The many lies and failure under Jim Ryan leadership

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thelastword

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PSVR could have died, but they invested even more into it, and with Facebook failing, I think PSVR2 is poised to be the preferred premium place to play VR.
He may be tone def on things like classic gaming. But now we have a dedicated team literally for preservation of Playstation legacy. The guy listens to feedback 100%.
Great post, but one thing I'd like to focus on is the above. VR2 is looking leaps and bounds better from all indications. From early reports, the devs love the hardware, it's powerful it's easier to work with and set up and Sony is getting much more software support than PSVR1. Also people should realize that many of the optimizations inherent with such hardware would benefit the PS5 development process too, with better gains there, whether it's fps or improved techniques.

One thing I'd like to see and I hope Jim goes all in. PS should be the main catalyst, but they should make the hardware compatible with PC, you need to grow the market rapidly. Lots of other VR pursuits have failed or are failing, yet Sony is the only one that's been pretty successful, especially with software. Open it to PC too, open a storefront there too and properly vet all vr software that goes through. I think they already have halflife VR in the bag and no doubt the Astro Bot guys are already making VR goty. They need to get Dreams VR going and include Playstation Home VR too. People want to berate Jim at every turn, but he is the only one with balls to make the hard decisions, even though it may be un-popular at the time.

I'll tell you this, many of the people berating Jim Ryan right now, will be fellating him by the end of this generation. The guy has balls of steel and he has a vision as to where he wants to take the brand. I'm just so tired of CEO's playing it safe and it all boils back to the same song and dance till they fail. Jim is holding the horns and he is not playing no fake "good guy".
 
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This is what is sad about Xbox fans, just because they put up with Phil failures and still stan for him they think the same must be happening on PlayStation.

The truth is that despite Jim Ryan sucking ass he has delivered more quality games in 2 or 3 years than Phil has done over 14 years.

PS5 has had a great start when it comes to games this gen, Xbox had nothing of any value and won't have it for a while.
This is not about Phil Spencer, i never once mention Phil in my original thread post.
This is all about how Jim Ryan is bad.
 

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Everyone is dealing with chip shortage, it is not a Playstation only thing. And losing Japan will be Sony biggest mistake mark my words.
Jim is letting all this happen under his watch.
Yes, everyone is dealing with chip shortage, but Jim's PS5 is still outselling Xbox by roughly the same ratio (1.3) as it did before with PS4 and Xbox One (1.4) that didn't face nearly the same level of stock shortage.
 
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I don’t follow Jim like this because I don’t idolize executives so I really don’t know or care. 🤷🏻‍♂️
He’s delivering good games, that’s what matters.
All of the games that are coming out from Sony so far, Have already been in the pipeline before Jim came into leadership.
 

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Everyone is dealing with chip shortage, it is not a Playstation only thing. And losing Japan will be Sony biggest mistake mark my words.
Jim is letting all this happen under his watch.
How is Sony losing Japan. Japan has been more mobile centric for a while now. That's the market now. If rumors of a new mobile PS are true, then they can make inroads again like they did with PSP. Also, Nintendo has always dominated mobile, so who is Sony now losing Japan to? Microsoft?
 
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none of those things really bother me that much, besides two things.
Closing down Japan Studios (Thankfully he kept Team Asobi)
and deciding to leave E3 (Which in hindsight for now was the best move due to corona, but hopefully if E3 hits their heyday one day they reconsider)

Under Yamauchi (may he RIP)
Nintendo got super cocky with the Virtual Boy and and N64 which lead to keeping to cartridges and pissing off lots of third party
Calling RPG gamers losers
N64 had insane droughts due to no where near as much third party support
Deciding to say FU to Sony by Partnering with Philips to spite them which made Kutaragi decide to get into the console business

Then Mr. Iwata (May he RIP)
Super Mario Sunshine launched pretty glitchy and had that horrible out sync mouth movement for that one cutscene where you beat mecha bowser
Star Fox adventure despite being a great games clearly was rushed at the end (See the boss fight between you and scales or lack of one and look at the robotic way Falco moves in the ending cutscene lol.)
Pretty much gave up on the Gamecube after 2004 and promoted stuff like Giest over fire emblem
Launched the 3DS at a way too high price and not a lot of compelling software
Then the very next year Launched the Wii U with mostly Shovelware in 2012 and didn't make any third party deals to help bring ports of games like Tomb Raider and Crysis 3 to Wii U in Early 2013 despite the Wii and DS era making them record profits year after year
They didn't even think to expand their internal studios to help in HD game development!

