UK CMA Says Microsoft-Activision Deal Will 'Not Result in a Substantial Lessening of Competition'

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When I was on resetera, I don't remember ever seeing that PlanetSmasher guy happy. He complained about anything and everything. Amazing that he's still the same. I often wondered if he ever even played games.
 

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Well it didn’t last long. He’s back to being an insufferable, miserable, depressing, jaded, crybaby. Complaining about everything in gaming and Sony.

That dudes post are annoying to read. Don’t know how he’s not banned for complaining so much.

He needs to seek help. Badly.
That guy its gonna go the suicide route sooner or later
 

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Shame but the deal being approved was always the most likely scenario. Sony took a barrage of bad press in exchange for a delayed deal. It also exposed Xbox and MS dirty tactics so now Sony should know who they are dealing with, things like that nonsense we saw with like them partnering with MS on cloud should never happen again. Xbox never had any intention of coexisting with PlayStation, all the moves they made like pushing for crossplay was just to further themselves in the expense of PlayStation.

Now it's up to Sony to outmanouver MS/Xbox but it won't be easy this time. A future where MS is the biggest player in the console industry is tragic and will probably kill the segment in favor of cloud/mobile/PC. Nintendo will be the next target if MS gets past Sony.
 
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I do realize that Sony can't, and won't, buy Take Two.

Now once YOU realize that.. and give up the fantasies... we can get back to the topic of this thread. :)
we all know you’re saying this in hopes it doesn’t happen but if can happen and you’ll see if it does.
 

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Sony just have to buy IPs and Publishers too. PS has decent relationships with the Japanese publishers so there is a start. Square is the minimum now.
For western Publishers/Studios. They just have to do make a deal like they done with Bungie. MS can offer more money to buy outright, but Sony buying them but allowing them freedom is something MS won’t do.
Now we see if Sony and Jim are smart enough to move fast before MS takes more Ips. Sad state of gaming.

People saying PS fans didnt want consolidation of the market but now are asking for it… Well what do you expect, sit back and let MS buy everyone? Yes we would like to go back to that world, but MS have bought studios and 2 major publishers. They won’t stop at that either
 
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Sony just have to buy IPs and Publishers too. PS has decent relationships with the Japanese publishers so there is a start. Square is the minimum now.
For western Publishers/Studios. They just have to do make a deal like they done with Bungie. MS can offer more money to buy outright, but Sony buying them but allowing them freedom is something MS won’t do.
Now we see if Sony and Jim are smart enough to move fast before MS takes more Ips. Sad state of gaming.

People saying PS fans didnt want consolidation of the market but now are asking for it… Well what do you expect, sit back and let MS buy everyone? Yes we would like to go back to that world, but MS have bought studios and 2 major publishers. They won’t stop at that either
Square is not in immediate danger of getting acquired by the American MS. Their big IP Final Fantasy is strongly associated with PS anyway. Square has no problem in continuing the partnership with Sony.

 
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Sony just have to buy IPs and Publishers too. PS has decent relationships with the Japanese publishers so there is a start. Square is the minimum now.
For western Publishers/Studios. They just have to do make a deal like they done with Bungie. MS can offer more money to buy outright, but Sony buying them but allowing them freedom is something MS won’t do.
Now we see if Sony and Jim are smart enough to move fast before MS takes more Ips. Sad state of gaming.

People saying PS fans didnt want consolidation of the market but now are asking for it… Well what do you expect, sit back and let MS buy everyone? Yes we would like to go back to that world, but MS have bought studios and 2 major publishers. They won’t stop at that either
Sony should at least get partial ownership of SE like in the past and steer them away from NFT. Leadership in SE has been laughable. Stakes might be all Sony needs when it comes to Japanese publublishers like SE and Capcom.
 
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You guys are still talking about SE, like any SE game can compare to COD exclusivity? The only comparable acquisition by Sony would be Epic or EA, and going by CMA's reasoning because Sony is the console market leader it would "lessen competition" while MS can acquire acti no problem.
 
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You guys are still talking about SE, like any SE game can compare to COD exclusivity? The only comparable acquisition by Sony would be Epic or EA, and going by CMA's reasoning because Sony is the console market leader it would "lessen competition" while MS can acquire acti no problem.
Exactly.. Sony can't buy Take Two.
 

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You guys are still talking about SE, like any SE game can compare to COD exclusivity? The only comparable acquisition by Sony would be Epic or EA, and going by CMA's reasoning because Sony is the console market leader it would "lessen competition" while MS can acquire acti no problem.
No game can compete with COD exclusivity. GTA might come close but they're not yearly releases.

Also, the Activision purchase brings Xbox on the same level as PS revenue wise. The argument of PS being ahead holds no water in an acquisition case from now on.

@Remij

People have asked you to substantiate your claim with arguments. Is this what most of your posts turn into?
 

