to a month to improve it.

While Nintendo still has done all but dick to any of their legacy titles, let alone spent money on improving things.
 

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I think his biggest mistake so far was trying to hide that some already announced games were crossgen, that was ridiculous.
What I heard about that was some of these games did start PS5 only, but with PS5 production issues and so many PS4's out there. Do you deny these people a GT or Horizon and lose all that money for an install base that's not quite as large...... Crossgen or not. Forbidden West is still one of the best looking games released so far and GT7 looks so much better than Forza 8 which is next gen only. If we listen to Cerny, the real next gen games will start to land in the year 2023, that would be, after Ragnarok.

Yet, in the here and now, Sony's crossgen looks miles better than MS's next gen. So when Naughty brings the goods for their next gen project or Bend or Spiderman 2, Tsushima 2 etc... Then we will see what PS5 is capable of. Even now, their crossgen games are leading the pack in graphics, just speaks volumes about their talent and quality. PS4 was a beast for sure.
 

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They didn't close it, restructured it after decades of unprofitable games including some money pits and many bad rated games. Japan Studio got rebranded and its 2nd party publishing team got branched off into its own studio as they did before in EU and USA. In additon to these 2 Sony has multiple internal Japanese studios more.


In that interview he said they were going to continue supporting PS4 for several years. He never said there or anywhere else that they weren't going to make crossgen games.




Sony never received a Days Gone 2 pitch from Bend. The one who rejected it was the boss inside Bend studio, who didn't want to make a sequel but to make a new IP. The only pitch Sony got from Bend after DG was the new IP and approved it. Bend didn't work in the TLOU remake, between the new IP and DG they did help on the TLOU MP game and an Uncharted spinoff that we don't know if still exists or no.


Which ones?


Which ones?


It's the opposite: he added the PS1 and PSP emulators and are expanding their team to improve their emulators and to make new emulators.


Not true. They are working on Death Stranding 2. Absolutely nothing says Sony turned down any project.


Jimbo runs SIE, the gaming part. Not Sony Pictures.


The Star Wars deal with with Lucasarts, who owns the IP. Sony will only publish it on PS. In any case, the boss of PS Studios is Hermen, not Jimbo.


It's the opposite. Their exclusives sell better than ever, are better reviewed than ever, win more awrds than ever, the game division makes more money than ever, broke many gaming industry history records for any console maker including fastest selling console (until hit by chip shortages), bigger active userbase, PSN MAUs, engagement, amount of games sold for a console, games sold per console, and bought more studios than ever and grew more the existing 1st party teams headcount than ever.


The dev of RPCS3 and Sony engine programmer for PS3/Insomniac both said it's impossible to properly emulate PS3 in PS4 or PS5.


Nonsense. He's the most successful CEO of a console maker in gaming history.
My god you destroyed him.
 

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Overall I don’t like alot of the direction they are going.

Jim kinda sucks.

Especially with the PC route.
Japan studios
Lack of 1st party and 3rd party exclusive game announcements/showings

Happy with the games we got these last 2 years but theres alot wrong going on and it started before Jim was in charge, but its kinda got worse.
I also don’t think Hermen knows what he is doing, the guy had his PS5 upside down lol
 

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What I heard about that was some of these games did start PS5 only, but with PS5 production issues and so many PS4's out there. Do you deny these people a GT or Horizon and lose all that money for an install base that's not quite as large...... Crossgen or not. Forbidden West is still one of the best looking games released so far and GT7 looks so much better than Forza 8 which is next gen only. If we listen to Cerny, the real next gen games will start to land in the year 2023, that would be, after Ragnarok.

Yet, in the here and now, Sony's crossgen looks miles better than MS's next gen. So when Naughty brings the goods for their next gen project or Bend or Spiderman 2, Tsushima 2 etc... Then we will see what PS5 is capable of. Even now, their crossgen games are leading the pack in graphics, just speaks volumes about their talent and quality. PS4 was a beast for sure.
My read is that they were unsure if they were going to release on PS4 or not and were delaying the call but I don't see how they weren't always PS4 games.
 

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Overall I don’t like alot of the direction they are going.

Jim kinda sucks.

Especially with the PC route.
Japan studios
Lack of 1st party and 3rd party exclusive game announcements/showings

Happy with the games we got these last 2 years but theres alot wrong going on and it started before Jim was in charge, but its kinda got worse.
I also don’t think Hermen knows what he is doing, the guy had his PS5 upside down lol
Lack of third party exclusives? FFVII Rebirth, FFXVI, Forspoken, a bunch of other SE games, come on now, do you want all games to be exclusive to PS?

You probably haven't seen a single game green lit by Hermen yet, the closest thing is probably him changing TLoU Part 1 remake to ND. Dude run Guerrilla and made them a very successful studio, I don't see a reason to assume he will suck.
 
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These threads should be banned from forums. It's a lot of miss information i'm reading and others will pick it up easily and make their own story from it.
Boo Who cry some more, no threads should be banned unless it a personal attack thread lol man up for once Jim Ryan is not paying you.
 
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Why do you guys try to act like the chip shortage isn't a thing and why even mention Japan? They're all handhelds and cell phone games now

The output on the PS5 so far as been incredible
Everyone is dealing with chip shortage, it is not a Playstation only thing. And losing Japan will be Sony biggest mistake mark my words.
Jim is letting all this happen under his watch.
 
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