Phil Spencer's first move was to use a bunch of really unfinished stuff to promote Xbox One in E3 2014 such as Project Spark, Scalebound, and Crackdown 3 which wouldn't come out until nearly 5 years later
Then get rid of official numbers of how much Xbox One has sold to not look to bad compared to PS4
Fumbled Xbox after 2016 leaving a weak 2017 that the Xbox One X had nothing to launch with
Sea of Thieves in early 2018 was barebones at launch and got horrible reviews
Shit I don't even remember what else Phil did post 2018 for Xbox One because I stopped using my mine that year besides launching Xbox one SAD (All Digital)
They had no exclusives at launch for Xbox Series Systems
Despite launching 2 systems (Series S and Series X) against PS5 they barely gained any marketshare and most of it is mostly due to Sony running into shortages to a much higher extend than Xbox due to Series S having a smaller chip in it!
Halo still is having content issues nearly a year after launch

So pretty much no matter what CEO you look at, all of them are not perfect and some will be turned off by them but what matters is they satisfy the most customers they can.
I ask for all of the other things that Jimmy has done wrong since he came into power.
Why did you go into talking about other CEO and stuff just answer the question.
 

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This is not about Phil Spencer, i never once mention Phil in my original thread post.
This is all about how Jim Ryan is bad.
It's about whatever people want it to be. Jimbo sucks but he is still miles ahead of someone like Phil Spencer.

To be honest, your take down on Jimbo is just really weak, I could've done a much better job. Most of your points are either sensible decisions or things that don't even have anything to do with him.

The $70 is one of the best move Jimbo pulled, it worked, inflation got crazy and the games keep coming. Who cares that you have to pay $10 more if the game is good? Wouldn't you pay an extra $10 to actually get a good game on Xbox for once?

Would you pay an extra $10 to turn Halo Infinite from a complete embarrassment into an actual good game? Would you pay an extra $10 to ensure Starfield is a banger?
 
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You should add the financials because thats what matters most. Higher prices on games can change, but what you make with strategic moves to PC, investing in premium quality titles has shown its working.

Playstation made more last year than its ever done in history of playstation. And if things shake out the rest of fiscal year they will be on track to be the biggest gaming revenue generator in history.
Great so you're gone to ignore everything else that Jimbo has done wrong?
 
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It's about whatever people want it to be. Jimbo sucks but he is still miles ahead of someone like Phil Spencer.

To be honest, your take down on Jimbo is just really weak, I could've done a much better job. Most of your points are either sensible decisions or things that don't even have anything to do with him.

The $70 is one of the best move Jimbo pulled, it worked, inflation got crazy and the games keep coming. Who cares that you have to pay $10 more if the game is good? Wouldn't you pay an extra $10 to actually get a good game on Xbox for once?

Would you pay an extra $10 to turn Halo Infinite from a complete embarrassment into an actual good game? Would you pay an extra $10 to ensure Starfield is a banger?
Again comparing Jimbo to Phil why why why?
But since your comparing alright let do it.
Jim is bad for Playstation while Phil is good for Xbox, Under Phil leadership Xbox is coming back with a bang all while Jim is letting it happen.. and is losing market share.
 

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That's what sucks about talking this stuff with Xbox fans, they assume everything is comparable. The truth is that the product you love so much sucks (and you know it), mostly because the guy that you stan for sucks even more. Everything you guys hoped for and predicted didn't go your way (like always).

No amount of spinning will change that and everybody can admit it, except for you. There is no need to lie, spin or overhype things when it comes to PlayStation, it has constantly been proved far superior over two decades already. You know what will be happening in 5 years? You'll still be coming up with excuses to explain how things didn't work out.

Jimbo sucks, probably, so what? Hardly anyone here can remember the name of the guy that occupied his position before him. PlayStation is a lot bigger than him but is Xbox bigger than Phil Spencer?

You can keep pretending you love CoD, Fallout 76 and Diablo Immoral but when you look up in the mirror there is no one for you to lie to except for yourself.
 

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Lack of third party exclusives? FFVII Rebirth, FFXVI, Forspoken, a bunch of other SE games, come on now, do you want all games to be exclusive to PS?

You probably haven't seen a single game green lit by Hermen yet, the closest thing is probably him changing TLoU Part 1 remake to ND. Dude run Guerrilla and made them a very successful studio, I don't see a reason to assume he will suck.

Yeah we got told about FF15, Forspoken almost 2 years ago now. And FF7rebirth was a given considering FF7Remake.
I want some games outside of Square to be exclusive lol and not from 2020 news.

No Miyazaki exclusive ( Demon Souls, Bloodborne etc )
No Team Ninja Exclusive like Nioh ( Wo Long fallen Dynasty a multiplat )
No Quantic Dream exclusive. Bought out
Persona and Yakuza all gone multiplat. No news about Persona 6 or their rumour new Medievil Fantasy IP.
Kojima making a game for Xbox
No Supermassive exclusive, also making games multi platform etc

All these studios were making exclusive/console exclusive games for Playstation last gen. So a few square enix games doesn’t cut it.

