This FUD campaign of trying to stop AAA Blockbuster games from Sony from Microsoft Backed Media is fucking Scary

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Sony pushing AAA blockbusters at the possible expense of smaller AA non-Hollywood'ish games isn't exactly a full-on controversial take or one inherently in bad faith. I've been wanting Sony to expand back out to AA titles as well, and leverage legacy IP more efficiently in that space (since for a lot of that IP, AA would be the best-suited space for them to proliferate). Having some non-Western variety 1P-wise would be great as well; while games like Rise of the Ronin are looking great, I think even more uniqueness could be possible and would be welcomed.

However, I 100% don't think Sony have to stop with the massive blockbuster titles in order to do this. They need the Spiderman 2s, the GOW Ragnaroks, the Horizon Forbidden Wests, etc. People love those games and they are the big-ticket sellers that help PS consoles sell, and help with the brand perception among gamers. It's not Sony's fault Microsoft can't seem to make those types of games in-house or from the ground-up. But if Sony want to expand out into more experimental 1P titles, they can, and AA is a great means to do that without impacting the AAA stuff (a lot of which still take many risks in their own right; just because they're mainstream and AAA doesn't mean they aren't creative).

Don't get why some of these people have to make it an either/or situation. We can have both types.
 

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All these games still exist on the indie side. There are tons and tons of them. Why people need Sony specifically to do them?

If Sony Japan was still active they would 100% ignore all their output and not even count them in their list wars (like they do for GT7, MLB, Destiny and PSVR) but now they have an angle.

Lemme fake cry and make an article about it so all the haters can shit on Sony 🙄
 
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All these games still exist on the indie side. There are tons and tons of them. Why people need Sony specifically to do them?

If Sony Japan was still active they would 100% ignore all their output and not even count them in their list wars (like they do for GT7, MLB, Destiny and PSVR) but now they have an angle.

Lemme fake cry and make an article about it so all the haters can shit on Sony 🙄
Exactly. Just like they don't count:
  • Sackboy,
  • Predators Hunting Ground,
  • Dreams,
  • Destruction All Stars, and
  • Concrete Genie.
 

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Theres plenty of AA and indy releases each month on PSN, dont fall for propaganda from Xbox fanboy media. That is the sad part in all of this.

I dont see plenty of smaller games from PlayStation studios… Lol its not just xbox fanboy media. PS Studios is not releasing these anymore. I miss them.

They are incorrect about Blockbuster games that Sony does best, they are correct about PS not making the smaller games anymore
 
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All these games still exist on the indie side. There are tons and tons of them. Why people need Sony specifically to do them?

Because Sony did a great job of them. I loved Japan Studio games and the smaller games Santa Monica published during the PS3 days. Or House Marque’s smaller games.

3rd party indies are great but Why cant Sony have a mix like they use to
 

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Exactly. Just like they don't count:
  • Sackboy,
  • Predators Hunting Ground,
  • Dreams,
  • Destruction All Stars, and
  • Concrete Genie.

Ill take Concreate Genie and Dream again easily.
There hasnt been that many this gen though since 2021 and TBH Destruction all Stars wasnt great
 

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If all these fuckers who just talk about Gravity Rush all day long had actually brought the games it wouldn't be a dead series right now.
But the same could be said about Demons Souls. But they still make “sequels”
Not every game needs to sell 5+ million. I bought it on vita and PS4 Too
 
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Ill take Concreate Genie and Dream again easily.
There hasnt been that many this gen though since 2021 and TBH Destruction all Stars wasnt great
You still have to count it, even if it wasn't great. That's the risk with AA games.

Sony released Sackboy in 2020.
Destruction All Stars in 2021. Also, helped with Kena and Stray.
Horizon COTM and Firewall Ultra in 2023.
Lost Souls Aside, Stellar Blade, and Convallaria, are so far scheduled for 2024.
 

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But the same could be said about Demons Souls. But they still make “sequels”
Not every game needs to sell 5+ million. I bought it on vita and PS4 Too
Demon's Souls might have not been a huge hit but A) people don't actually mention it all that often these days whereas the bitching about Gravity Rush is constant and B) Fromsoft's current output is all big sellers, even "lesser" successes like ACVI.
 
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You still have to count it, even if it wasn't great. That's the risk with AA games.

Sony released Sackboy in 2020.
Destruction All Stars in 2021. Also, helped with Kena and Stray.
Im counting it, Im not that much of a butthead Lol

Horizon COTM and Firewall Ultra in 2023.
Lost Souls Aside, Stellar Blade, and Convallaria, are so far scheduled for 2024.
VR and Non PS studio titles though.

I dont know, seems alot you guys dont care about Japan Studio, smaller games from PS studios or actual PS studio games in 2024
 
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There are more indie like games on PS consoles than on Xbox consoles, in any given generation, except for the ps360 one.

Not necessarily made by Sony, but even then... WTF.

The only reason hifi rush got any attention os because the Xbox CEO gave it time in a conference, then the shills just kept yapping about it. There are tons of niche games, that play really well and have style all over the place.

Also, I hope MS didn't spend 100 Billion $ to have these giant studios release a ton of indie games, they didn't need to do it like that.

So i have no clue what this person is talking about.
 

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I dont see plenty of smaller games from PlayStation studios… Lol its not just xbox fanboy media. PS Studios is not releasing these anymore. I miss them.

They are incorrect about Blockbuster games that Sony does best, they are correct about PS not making the Funny thing is they called the PS4 indystation because of all the indies Sony published. Yall really need to stop reading media from Microsoft shills, they always double down on things they feel Xbox has an upper hand on no matter what it is. PS5 actually gets more undies but you follow the Xbox fanboy narrative that those dont count because it's not 1st party.
 
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Im counting it, Im not that much of a butthead Lol


VR and Non PS studio titles though.

I dont know, seems alot you guys dont care about Japan Studio, smaller games from PS studios or actual PS studio games in 2024
Those are PS Studios titles, though. They are published by Sony and xDev works on these games.

Japan Studios wasn't doing anything, so they had to be cut. It's unfortunate, but it's their own doing. Only Team Asobi within Japan Studios was doing something: made Astrobot VR, helped with DualSense, released Astrobot for the PS5 launch.

During that period, the rest of the Japan Studios (~300 people) didn't release anything.
 
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The gaming media is so fucking out of touch with what consumers want

I don’t understand why this is being taken as some off-base, looney take. I certainly want more Japanese games, I absolutely want new IPs, and you bet your ass I want experimental games.

What consumers are you referencing? Spider-Man is such a safe title to release 4 times with talks of a 5th. That’s a far cry from PlayStation even a gen or two ago. No one is saying they need to constantly give us new golden eras, but anyone paying attention can see they’re playing it safe. If they tread too lightly things could get a little boring.
 

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I don’t understand why this is being taken as some off-base, looney take. I certainly want more Japanese games, I absolutely want new IPs, and you bet your ass I want experimental games.

What consumers are you referencing? Spider-Man is such a safe title to release 4 times with talks of a 5th. That’s a far cry from PlayStation even a gen or two ago. No one is saying they need to constantly give us new golden eras, but anyone paying attention can see they’re playing it safe. If they tread too lightly things could get a little boring.
Whats safe about PSVR2 games or Astro Bot or Rise of Ronin or Stellar Blade or Returnal etc?
 
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