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You guys are still talking about SE, like any SE game can compare to COD exclusivity? The only comparable acquisition by Sony would be Epic or EA, and going by CMA's reasoning because Sony is the console market leader it would "lessen competition" while MS can acquire acti no problem.
CoD going exclusive would have negligible effect, apparently. If we buy into that narrative, then there's no need to buy anything to counteract COD. Regardless of how you feel about it, there are good, strategic investments that will ensure PlayStation can continue to grow.

Either way, COD won't be made exclusive because Microsoft won't be allowed to acquire it. If anyone would like to quote me later once the CMA makes a decision, stick your neck out now and share your thoughts instead of hiding until there's a final outcome and crowing.
 

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You guys are still talking about SE, like any SE game can compare to COD exclusivity?

I gotta agree. Square is like a reply to Bethesda and not enough against something like Activison. They need something more. Something like CDPR, or some deals with Capcom, Fromsoft etc a couple or few smaller companies, rather than EA and Taketwo.

I don’t like all the acquisitions but Sony at this point has to do something unfortunately, and more than Square. As a fan, Id prefer the smaller deals like Bungie then EA etc

They already have some money in FromSoft and Epic, keep going that route.
Its a sad state for the video game industry altogether all of this tbh, thanks for MS…
 
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Stakes might be all Sony needs when it cokes to Japanese publishers like SE and Capcom.

Yep exactly.
They can’t match MS for money, but they can do enough with some companies to at least know they aren’t going lose more classic 3rd party IPs in the future.

Im pretty sure Bungie went with Sony instead of MS because Sony offered them some control, while MS probably wanted to buy them outright.

MS now has, Minecraft, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Doom, Quake, Crash Bandicoot, Candy Crush etc. And Call of Duty. These will keep them relevant for a long time even if they fuck up typical MS style. They have more staying power then ever before. Just by names Alone. Again even if they fuck up, eventually they will get some wins.
Does PS want to lose more IPs? Yes its totallt unfair, I hate it, but they have to retaliate Fast and hard. Square isn’t enough

I know everyone says gamers aren’t business minded and Sony execs or other employers know what they are doing, well.… Its time to show if they have the brains and fast enough to save other IP’s from leaving Playstation forever.

MS getting a few more publishers along with their IP’s, is gonna be bad news for PS. PS can make all the new IPs they want, but they will need to do alot more than they are currently doing. And it would be nice to keep some from going to MS.
 

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Square is not in immediate danger of getting acquired by the American MS. Their big IP Final Fantasy is strongly associated with PS anyway. Square has no problem in continuing the partnership with Sony.


Im not worried about Square tbh. Its the others. CDPR, Sega, Level 5, EA, Tecmo, Koei, Take two etc
Capcom, Konami and Namco aren’t going to MS but the others might do. And yes, some people aren’t fans of the above but they have plenty of fans and when you keep adding it up, its gonna be bad news for everyone else not MS.

Nintendo pretty dumb when it comes to these things. Right now they are on a roll now, but they are always one step away from having a Wii U, Gamecube or N64 generation. Below 35million units is kind of a failure and Nintendo hits that mark 3 out of 7 console generations. They aren’t as invincible as everyone thinks
 
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Exactly.. Sony can't buy Take Two.
Do you guys actually read anything you talk about? The CMA has literally said nothing like that, nothing about marketshare.

They said because of the updated Lifetime Values they received of PS to Xbox switchers, Microsoft would lose much more money than if they kept COD multiplatform. Therefore they concluded that they don't see Microsoft engaging in a foreclosure strategy.

The same argument and precedent will be applied in future cases
 

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People have asked you to substantiate your claim with arguments. Is this what most of your posts turn into?
Regulators will not allow Sony... the market leader, to purchase a company the size of Take Two.

And Sony can't afford to pay what Take Two would demand. Take Two does not want to be bought in the first place, unlike Activision ... which makes it a VERY different proposition entirely. Sony wont risk an acquisition knowing full well that it likely wouldn't pass regulatory scrutiny.

Japanese companies make far more sense, and are within reasonable price ranges, and are far more likely to pass.
 

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Do you guys actually read anything you talk about? The CMA has literally said nothing like that, nothing about marketshare.

They said because of the updated Lifetime Values they received of PS to Xbox switchers, Microsoft would lose much more money than if they kept COD multiplatform. Therefore they concluded that they don't see Microsoft engaging in a foreclosure strategy.

The same argument and precedent will be applied in future cases
lmfao... yea, they updated their info and found that what MS was saying from the start is true, and that making COD exclusive made no sense... despite Sony and their fanboys constantly claiming otherwise...

...and now we have those same people saying "well duh... but this doesn't mean anything"...

Let's put it this way... before the issue was the console and cloud markets... now the issue is just the cloud market.. and MS will address that, and largely already have.