When it comes to 1st Party, outisde of TLOU Remake, Factions 2, Spiderman 2 and Wolverine we know nothing about these ”20” studios making games. We’ve only seen 1 of them running gameplay (TLOURemake)

We’re only close to 2 years into this gen and I can’t remember how many annoucements we got about PS4 at this time, but I feel its lacking compared to PS4. I could be wrong. But considering how Sony has done its shows in the last few years, we’re not gonna get a a bunch of exclusive games announced anytime soon
 
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Everyone is dealing with chip shortage, it is not a Playstation only thing. And losing Japan will be Sony biggest mistake mark my words.
Jim is letting all this happen under his watch.
Chip shortages effects depend on demand.
PS5 is by far the biggest affected by it.

Actually I believe it is the only console facing shortages right now.

If demand of PS5 was like Xbox demand then Sony should not faced any shortage this generation.
 
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Yeah we got told about FF15, Forspoken almost 2 years ago now. And FF7rebirth was a given considering FF7Remake.
I want some games outside of Square to be exclusive lol and not from 2020 news.

No Miyazaki exclusive ( Demon Souls, Bloodborne etc )
No Team Ninja Exclusive like Nioh ( Wo Long fallen Dynasty a multiplat )
No Quantic Dream exclusive. Bought out
Persona and Yakuza all gone multiplat. No news about Persona 6 or their rumour new Medievil Fantasy IP.
Kojima making a game for Xbox
No Supermassive exclusive, also making games multi platform etc

All these studios were making exclusive/console exclusive games for Playstation last gen. So a few square enix games doesn’t cut it.

When it comes to 1st Party, outisde of TLOU Remake, Factions 2, Spiderman 2 and Wolverine we know nothing about these ”20” studios making games. We’ve only seen 1 of them running gameplay (TLOURemake)

We’re only close to 2 years into this gen and I can’t remember how many annoucements we got about PS4 at this time, but I feel its lacking compared to PS4. I could be wrong. But considering how Sony has done its shows in the last few years, we’re not gonna get a a bunch of exclusive games announced anytime soon
I don't care at all, doesn't make any difference to me and I'm excited for what has already been announced.

You think the other internal studios that haven't announced games aren't working on anything? Sony has no incentive to hype anything at this point when they are limited by shortages, it makes sense that they are taking their time to announce stuff, their direct competitor had nothing in this period and blew their load when it comes to future announcements.
 
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This is PlayStation we are talking about, the premier pinnacle of all things gaming. Not some half-baked throw cash at it and give away free subs service.
Pinnacle my ass, Nintendo is destroying your precious PlayStation in Japan wile Xbox will destroy Playstation in North America and PC will do the rest while getting all the PlayStation so call exclusive lol

Checkmate.... all happening under Jim Ryan watch by the way.
 
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Yeah we got told about FF15, Forspoken almost 2 years ago now. And FF7rebirth was a given considering FF7Remake.
I want some games outside of Square to be exclusive lol and not from 2020 news.

No Miyazaki exclusive ( Demon Souls, Bloodborne etc )
No Team Ninja Exclusive like Nioh ( Wo Long fallen Dynasty a multiplat )
No Quantic Dream exclusive. Bought out
Persona and Yakuza all gone multiplat. No news about Persona 6 or their rumour new Medievil Fantasy IP.
Kojima making a game for Xbox
No Supermassive exclusive, also making games multi platform etc

All these studios were making exclusive/console exclusive games for Playstation last gen. So a few square enix games doesn’t cut it.

When it comes to 1st Party, outisde of TLOU Remake, Factions 2, Spiderman 2 and Wolverine we know nothing about these ”20” studios making games. We’ve only seen 1 of them running gameplay (TLOURemake)

We’re only close to 2 years into this gen and I can’t remember how many annoucements we got about PS4 at this time, but I feel its lacking compared to PS4. I could be wrong. But considering how Sony has done its shows in the last few years, we’re not gonna get a a bunch of exclusive games announced anytime soon
yep, 100% agree with your last statement.

It's so boring not seeing what new games they have up their sleeves.

i want to see content, this piss drip feed really needs to stop.
 

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I don't care at all, doesn't make any difference to me and I'm excited for what has already been announced.

Lol ok. How can you not care at all about lack of games coming but also be excited about a smaller amount of games coming, makes no sense.

I care though, Playstation’s lack of exclusives and developers not making exclusice games for them is not great.
 
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